Re: How Good was Lennox Lewis Really????
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Originally Posted by Mr140
Sorry but with that post Unit you going to get a sad click.
Why ??
Re: How Good was Lennox Lewis Really????
Come on ice do not think Lewis cant beat Rocky that is just stupidest thing i hav ever heard. I mean ice come on read that post lewis is not a 10 heavy please.
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And i did not mean everyone i ment me and i hardly ever give them. Sorry just the way i feel ice i am sorry if you disagree with me but thats how i fell about it.
Re: How Good was Lennox Lewis Really????
There is no way you can say L.Lewis is great. Ok, let’s break it down. Look at his biggest fights. Against an E.Holyfield (who was past his best) he couldn't even knock him down, never mind get him out of there in 24 rounds. Against M.Tyson (who was past his best) he took 8 rounds (M.Tyson didn't exactly frank the form by getting Koed in 4 rounds by D.Williams in his next fights), against F.Bruno he was getting outboxed before F.Bruno got caught. He was VERY lucky to get the decision against R.Mercer (who was past his best). The V.Klitschko fight was not a good way to bow out as champion and he could have got beat in that one. Sure, if his big right hand connected he looked impressive (R.Ruddock / A.Golota / M.Grant) but the biggest knocks against him were his knockout losses to H.Rahman and O.McCall.
These losses are his biggest knock; great fighters in there prime don't get beat by average fighters. Joe Frazier was only beaten twice in whole to career to M.Ali and G.Foreman. L.Holmes (In his prime)
was only beaten by M.Spinks and M.Tyson. M.Ali (In his prime) only lost to J.Frazier and K.Norton. S.Liston (In his prime) only lost to M.Ali. R.Marciano was unbeaten. Joe Louis (In his prime) was unbeatable. George Foreman (In his prime) only lost to Ali, yeah he got beaten by Jimmy Young but he said he feel out of love with boxing after his night in Africa with M.Ali and G.Foreman showed how great M.Ali must have been for him to win the world title (when he was past his best) when he was 45.
I would put L.Lewis on him the same level as the mid 80s heavyweights of T.Witherspoon, M.Dokes, T.Berbick, P.Thomas.
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Re: How Good was Lennox Lewis Really????
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
I have always been a fan of Lennox. IMO he could have been champion in any era he was that good. I also believe that when in proper shape ( I say that because we all know Lennox had a habit of looking past guys and coming in out of shape a bit) he had the ability to stand in with any greats of the past and if judging by prime vs prime at peak shape he would have beaten most of them...
IMO Lewis beats Patterson, Liston, Frazier, Marciano, Holmes all in prime....His biggest opp would have been Louis, Ali, Foreman and a prime Tyson....
Lewis has wins over every top HW in his era and avenged both losses in fantastic fashion, Both losses were flukes IMO as well more due to Lennox looking past his guy then anything...
With HW boxing being what it is I have just been thinking about this lately and how you don't realize how much you appreciate a fighter until he is gone. Lewi8s left no doubt who the REAL HW champion was and who the best in the division was....
I think Lewis was always under appreciated as a champion and will go down in history pretty much as Holmes where it is not until long after his retirement do the critics and fans start to mention him as one of the ATG and compare guys to him...
Just curious on everyone's opp of him as a fighter
Lennox was the sh*t,he had it all and equalized any defeat in his career in style.
Wicked jab,right cross and a thumping uppercut.
Proper Champion who is sorely missed.
Re: How Good was Lennox Lewis Really????
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
You know what ICB...I was never a Lewis fan until he retired...after that is when I began to really appreciate him and with the crop of HWTs seemingly in chaos after he left "or should I say after Vitaly left because for the little time Vitaly was here there were no doubts who was the best out there"....I like his fights when he was still fighting but it was when he retired I realized like many others exactly how good he was....
I agree his chin was underrated....People tend to forget he got caught with thunderous punches by 2 VERY BIG punchers in their primes....Both McCall and Rahman at their best could bang with the best of them...add that to the poor shape Lewis allowed himself to come in at for those fights and it is easy to see why he was KO'd......But then again Lewis made it a point to avenge both losses and show everyone that those guys were fly by night fighters who had their moment of glory but he was the one who decided how long that moment would last....
Like I said he was one of those that are missed the longer he is gone....
:coolclick: Not sure if I responded on this thread or not...but whether I did or did not...this is a good post that I totally agree with...pretty much.
Honestly...I can't understand why people didn't like Lewis.
They sure as shit missed him after he was gone...the same can be said of Vitali.
Lewis, Vitali, & Kirk Johnson (go ahead & laugh ;D ...I do...every time I say it) oddly enough were all my favorites during their time. I would have loved to seen them in with some of the currents right now...total blood baths.
Re: How Good was Lennox Lewis Really????
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
You know what ICB...I was never a Lewis fan until he retired...after that is when I began to really appreciate him and with the crop of HWTs seemingly in chaos after he left "or should I say after Vitaly left because for the little time Vitaly was here there were no doubts who was the best out there"....I like his fights when he was still fighting but it was when he retired I realized like many others exactly how good he was....
I agree his chin was underrated....People tend to forget he got caught with thunderous punches by 2 VERY BIG punchers in their primes....Both McCall and Rahman at their best could bang with the best of them...add that to the poor shape Lewis allowed himself to come in at for those fights and it is easy to see why he was KO'd......But then again Lewis made it a point to avenge both losses and show everyone that those guys were fly by night fighters who had their moment of glory but he was the one who decided how long that moment would last....
Like I said he was one of those that are missed the longer he is gone....
:coolclick: Not sure if I responded on this thread or not...but whether I did or did not...this is a good post that I totally agree with...pretty much.
Honestly...I can't understand why people didn't like Lewis.
They sure as S*** missed him after he was gone...the same can be said of Vitali.
Lewis, Vitali, & Kirk Johnson (go ahead & laugh ;D ...I do...every time I say it) oddly enough were all my favorites during their time. I would have loved to seen them in with some of the currents right now...total blood baths.
CC back at ya Wack....TBH I can't laugh at the Kirk Johnson comment, He was a guy I thought was going to make some big noise....Then he got fat and lazy....I was a fan of his up until the DQ loss to Ruiz...Then he just went down the tubes :-\ He had the goods but?...The once Vitaly starched him I think any hopes of getting back on track went out the window.....
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lennox was a good boxer... sometimes-THATS IT.
Quit with all this shittalk about being a great.
He beat tyson-so did danny williams and kevin mcbride-we can forget that-that wasnt tyson.
In my opinion the 2 fights against holyfield were lewis's finest moments-and i taught they were very evenly matched.
Also lennox lost 2 hasim rahman,and was very very lucky klitcko's face cut up.
LENNOX LEWIS IS IN SAME LEAGUE AS RIDDICK BOWE-GOOD CONTENDERS,POOR CHAMPIONS-DEFINETLY NO GREAT!!!!
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Originally Posted by knocbree
lennox was a good boxer... sometimes-THATS IT.
Quit with all this shittalk about being a great.
He beat tyson-so did danny williams and kevin mcbride-we can forget that-that wasnt tyson.
In my opinion the 2 fights against holyfield were lewis's finest moments-and i taught they were very evenly matched.
Also lennox lost 2 hasim rahman,and was very very lucky klitcko's face cut up.
LENNOX LEWIS IS IN SAME LEAGUE AS RIDDICK BOWE-GOOD CONTENDERS,POOR CHAMPIONS-DEFINETLY NO GREAT!!!!
He has a great resume...He was dominate in one of the best era's for HW boxing the 90's...His resume is a who's who of that era...He has wins over more quality opp then TYSO even when he was as you put it TYSON....He was robbed in the first Holyfield fight....There was nothing Lucky about the cut over VK's eye...explain excatly how that was luck?....the loss to Rahman was an out of shape Lewis who had not traied for 3 weeks before the fight to shoot a scene in Oceans 11....He dominated him in the rematch without resistance...at the time Rahman was one of the biggest punchers in the division...To use McBride and Williams as comparisons against Lewis win over Tyson makes you sound like an ass
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Oh comon people, are some of you high on drugs or something. That was not the real Tyson fighting Lewis, it was a mockery version and Lewis still took 8 rounds to beat him. Tyson in his prime was explosive like dynamyte, Lewis would have been destroyed, i dont care what anybody says, Lewis would never beat a prime Tyson, Never Ever!
Re: How Good was Lennox Lewis Really????
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Originally Posted by TheT-Unit
Oh comon people, are some of you high on drugs or something. That was not the real Tyson fighting Lewis, it was a mockery version and Lewis still took 8 rounds to beat him. Tyson in his prime was explosive like dynamyte, Lewis would have been destroyed, i dont care what anybody says, Lewis would never beat a prime Tyson, Never Ever!
I think your the one who is high.
Re: How Good was Lennox Lewis Really????
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Originally Posted by fugaziuk
I used to love watching lennox fight and thought he was a great champ - but beating Marciano? come on guys :o
He would have beaten Marciano. Marciano was too small to be effective against Lennox. The jab and ring generalship of Lennox would have controlled the fight and I really can't see the Rock getting out of the way of those right hands and uppercuts.
Re: How Good was Lennox Lewis Really????
he is in the top 10 of all time great heavyweights
Re: How Good was Lennox Lewis Really????
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Originally Posted by TheT-Unit
Oh comon people, are some of you high on drugs or something. That was not the real Tyson fighting Lewis, it was a mockery version and Lewis still took 8 rounds to beat him. Tyson in his prime was explosive like dynamyte, Lewis would have been destroyed, i dont care what anybody says, Lewis would never beat a prime Tyson, Never Ever!
Either you and KnocBree are the same person or we have 2 idiots with in an hour apart of each other...Because both stressed the Tyson Issue....BTW anyone who spells Come on or C'Mon "CoMon" Dynamite "dynamyte" should not be asking who the high one is :-\
