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Holyfield is a freak, he fought better when he was heavyweight champion the first time but had to bulk up to fight the bigger heavyweights which resulted in him being slower and punching less.
Crisanto Espana was unheard of fighter and was not the favourite. He retired mysteriously quickly.
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I will agree on one hing you said and that is Tyson threw away some important years spending time in prison but on the other hand.
Golota wis still in his prime, So was Botha and most the others. Tyson also never fought Akinwande, he was also around long enough to fight Morrison and Mercer.
I was a fan of Mike Tysons but when speaking reality Lennox has the better Resume, I also believe that Lewis posessed just as much 1 punch power if not more then Tyson
Lennox had a longer career at the top, after jail he was never the same, maybe after the first deafeat, hell maybe after Rooney left him. Yet Tyson was a force of nature and that Tyson that beat Berbick et al would have beaten Lennox, who was cautious by nature and would not have been offensively minded if he ever fought that Tyson. Lennox was holding like an octopus when he fought an old weary spliff smoking overweight version of Tyson in that first round.
Get out of the dream world Lennox could of ended tyson at any time. And Lennox would beat Tyson no matter when they fought and it is simple Lewis power and jab would end Tyson with out a doubt all my money on Lewis.
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Originally Posted by Master
I can see that you are one of those Tyson worshippers that will make any excuse in the world be it against Lennox Lewis or any other fighter. Just the fact you bring up Kevin Rooney gives it all away.
I hate to burst your bubble but as far as stepping into the ring goes Tyson already had the skills. When he left Rooney he did not need to be taught how to fight. He choose to go another way and that is his fault no one elses. Do not try to dis-credit other fighters accomplishments for Tysons screw ups.
Lennox Lewis was no Trevor Berbick, by time Lewis hit 34yrs old he had become a MASTER ( no pun intended) boxer with incredible power. Who has the best resume of wins of any heavyweight champion of the last 20 years hands down.
The reasons you are giving sound like a cop out for not being able to back up your arguement
Amateurs and pros are totally different Bowe hit Lewis with some good shots in first round which should of been standing 8 count for Lewis atleast twice imo Bowe was not hurt by the right hand he was stopped with and could of easily go on i think Bowe could of took the young wild Lewis.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Amateurs and pros are completely different that much is true...Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
However the amateurs is a solid foundation upon which the pro-structure is built. Lewis showed an ability to read Bowe and dismantle his offence in that fight.
The first round rarely contains eight counts-particularily in the Olympics, it is usually in the second or third the referee initiates warnings and penalties.
Furthermore as an amateur yourself you no that the referee does not ajudicate as a pro referee does and checks how the fighter is feeling. If a amateur boxer is being comprohensively outboxed and eating big punches (particularily at heavy+) the fight will be stopped.
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
you ,me and more importantly riddick bowe agreed...that trash can b.s. said it all he wanted no part of lewis
I actually was quite fond of Bowe and i liked him, but as i said, i think lewis was all wrong for him, lewis was just Bowe's nightmare of a fighter and of all the eras that have ever been in boxing they had to be in the same one!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
bowe was a terrific fighter, eddie futch was a great trainer and wise man. but like you say .. some people just got your number.. and lewis had bowe‘s ,, and bowe knew it..Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
lewis broke bowe down in the olympics, got into bowe’s psychosomatic being . When a fighter has been beat fair and sound that lingers in the mind and not easily erased. bowe would have been at a huge disadvantage had they met again even though bowe was much improved technically
I agree, if you take the time to examine any of Lewis autobiographies you'll find that the animosity between Lewis and Bowe was largely controlled by Lewis.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Almost like their fight Bowe was the aggresor attempting to intimidate Lewis and force his psychological will upon him. However, from an early age Lewis had a strong grasp of the mindgames concept and he wa neutral, mute yet full of confidence.
Bowe was no doubt puzzled by this reaction and it may have bothered him in the run up to the Olympic final.
When it was all done and they were on the podium, Bowe changed tact and asked Lennox could he stand beside him on the top of the award podium. Lewis said "no, i earned this."
Apparently Bowe then snarled, "see you in the pros," and Lennox smiled at him.