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Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Mayweather vs Hatton
Voted Hatton to shock the world, CC for the RbR Wack.
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Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Mayweather vs Hatton
People thought taylor was to fast and to skilled for pavlik - Taylor has serious stamina issues that have been prevelant for a long time
People thought mosely was to fast and to skilled for cotto- A 34 year old Mosely was begining to show signs of age and fought Cottos fight, played to the crowd which he shouldnt have done
Fact- Mayweather is at his peak, has no issues with stamina and always fights the way he wants to you wont see him going toe to toe because the crowd want it he doesnt put entertainment before his boxing which is the way it should be.
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Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Mayweather vs Hatton
I voted Hatton to win and shock the world.
Not really the smart choice, and if there was money on it I probably wouldn't bet the same way.
I just really want him to do it.
All of these picks from the heart, rather than the head, are why I rarely ever predict a fight correctly. I'm always one for the underdog.
Is anyone that has posted in the RBR actually going to the fight?
Great analysis by the way. Another excellent round by round. There should be more than 20 pages of banter by the time the fight comes around. Is it really only 12 days away?
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Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Mayweather vs Hatton
ye bwoy 12 days to go hopefully sky ll get there asses round my house n sort out the box otherwise im screwed might have to go sprawling the streets lookin for somewhere to watch it
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Voted Hatton to shock the world, CC for the RbR Wack.
Nice avatar message Donny....remind Wack how important it is that he sticks around other we'll never find someone who drinks as much and watches as much boxing as him.
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Come December the 2nd, 2007...Christmas comes early…& HBO’s dropping a package down out chimney that will most likely be talked about long into the New Year…
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Hey, Wacko ... what fight you watching on the 2 of Dec?
I would dearly love to see Floyd win by stoppage but that's too much to ask for. I voted with my head this time ... Floyd decision.
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Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Mayweather vs Hatton
Got it ... it's the 24/7 ...
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Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Mayweather vs Hatton
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Finally...after all these years...it's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds featuring the highly anticipated & overly salivated match up between "Pretty Bwoy" Floyd Mayweather & Ricky "the Hitman" Hatton.
As far as boxing goes…this year has been one of the best years of the past decade for boxing enthusiasts who share a love of all weight classes.
From Bantamweight to Light Heavyweight all of the marquee names have been fighting each other & boxing has seen a resurgence of phenomenal proportions…maybe not in comparison to boxing’s glory days…but 2007 has definitely been the shot in the arm the sport has needed.
In Wacko’s humble opinion, 2007 has been the best year in boxing since I’ve been a boxing fan…& ole’ Wacko’s been a boxing fan for the better part of the 36 years that the earth has graced him with air to breath & alcohol to chug.
This year we’ve had more upsets, more gusty performances, more shocks, more surprises, & more fighters rising to the occasion than you can shake a stick at.
Champions were matched against contenders & contenders won! Up & coming prospects rumbled with journeymen & journeymen shocked us! Champions punctuated questionable careers with exclamation marks! Prospects became Super Stars! Veterans proved their worth!
All in all…our fighters went to war to bring us some of the more compelling bouts of the decade…& in the end…that’s what we’ve all been crying for from our boxers…boxing at it’s best.
That my friends is what 2007 has been about in a nutshell…
BOXING AT IT’S BEST!!!
This being the last month of the year…you would think that a lull was on the horizon…not true. As fans we ask…no we demand that they bring their best…that we get what we all struggle to pay for…more bang for our buck…& if possible…if it’s not to much to ask…how about the greatest fight that we’ve ever seen. At least a fight worth $49.95.
Come December the 2nd, 2007...Christmas comes early…& HBO’s dropping a package down out chimney that will most likely be talked about long into the New Year…
While it won’t be a gift delivered by a jolly ole’ fat man & reindeer with a glowing red noses…it will be one hell of a bundle that’ll be bringing loads of joy to us bwoys & girls!
Finally…we’ll all get one of our greatest wishes gift wrapped (minus the bow) in all it’s glory & another mess of questions answered! Previous history will become validated…some facts will become fiction…but all questions will be answered regarding arguably two of the greatest figures of our generations boxing roster.
This December…once again…we will all be treated to that which we desire the most…
TWO WORLD CHAMPIONS GOING TOE TO TOE!!!
It gives me great pleasure to toss out the banter & state that once again…it’s fight night...& that inturn means...that once again it's time for another installment of Wacko’s Drunken Round by Round.
Before we get started…I want to clear something up…while I like to consider myself a die hard boxing fan…I only know what I know. I have no shame in admitting that…probably half of what I know…I actually don’t know…but I will do my damned best, as always, to give you the most accurate assessment of the combatants involved in this match up as unabashedly unbiased as I can.
That being said…let’s talk about the game, shall we?
“Pretty Boy” Floyd Mayweather jr vs. Ricky “the Hitman” Hatton.
HBO has dubbed this bout simple & to the point…”UNDEFEATED”.
While that may seem weak to most…that’s damned dead on the money in Wacko’s book. Both men have a hell of a lot more to lose than just a goose egg, though.
Outside of his record, Ricky Hatton (43 fights with 31 ko‘s & no losses) has a lot riding on this win. Hatton is a British icon…a staple in the book of what it is to be a “good ole‘ bwoy”, he’s the poster boy of what most Brits strive to be…in truth he’s the picture of what every one wants to be…he’s respected, loved, & revered in his hometown & amongst his fans. In the ring Hatton is known as being a banger…a body bruiser & someone that would die on the mat for the win…he’s the latest incarnation of Gatti & the fans love him.
Floyd Mayweather jr (38 fights with 24 ko‘s & no defeats) is basically the polar opposite. For Floyd…it’s all about the record, where he is, where he will be, what he is & shall be, & how much money he‘s gonna bank along the way. Floyd is loved neither inside the square circle outside of it…but he is respected by anyone & everyone that knows their boxing game. That hasn’t earned him many…if any fans…but it has gotten him paid & that seems to be all that there is to Floyd Mayweather jr.
Enter the Match :
The bout sold out in something like 3 minutes & then broke all closed circuit records sold! I aint even sure that there’s any standing room left in the nose bleeds. That’s insane fellars…now I realize that Hatton puts asses in many a seats on your side of the pond…but over here…he doesn‘t…not on his lonesome.
This fight is a testament to the greatness of both fighters & their fans.
First & foremost…the facts:
Fact #1: This fight is a battle of the undefeateds.
Fact #2: No if’s, ands, or buts…it’s going to be one for the ages.
Fact #3: This will be the tuffest test to date for either man.
Fact #4: Each fighter has constantly been scrutinized throughout his career…that will end tonight…win, lose, or draw.
Fact #5: A dominate loss could be devastating for either man’s career…more so for Floyd’s.
Fact #6: This will be the biggest match-up of two undefeated welterweights since Oscar de la Hoya and Felix Trinidad.
While there are many more facts to discuss…those are the ones that matter the most to me. We could go on & on & on all night long…but we still have the factors to cover…so I’ll let you all squabble & mull the facts over…while I move along to what I have affectionately dubbed… “the Wackster’s Factors of the Fight”!
Factors for & against Floyd Mayweather jr.
Factor 1: Speed & abilities. No one’s faster at 147lbs…no one…& no ones got the skills that Floyd has. There are so many factors that can be argued in this bout…but one thing is for sure…if Floyd can handle Hatton’s pressure…there’s now way that Hatton can handle Floyd’s speed & mastering of the defensive arts. Floyd will most likely allow himself to be pushed to the ropes throughout the fight. This is where Mayweather does his best work. Shoulder rolls, forearms to the chest, dips, & then uppercuts & hooks in bundles. In the end...I think that Hatton will fair well...but down the stretch...he will be shocked. Factor in Floyd’s favor.
Factor 2: Power. Definitely not something I’d pin on Floyd as an advantage. He’s accurate & has accumulative power…but honestly…I think that against Hatton all he’ll have out of those two options will be accuracy. I aint so sure that Floyd get’s to accumulate his shots as often as he has in the past. The constant pressure of Hatton will be a factor that I think disrupts Floyd’s accuracy a slight bit & thus effects his accumulation…thus negating his power. Factor in Hatton’s favor.
Factor 3: Abilities. Hands down…Floyd has the upper hand here. No need in going over every trick in Floyd's bag...we know what they are & how they work. Factor in Floyd’s favor.
Factor 4: Defense. Again…hands down…Floyd has this one in the bag. This is going to be a bigger factor than his speed & basic over all abilities. I think that Hatton will be damned effective backing Floyd up...but everyone knows that Floyd does well on the back foot & he's going to just shell up on the ropes like he did against Oscar & counter in when Hatton shifts gears...& Hatton will have to shift gears against Floyd. One speed will not do it. Factor in Floyd’s favor.
Factor 5: Chin. This is defiantly something that I think Floyd has an ample amount of that’s going to factor into the bout towards the latter rounds…as it always does. Floyd will let Hatton unload…maybe to the point of him edging ahead on the cards…but I believe he will play possum & hold his best S*** for the end of the bout. Factor in Floyd’s favor.
Factors for & against Ricky “the Hitman” Hatton.
Factor 1: Speed & abilities. While Hatton’s fast & does have a decent repertoire of punches & combinations…he’s got nothing on Floyd’s arsenal. I completely write Hatton off on this one. Floyd get’s this one hands down. Factor in Floyd’s favor.
Factor 2: Power & pressure. While I give Floyd the upper hand in many things…& while I honestly see Floyd as the superior fighter…this is where they differ. Floyd usually does really well with pressure fighters…but Hatton’s going to be different I think. Honestly…with what’s riding on the table…I believe that Floyd will bring out a side in Hatton that none of us have ever seen. I think Hatton will blaze out against Floyd in the first round & roll out each round the same way that he does the first…nonstop & ruff as hell. He’ll hit Floyd in the ribs, the chin, the cheeks, the hips, & probably the balls. I think that Hatton’s going to hammer Floyd like a nail (see Factor #2 above for Floyd) all night long. I’m just not sure that Floyd will be able to take it for the full 12 rounds unless he totally utilizes his defense & counters Hatton in between blasts. Definitely a factor in Hatton’s favor.
Factor 3: Defense. Honestly…I think that Hatton’s an open book to someone like Floyd. Against Kostya, Collazo, & Urango Hatton was a punching bag…no other way to call it. Watch those bouts again & picture someone with three times the speed & skills of all those fellars…if Floyd is game…Hatton’s fwocked. Factor in Floyd’s favor.
Factor 4: Stamina. Not sure…but I’m gonna lean towards Floyd. Against Collazo & Urango Hatton had issues. The weight seemed to really bother him against the skilled & able Collazo…I honestly can’t see him fairing better against Floyd unless of course…dancing with all those stars…turned Floyd soft in the end. Tuff call…honestly…I’ll just have to wait till the 4th round or so.
Factor 5: Chin. Not sure here...but I honestly have to believe that Hatton's got a solid noggin. Even up.
So there there it be me bwoyo’s…my thoughts hammered out in ink…as unbiased as I can be concerning a bout with my most favorite fighter of all time…all that devotion & dedication pushed aside just for you…to rip apart, mutilate, dissect, & discredit as I know you all will…this being the fight of the decade…this being such a diverse forum…I know you’ll all be screaming to the tops of your lungs for your favorite fighter.
By all means…let it all hang out with yer wangs out!!!
Now…with all that horse sheet outta the way…let’s get it on!!!
Toss the remote, settle in on the couch, pop the tops on your favorite brew...or pour up your poison of choice...bust open that bag & let’s break out the chips & salsa…it’s fight night!!!
Cheers bitches…oh…& koneecheewah.
:coolclick: 3321 Wacko. You sure know how to set 'em up. I think many underestimate Ricky's skill. One thing about Hatton I like is his ability to pick punches. He sees openings you wouldn't see. The way he opened up Castillo for that body shot was clever. He really thinks in there, and it's something I bet Floyd hasn't considered. I think the constant pressure of punches will hurt Floyd down the stretch, and I'm going for an 11th round TKO for my boy. That of course is against my better judgement. There are times were you have to stick through your fighter through thick & thin. I've never doubted Hatton before, I'm not about to start doing that now.
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Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Mayweather vs Hatton
Same here Bz....Got his back all the way.
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Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Mayweather vs Hatton
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Even if Hatton fights 3x better than he did against Tszyu he will still struggle simply due to the fact that most of the guys he has faced have been stationary targets with limited footwork i really cant understand why he fought Castillo as a tune up, Paulie or Judah would have surley been much more suited to the task.
this is the biggest load of shit i have actually heard. just read it and think to yourself do you actually know anyting about the 140 or 147 devision? Castillo was the top man apart from Hatton to beat at 140 and hatton stopped him in 4. How is fighting Judah at 147 going to do much? it wouldnt prove anything, Judah is on a bad losing streak and he would get beaten by Ricky. PM would also be outworked by Hatton, he needs to get some expereince at the top and get some decent names on his record before he even gets considered to fight the best at 140. But i believe Hatton doesnt even have to get to 140 now, because he has done the right thing and showed us all he has bottle and wants the best and he will stay at 147 now and fight the best.
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this is the biggest load of S*** i have actually heard. just read it and think to yourself do you actually know anyting about the 140 or 147 devision? Castillo was the top man apart from Hatton to beat at 140 and hatton stopped him in 4.
I think we should be asking you the same question on Knowledge dude. Castilo was only at his 2nd fight at 140 when he got beat by Mr Hatton, not to mention Castilo got a gift in his 1st fight at 140 against Herman Nogoujo on the Hatton Urango undercard. Castillo was a top dog at 135 ;)
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PM would also be outworked by Hatton, he needs to get some expereince at the top and get some decent names on his record before he even gets considered to fight the best at 140.
Malignaggi has proved that he is a top 140 fighter. who do you suggest he fight to prove his meddle?
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But i believe Hatton doesnt even have to get to 140 now, because he has done the right thing and showed us all he has bottle and wants the best and he will stay at 147 now and fight the best.
I doubt it, if Mayweather hands him his azzz on December 8th you will see him unceremoniously retreat back to 140 like he did after Collazzo.
All the big names at 147 would crush Hatton. Citron, Williams, Mosely, Cotto, Margarito, Clottey would put a hurtin on him
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this is the biggest load of S*** i have actually heard. just read it and think to yourself do you actually know anyting about the 140 or 147 devision? Castillo was the top man apart from Hatton to beat at 140 and hatton stopped him in 4.
I think we should be asking you the same question on Knowledge dude. Castilo was only at his 2nd fight at 140 when he got beat by Mr Hatton, not to mention Castilo got a gift in his 1st fight at 140 against Herman Nogoujo on the Hatton Urango undercard. Castillo was a top dog at 135 ;)
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PM would also be outworked by Hatton, he needs to get some expereince at the top and get some decent names on his record before he even gets considered to fight the best at 140.
Malignaggi has proved that he is a top 140 fighter. who do you suggest he fight to prove his meddle?
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But i believe Hatton doesnt even have to get to 140 now, because he has done the right thing and showed us all he has bottle and wants the best and he will stay at 147 now and fight the best.
I doubt it, if Mayweather hands him his azzz on December 8th you will see him unceremoniously retreat back to 140 like he did after Collazzo.
All the big names at 147 would crush Hatton. Citron, Williams, Mosely, Cotto, Margarito, Clottey would put a hurtin on him
I agree with all that you said, JT...
Hatton does not carry 147 well. I love Hatton but he has no business at 47. Hatton is a hit and hold kinda guy but does it affectivly at 140. At 47 its more of a rest. He doesn't move as well and tires faster.
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Even if Hatton fights 3x better than he did against Tszyu he will still struggle simply due to the fact that most of the guys he has faced have been stationary targets with limited footwork i really cant understand why he fought Castillo as a tune up, Paulie or Judah would have surley been much more suited to the task.
this is the biggest load of S*** i have actually heard. just read it and think to yourself do you actually know anyting about the 140 or 147 devision? Castillo was the top man apart from Hatton to beat at 140 and hatton stopped him in 4. How is fighting Judah at 147 going to do much? it wouldnt prove anything, Judah is on a bad losing streak and he would get beaten by Ricky. PM would also be outworked by Hatton, he needs to get some expereince at the top and get some decent names on his record before he even gets considered to fight the best at 140. But i believe Hatton doesnt even have to get to 140 now, because he has done the right thing and showed us all he has bottle and wants the best and he will stay at 147 now and fight the best.
What do you mean Castillo poses no remebelence to Floyd at all, fighting Judah or Paulie would have got him better adjusted to guys with speed and decent movement i dont understand how you can say what i said is a load of shit. No way was Castillo 2nd best 140 fighter he came from 135 and struggled. I never said Judah or Paulie would have beat Hatton i said as a tune up they would have better prepared him for the fight.
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this is the biggest load of S*** i have actually heard. just read it and think to yourself do you actually know anyting about the 140 or 147 devision? Castillo was the top man apart from Hatton to beat at 140 and hatton stopped him in 4.
I think we should be asking you the same question on Knowledge dude. Castilo was only at his 2nd fight at 140 when he got beat by Mr Hatton, not to mention Castilo got a gift in his 1st fight at 140 against Herman Nogoujo on the Hatton Urango undercard. Castillo was a top dog at 135 ;)
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PM would also be outworked by Hatton, he needs to get some expereince at the top and get some decent names on his record before he even gets considered to fight the best at 140.
Malignaggi has proved that he is a top 140 fighter. who do you suggest he fight to prove his meddle?
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But i believe Hatton doesnt even have to get to 140 now, because he has done the right thing and showed us all he has bottle and wants the best and he will stay at 147 now and fight the best.
I doubt it, if Mayweather hands him his azzz on December 8th you will see him unceremoniously retreat back to 140 like he did after Collazzo.
All the big names at 147 would crush Hatton. Citron, Williams, Mosely, Cotto, Margarito, Clottey would put a hurtin on him
To be honest most people thought that hatton would get crused by castillo because of his last outing with Urango, proved them wrong.I personally believe that Castillo has more of a name than PM at 140 although he only did have the one fight before that, Hatton needs legacy not up comers like PM.
As for PM he hasnt really beaten any big names at 140, he needs to fight the up comers and fight and beat Witter to get the status of the man to beat at 140 IMO, untill then he could is still just an upcomer himself, although i do favour him to be the best at 140 in the future.
To be honest with you JT FM isnt going to do a number on him like your claiming him to. Its going to be a highly competative fight, and Hatton had factors against him for the LC fight which I believe did effect the result. There are no excuses for Ricky in this one and we have all seen that he wants this one more than any other fight, we will see Hatton in his best ever outing win or lose on the 8th dec, mark my words. As for the LC his name wasnt much of a threat, hence why Hatton wasnt up for it, with Mayweather this is totally different fight.
Hatton has more than a chance that you are putting out, trust me!
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Even if Hatton fights 3x better than he did against Tszyu he will still struggle simply due to the fact that most of the guys he has faced have been stationary targets with limited footwork i really cant understand why he fought Castillo as a tune up, Paulie or Judah would have surley been much more suited to the task.
this is the biggest load of S*** i have actually heard. just read it and think to yourself do you actually know anyting about the 140 or 147 devision? Castillo was the top man apart from Hatton to beat at 140 and hatton stopped him in 4. How is fighting Judah at 147 going to do much? it wouldnt prove anything, Judah is on a bad losing streak and he would get beaten by Ricky. PM would also be outworked by Hatton, he needs to get some expereince at the top and get some decent names on his record before he even gets considered to fight the best at 140. But i believe Hatton doesnt even have to get to 140 now, because he has done the right thing and showed us all he has bottle and wants the best and he will stay at 147 now and fight the best.
What do you mean Castillo poses no remebelence to Floyd at all, fighting Judah or Paulie would have got him better adjusted to guys with speed and decent movement i dont understand how you can say what i said is a load of S***. No way was Castillo 2nd best 140 fighter he came from 135 and struggled. I never said Judah or Paulie would have beat Hatton i said as a tune up they would have better prepared him for the fight.
Castillo has a more of a name than PM or ZJ. Judah was on a bad losing streak and PM is a nobody at this stage of hattons carrer. The Castillo fight had to happen and it happend at a good time for Ricky because he proved yet again he is the best at 140. When you look at the devision i actually still do believe that Castillo even after the Hatton loss is still ranked 2nd and i would favour him to beat anybody at 140. Even PM or Witter. I just dont see how you can come out with a statement that even if he tryed x3 as hard as he did against tszyu he would still struggle, realistically he would stop him in the first round if he tryed that hard.
My point is this, how can a fighter of Ricky Hattons class who is a 2-weight world champion 43-0 be looked over and FM is greatly underestimating him, it just doest make sense at all. Hatton has this burning desire to win this fight, this is something that FM is lacking. Im scared for FM in this respect because RH is going to be the hardest fight of his carrer so far, and if he takes his foot of the gas remotly he is getting KTFO!!!!
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i understand where your coming from Tam but i was talking about preperation wise rather than legacy/popularity wise when saying he should have fought PM and Judah.
As for underestimating i think both guys know what eachother bring and both guys will be worried by what each man has. Only when they step in the ring with eachother will they know just how much s**t they have got themselves into.
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Even if Hatton fights 3x better than he did against Tszyu he will still struggle simply due to the fact that most of the guys he has faced have been stationary targets with limited footwork i really cant understand why he fought Castillo as a tune up, Paulie or Judah would have surley been much more suited to the task.
this is the biggest load of S*** i have actually heard. just read it and think to yourself do you actually know anyting about the 140 or 147 devision? Castillo was the top man apart from Hatton to beat at 140 and hatton stopped him in 4. How is fighting Judah at 147 going to do much? it wouldnt prove anything, Judah is on a bad losing streak and he would get beaten by Ricky. PM would also be outworked by Hatton, he needs to get some expereince at the top and get some decent names on his record before he even gets considered to fight the best at 140. But i believe Hatton doesnt even have to get to 140 now, because he has done the right thing and showed us all he has bottle and wants the best and he will stay at 147 now and fight the best.
What do you mean Castillo poses no remebelence to Floyd at all, fighting Judah or Paulie would have got him better adjusted to guys with speed and decent movement i dont understand how you can say what i said is a load of S***. No way was Castillo 2nd best 140 fighter he came from 135 and struggled. I never said Judah or Paulie would have beat Hatton i said as a tune up they would have better prepared him for the fight.
Castillo has a more of a name than PM or ZJ. Judah was on a bad losing streak and PM is a nobody at this stage of hattons carrer. The Castillo fight had to happen and it happend at a good time for Ricky because he proved yet again he is the best at 140. When you look at the devision i actually still do believe that Castillo even after the Hatton loss is still ranked 2nd and i would favour him to beat anybody at 140. Even PM or Witter. I just dont see how you can come out with a statement that even if he tryed x3 as hard as he did against tszyu he would still struggle, realistically he would stop him in the first round if he tryed that hard.
My point is this, how can a fighter of Ricky Hattons class who is a 2-weight world champion 43-0 be looked over and FM is greatly underestimating him, it just doest make sense at all. Hatton has this burning desire to win this fight, this is something that FM is lacking. Im scared for FM in this respect because RH is going to be the hardest fight of his carrer so far, and if he takes his foot of the gas remotly he is getting KTFO!!!!
Oh I'll go out on a limb and say Floyd has a huge burning desire to beat Ricky. I think he really hates Hatton and if you think he wants the end of his career to have a loss on it from Hatton you're crazy. I think Floyd really does believe Hatton will be a cinch to beat, but he'll be prepared and no doubt he'll have a desire to get Ricky out of there in decisive fashion. Calling Ricky a d class amateur wrestler seems indicative to me his disdain of Hatton and he'll want to back up those words and be the great eraser come the 8th. With that said I hope Hatton k.o.'s him.
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Re: It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Mayweather vs Hatton
24/7 is on right now...everybody @ Hatton's family's house are all sittin' round the table get snockered as fwock!!!
Hell yeah!!! That's what I'm tawkin bout!
Ima change my pick now...Hatton by TKO...but only if I can fly back & get plastered with his grannie! :P
Such a shame to see such a good ole' chap gonna get smoked.
Floyd Mayweather jr. with another career defining win.
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I will not change my bet and will never be. I will be cheering for Hatton come December 8.
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Originally Posted by ACEA
Even if Hatton fights 3x better than he did against Tszyu he will still struggle simply due to the fact that most of the guys he has faced have been stationary targets with limited footwork i really cant understand why he fought Castillo as a tune up, Paulie or Judah would have surley been much more suited to the task.
this is the biggest load of S*** i have actually heard. just read it and think to yourself do you actually know anyting about the 140 or 147 devision? Castillo was the top man apart from Hatton to beat at 140 and hatton stopped him in 4. How is fighting Judah at 147 going to do much? it wouldnt prove anything, Judah is on a bad losing streak and he would get beaten by Ricky. PM would also be outworked by Hatton, he needs to get some expereince at the top and get some decent names on his record before he even gets considered to fight the best at 140. But i believe Hatton doesnt even have to get to 140 now, because he has done the right thing and showed us all he has bottle and wants the best and he will stay at 147 now and fight the best.
What do you mean Castillo poses no remebelence to Floyd at all, fighting Judah or Paulie would have got him better adjusted to guys with speed and decent movement i dont understand how you can say what i said is a load of S***. No way was Castillo 2nd best 140 fighter he came from 135 and struggled. I never said Judah or Paulie would have beat Hatton i said as a tune up they would have better prepared him for the fight.
Castillo has a more of a name than PM or ZJ. Judah was on a bad losing streak and PM is a nobody at this stage of hattons carrer. The Castillo fight had to happen and it happend at a good time for Ricky because he proved yet again he is the best at 140. When you look at the devision i actually still do believe that Castillo even after the Hatton loss is still ranked 2nd and i would favour him to beat anybody at 140. Even PM or Witter. I just dont see how you can come out with a statement that even if he tryed x3 as hard as he did against tszyu he would still struggle, realistically he would stop him in the first round if he tryed that hard.
My point is this, how can a fighter of Ricky Hattons class who is a 2-weight world champion 43-0 be looked over and FM is greatly underestimating him, it just doest make sense at all. Hatton has this burning desire to win this fight, this is something that FM is lacking. Im scared for FM in this respect because RH is going to be the hardest fight of his carrer so far, and if he takes his foot of the gas remotly he is getting KTFO!!!!
Oh I'll go out on a limb and say Floyd has a huge burning desire to beat Ricky. I think he really hates Hatton and if you think he wants the end of his career to have a loss on it from Hatton you're crazy. I think Floyd really does believe Hatton will be a cinch to beat, but he'll be prepared and no doubt he'll have a desire to get Ricky out of there in decisive fashion. Calling Ricky a d class amateur wrestler seems indicative to me his disdain of Hatton and he'll want to back up those words and be the great eraser come the 8th. With that said I hope Hatton k.o.'s him.
Hatton has shown no disrespect towards Mayweather like Mayweather has done towards Hatton. We can tell from this the true focus is going to be on Hattons side because he doesnt get tangled in with this bad mouthing. Legion you might support mayweather but some of the things he has been saying about Hatton are just outrageous. everybody is just sick of his bollocks, espically me, and how is a 2 weight world champion 43-0, going to be a d class amatuer wrestler, its just plain shit ! Its annoying as welll because we all know that what ever FM says it will not happen. This is his hardest fight of his carrer like it or not for Mayweather and he will be in for the hardest fight of his carrer on the 8th of dec.
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Mayweather is a gimp in that respect...
It's perfectly acceptable for him to walk around disrespecting every one under the sun, but when Ricky makes one provocative (but by no means demeaning) statement Floyd gets all offended and outraged. "He insulted me!!!" What a hypocritical baby.
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Check out the results of the poll...
Hatton to shock the world
Clearly people won't be as shocked as you think ;)
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Mayweather is a gimp in that respect...
Took the words right outta my sig!
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Hatton by decision in the biggest stunner of the century thus far.
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Good work Wack cc.
At the mo I'm leaning towards a FM Decision. Change my mind every week.
IMO this fight is very hard to gauge, you can look at a good performance of one of the guys (Tzyu or Gatti), and then a poorer performance (Collazo or IMO ODLH) and just not know what's going to happen. Both guys will bring their A games to this fight, I doubt Mayweather has taken this lightly considering he picked so long ago, and he doesn't want to fuck his legacy.
I'll be surprised if this fight is easy for one or the other, it's going to be close. I don't see Floyd creaming Hatton like he did Gatti, Hatton is better at getting inside, and is also stronger with better stamina. I don't see Hatton stopping Floyd either (unlees at best a very late TKO) due to Floyd's defence and good conditioning, Hatton dooes hit quite hard, but he's not the monster some guys make him out to be after the Castillo fight, he's fought a few guys where his punches just bounced off them.
I see it going one way and then the other, Hatton won't be discouraged if he has a bad round, he'll raise the pace again in the next, like he did against Tzyu, but He won't be landing as often against Floyd, and will ultimately be outboxed over the twelve.
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Oh i cant wait for Dec 8th a lot of people on here are going to be eating a lot of humble pie curtousy of Money Mayweather "Flashy" lol he does sound like a bit of a pr**k tho
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He sounds incredibly arrogant, self centered and at times ignorant to be honest.
this a pity as boxing and it's biggest star has always been seen as a sign of society in that era.
The 20's had Dempsey; a rugged era, tough no doubt!
The early 50's had Joe louis; a time of silence and barely covered fear.
The late 50's was the time of Sugar Ray; a happier flashier time
The 60's had Muhammad Ali; A time of revoloution, change and refusal to conform.
The 70's had a good mix with Monzon and the emergence of SRL; a time of rejoicee and style
The 80's had the big 4; we all now about that.
But what have we now? If our biggest star is a trash talking unpopular provocative and general unlikable huma being what does that say about us?
So if Floyd is to beat Rick (God forbid!) i'd think maybe Floyd should make a sustained attempt to calm it a bit.
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But what have we now? If our biggest star is a trash talking unpopular provocative and general unlikable huma being what does that say about us?
Are you talking about the current decade or the 1960s?
Because Ali was the most disliked and unpopular athlete in the entire United States during the late 1960s, and was viewed as a rude obnoxious trash talking unlikeable human being.
In fact, if you look throughout history, the best fighters have usually been brash, cocky and controversial. Floyd Mayweather is no different personality-wise than most of the great fighters throughout the years.
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But what have we now? If our biggest star is a trash talking unpopular provocative and general unlikable huma being what does that say about us?
Are you talking about the current decade or the 1960s?
Because Ali was the most disliked and unpopular athlete in the entire United States during the late 1960s, and was viewed as a rude obnoxious trash talking unlikeable human being.
In fact, if you look throughout history, the best fighters have usually been brash, cocky and controversial. Floyd Mayweather is no different personality-wise than most of the great fighters throughout the years.
People forget what a jerk and a racist toward his own people, he was as well as a contoversial political effect he had.
They only see him as a feeble old fella who commands sympathy cause he is stricken with a debilitating disease.
I'll venture to say that if Ali was 100% healthy without disease he would still be arrogant and abrasive
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
But what have we now? If our biggest star is a trash talking unpopular provocative and general unlikable huma being what does that say about us?
Are you talking about the current decade or the 1960s?
Because Ali was the most disliked and unpopular athlete in the entire United States during the late 1960s, and was viewed as a rude obnoxious trash talking unlikeable human being.
In fact, if you look throughout history, the best fighters have usually been brash, cocky and controversial. Floyd Mayweather is no different personality-wise than most of the great fighters throughout the years.
Truer words were never spoken.
Ali was a bit of a racist on top of being a player.
Liston was a thug.
Tyson was a total piece of shit.
It's not all Floyd...& honestly...I aint out painting the town with him...so I could really give a shat in the end. As long as Floyd does his work in the ring...you know that he's doing it outside of the ring also.
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Choice quotes that I found to be quite amusing…
Oscar De La Hoya : “What I see with Hatton is that he has both speed and power. The difference with Hatton is that he brings intelligent pressure and that’s the key word. He not only comes forward and puts pressure on you, he does it in an intelligent way and that will play a part in the fight”
Ricky Hatton : “I have no doubt that at times he might lead me in a merry dance and pick me off with his wonderful boxing ability,” said Hatton. “But can he do that for twelve rounds? Has he got the firepower to deal with my educated pressure? That’s the key.”
So…basically Oscar has come up with & convinced Hatton that he can beat Floyd by using…“intelligent & educated pressure”?
Hilarious.
STFU!
Just push Floyd around the ring all night as hard as you can & you might get a win. A prime young Castillo tried & failed…but it may work with Hatton…just don’t call that shit intelligent pressure…it makes you look stupid, Oscar.
We all get that your’e bitter about losing.
Full article at http://www.secondsout.com/UK/news.cfm?ccs=228&cs=23331
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But what have we now? If our biggest star is a trash talking unpopular provocative and general unlikable huma being what does that say about us?
Are you talking about the current decade or the 1960s?
Because Ali was the most disliked and unpopular athlete in the entire United States during the late 1960s, and was viewed as a rude obnoxious trash talking unlikeable human being.
In fact, if you look throughout history, the best fighters have usually been brash, cocky and controversial. Floyd Mayweather is no different personality-wise than most of the great fighters throughout the years.
Jack Dempsey was loved, a rough man but loved.
SRR was cocky but in a nice way and loved.
Joe Louis was loved never cocky or arrogant.
Marciano was probably the most humble of all
And i am well aware of Ali's status in the 60's yet he turned it all round in the 70's. You think we're all going to love Floyd soon?
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And i am well aware of Ali's status in the 60's yet he turned it all round in the 70's. You think we're all going to love Floyd soon?
The odds of this occurring are no worse than the odds in the 60s that Ali would one day be loved.
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Eeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwy.
There sure is a lot of talk about "man lovin" happening here. :P
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Can't freaking wait Wack, I believe and hope PBF will win, But would not be too upset if Hatton won, He just is a cool fella, even if his little one sounds a little like Forrest Gump. Am I the only one that thinks he sounds like Gump? 8) I'm in no means bashing his son, He just sounds like Forrest Gump
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:coolclick: Wacko! Do you know how long ive been waiting for your DRBR on this shat! ^-^
Its close now man.... So damn close you can almost toutch it ;D
Im so into this fight i was even sucked into putting £10 on Mayweather for a stoppage victroy....
Not exactly lavish spending but not bad when you consider the odds. (£5 on 11th round @ 40-1 & £5 on 12th round @ 50-1!!!!)
Despite the gamble on stoppage, i say Mayweather by a points margin so wide, the judges scorecards will need to sport red & yellow fluorescent markings ^-^
Inspite of all i have said, the fan boy in me desperatley wants Hatton to win. Im from the UK and i dont care, if one of my boys are fighting, i want them to win.
Heres my Hatton/ Mayweather anthem ;D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/v/VTSbcdhBHuA&rel=1
Here is mine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTjnhS96Nyo
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I am for Floyd of course and i think too that he will win by a clear UD...
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Smellllllll The "upset"!One way or another.On Sunday December 9th A.M..there will be bruised Egos ,Busted Ribs and a collective :-X Excuse :-X
Ouch my hands...Ouch He's Dirty....Ouch He hit low...He Hugs people...
Either that or I'll be Tasting the souls of my boots for the future on Saddo's!And spending alot of time letting others "shine" there shoes the Hard way at my expense ... :o Ouch Me arse! ;DViva Hatton
