Elbows are blatant fouls and yet Floyd was allowed to use it all night long.

Hatto was beaten far and square!! Theres no point moaning about Cortez at the end of the day Mayweather was far better!

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Hatton doesn't fight squeaky clean himself he damn near pushed floyd through the ring and hit him in the back of the head himself, point is hatton lost doesn't matter how anymore, hatton did really really well and has nothing to be ashamed of, he doesn't need a bunch of excuses he'll still have a loss on his record when it's all said and done. I for one like hatton and give no excuses for him just like wouldn't have if he won and besides he doesn't need them.

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I'm really amazed at these comments aboout how "well' the Hugman did . The guy landed less than 6 punches per round and got stopped. He did terrible ,looked lousy and was a crude, fouling,disgrace to the sport.

Waaa Waaa Waaa do you ever stop fucking crying danny_g?
Man it's gonna get annoying when Floyd knocks Cotto the fuck out..There'll be one (probably more!) thread for each of your excuses and believe me these will be plentiful.

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Elbows are dangerous and blatant fouls.
How many times did Cortez warn Floyd for using the elbow? How many times was he just there letting Floyd get away with elbow shots without saying anything to Floyd?

Not only was Floyd using his elbow as a weapon, he was also back handing Hatton.

I think it is time to make a new video and expose this cheating mother phuker for what he really is.
Floyd was not deducted any points for elbowing. Hatton was penalized for missing a glove to the back of Floyds head. That's right!, The punch in which Hatton lost a point never even phuking landed.
Hey Joe Cortez, go hang yourself you dirty disgrace for a Hispanic.

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So is punching somebody in the ding dong and rearranging their babymaker.. Hmmmm dosent Mr.Robotto like to tee of on peoples ding a lings ;D

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Is that all you got?
You don't feel any shame?
Cotto will expose Floyd just like Calzaghe exposed Lacy.
If and when your boy grows a set.
First he ducks Margarito and now he is ducking Cotto?
Floyd is a great ducker. Did you see all that ducking below the waist he was doing against a midget? Just think what Cotto would do to Floyd.
Floyd looked too much like Judah in there. A one trick pony who kept trying to land a hail Mary. One dimmensional elbow using cheater. Cotto will take the spark out of Floyd with a couple of low blows and some elbows of his own. Cotto beat Mosley with out ever going to the body. His best weapon, and he never used it. I can just image what destruction Cotto would do to Floyd. You feel it don't you? Are you happy Floyd went back into hidding after fighting a midget who has pretended to be a welter weight twice in his career? No props from me to your boy. His performance was pathetic and his game has major holes. I can not wait until floyds nut drop so he can man up to the whooping that is coming.

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Jeezus man, chill out :o are out of your gotdam mind? Dude do what you want and do your best to shove Cotto down everyone elses throat... The truth is you are hiding your own insecurities about Cotto's chances, you know deep down behind all your clever clip art and ravings like a whino cali street preacher holding his :end: sign. that Floyd will pick Cotto to pieces, Cotto cant close the distance well at all...Dosent posess the footspeed, Cotto has a high tight guard but will get hurt to the body. Say what you want but Cotto showed his weakness against Shane, Shane dug that body and hung in there long enough to send Cotto in reverse. Yor Boy is a Bleeder and cant hold his mud, Cotto will chase Mayweather around the ring like zombie and getting picked apart from the outside until he chokes on his own blood from uppercuts and straight rights and left hooks. Floyd is stronger than you think he will own Cotto, Cotto will be like everyone else with a connect % in the teens and will realize that everytime he wings a shot that a crisp clean nasty counter will come back after 7 rounds he will be gunshy and then surgically dissected. Uncle Cotto will be huggin his little nephew in the corner and not sending his family out for anymore humiliation.

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i dont understand how there is still a misconception that cotto throws wild punches looking for a KO, cotto is an accurate puncher who knows how to set up shots and doesnt expect to win fights with single punches

Floyd was using elbows, effectively too. But hatton wanted a rough fight. Im sure pre-fight Hatton would've been happy to know floyd was going to fight rough inside at times other then dancing around on the outside.

I just watched the fight for the 2nd time and PBF initiated the rough or dirty fighting. Hatton didn't do much of it at all. And the first 3 rounds could have been scored for Hatton so the official scorecards were "off" in my opinion.

I think Floyd was frustrated first 3 rounds and that's when he started getting rough. It ultimately led to him getting the ko so it was good for him. Hatton couldn't take PBF's shots and is either truly not able to fight in the WW or all the binging and dieting has caught up with him.

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Is that all you got?
You don't feel any shame?
Cotto will expose Floyd just like Calzaghe exposed Lacy.
If and when your boy grows a set.
First he ducks Margarito and now he is ducking Cotto?
Floyd is a great ducker. Did you see all that ducking below the waist he was doing against a midget? Just think what Cotto would do to Floyd.
Floyd looked too much like Judah in there. A one trick pony who kept trying to land a hail Mary. One dimmensional elbow using cheater. Cotto will take the spark out of Floyd with a couple of low blows and some elbows of his own. Cotto beat Mosley with out ever going to the body. His best weapon, and he never used it. I can just image what destruction Cotto would do to Floyd. You feel it don't you? Are you happy Floyd went back into hidding after fighting a midget who has pretended to be a welter weight twice in his career? No props from me to your boy. His performance was pathetic and his game has major holes. I can not wait until floyds nut drop so he can man up to the whooping that is coming.

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Jeezus man, chill out :o are out of your gotdam mind? Dude do what you want and do your best to shove Cotto down everyone elses throat... The truth is you are hiding your own insecurities about Cotto's chances, you know deep down behind all your clever clip art and ravings like a whino cali street preacher holding his :end: sign. that Floyd will pick Cotto to pieces, Cotto cant close the distance well at all...Dosent posess the footspeed, Cotto has a high tight guard but will get hurt to the body. Say what you want but Cotto showed his weakness against Shane, Shane dug that body and hung in there long enough to send Cotto in reverse. Yor Boy is a Bleeder and cant hold his mud, Cotto will chase Mayweather around the ring like zombie and getting picked apart from the outside until he chokes on his own blood from uppercuts and straight rights and left hooks. Floyd is stronger than you think he will own Cotto, Cotto will be like everyone else with a connect % in the teens and will realize that everytime he wings a shot that a crisp clean nasty counter will come back after 7 rounds he will be gunshy and then surgically dissected. Uncle Cotto will be huggin his little nephew in the corner and not sending his family out for anymore humiliation.

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i dont understand how there is still a misconception that cotto throws wild punches looking for a KO, cotto is an accurate puncher who knows how to set up shots and doesnt expect to win fights with single punches

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Those who say that are clueless and don't understand what they see.

The funny thing is, we have yet to see the best of Miguel Cotto.

Miguel has some more weapons in his arsenal, one in particular that he does not use. This weapon he is saving for some one (you know who) And when he whips it out, he is going to blow PBF right out of the water and knock him the phuk out.

Did you see the hard right hatton landed, in round 6, about 6 seconds before mayweather put his head through the ropes, where hatton landed the one punch to the back of the head. Mayweather didn't seem to like being rocked like that. How anybody could give mayweather the first 3 rounds is beyond me. He hardly did anything.

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Did you see the hard right hatton landed, in round 6, about 6 seconds before mayweather put his head through the ropes, where hatton landed the one punch to the back of the head. Mayweather didn't seem to like being rocked like that. How anybody could give mayweather the first 3 rounds is beyond me. He hardly did anything.

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1 and 3 were his all day long. 2 was easily Hattons. Hatton won 2 rounds the whole fight. You get scored for 'EFFECTIVE' Aggresion. Not just aggresion. Floyd won the rounds on ring generalship and clean, accurate punching.

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Hatton doesn't fight squeaky clean himself he damn near pushed floyd through the ring and hit him in the back of the head himself, point is hatton lost doesn't matter how anymore, hatton did really really well and has nothing to be ashamed of, he doesn't need a bunch of excuses he'll still have a loss on his record when it's all said and done. I for one like hatton and give no excuses for him just like wouldn't have if he won and besides he doesn't need them.

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I will reply to Missy. How many times does a ref have to warn some one about Elbows?
Cortez warned Floyd on every round.

Hatton's blow to the so called back of the head when Floyd ducked below waist to avoid Hatton? The blow never even landed. It was a bogus point deduction. Did you watch the fight more than once? I have watched it 3 times already. Most fights I debate I watch over and over again and then I post videos clips to prove what I am debating. Do you need me to post it and show you it did not land?

Missy do you need me to post how many times Floyd used the elbow? Do you need me to post how many times Floyd was warned and how many times he was not warned even though Joe was standing right there seeing the elbows? I am going to work on this video a little later.

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8) be my guest he still shoved him through the ropes and threw a punch and it wasn't the first time he hit behind the head.

If he ducked low it was a couple of times, mostly it was borderline belt which is allowed.

I hope there is a rematch and Floyd whacks him out again the way some of you are carrying on. Did you call Hatton a cheat in his previous foul ridden mauls? I doubt it.

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Hatton doesn't fight squeaky clean himself he damn near pushed floyd through the ring and hit him in the back of the head himself, point is hatton lost doesn't matter how anymore, hatton did really really well and has nothing to be ashamed of, he doesn't need a bunch of excuses he'll still have a loss on his record when it's all said and done. I for one like hatton and give no excuses for him just like wouldn't have if he won and besides he doesn't need them.

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I will reply to Missy. How many times does a ref have to warn some one about Elbows?
Cortez warned Floyd on every round.

Hatton's blow to the so called back of the head when Floyd ducked below waist to avoid Hatton? The blow never even landed. It was a bogus point deduction. Did you watch the fight more than once? I have watched it 3 times already. Most fights I debate I watch over and over again and then I post videos clips to prove what I am debating. Do you need me to post it and show you it did not land?

Missy do you need me to post how many times Floyd used the elbow? Do you need me to post how many times Floyd was warned and how many times he was not warned even though Joe was standing right there seeing the elbows? I am going to work on this video a little later.

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8) be my guest he still shoved him through the ropes and threw a punch and it wasn't the first time he hit behind the head.

If he ducked low it was a couple of times, mostly it was borderline belt which is allowed.

I hope there is a rematch and Floyd whacks him out again the way some of you are carrying on. Did you call Hatton a cheat in his previous foul ridden mauls? I doubt it.

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Well after watching the fight for the 2nd time i was absolutely disgusted with what Cortez let Mayweather get away with. And although he did shove him through the rope and attempt to land a blow, it was exactly the same as what Floyd did to Hatton in the 2nd round. Didn't even receive a warning...let alone a deduction.

Actually from watching the first 5 rounds, Hatton appeared to be the only fighter who received any warnings. The only time Floyd did was when Cortez threatened to take a point from both (which is quite pointless). I actually stopped counting on about 12 (warnings).

Cortez also pissed me off with his 'don't hit him when he goes down' rant. What does that mean? Hatton can't hit Floyd when he bends over and turns away? Why not? Because the only hittable target is the back of Floyds Head or torso! So how is that any different from basically turning your back on your opponent?

I still stick by my 'Hatton wudn't have won even if his dad was the ref' statement but imo he never even got a fair crack at it.

Ono, let's make a sig bet. I really need to find a way to get rid of that bug crawling around :-\ Anyone have any Cyber-Raid?

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Ok well i bet that Hatton won't get ko'd by the ringpost in his next fight.

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if he throws while he is bent over (allowed as long as your not past the waistline) you are likely to hit the back and back of head which would be illegal, good advice.

Back up so it's obvious he's looking to avoid, careful uppercut, push him back but don't lean on! so they can then claim you were pushing them down.

I think people are being very one sided in what work they see & what warnings they are counting.

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Ok well i bet that Hatton won't get ko'd by the ringpost in his next fight.

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You must be crazy!! If I take that bet the next thing I know I'll have a bug crawling around as part of my profile ::** Go to hell ;D

aha ;D

seriously we should have another sig bet.....

like taking candy from a baby....


;)

Well I saw your post about Taylor/Pavlik, so let's do it. :lickish:

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ok thats cool

are you angry?

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what ya wanna shhot for? 20 cc's and sig bet?

I don't see the big deal with Cortez. It was a very rough fight on both sides. Cortez pointed Hatton for almost hitting behind the head. Big deal- was it the last time Hatton hit behind the head? No? Well then it amounts to the same thing, doesn't it? Cortez warned Mayweather for using the elbow but for the most part Floyd was using his forearms to push Hatton off or hold him at bay because Hatton was crowding him. Floyd knew he needed a certain amount of distance and he created that by pushing Hatton away. It's funny how people are bedeviling Floyd for his fouling but have little to nothing to say about Hatton's. Oh and absolutely nothing to say about Cortez's poor refereeing of Hatton's bout with Castillo. He punched him in the nuts no fewer than 3 times but everyone celebrated the huge KO over a faded fighter (who probably quit because he had no hope at a fair fight).

The Floyd hate is so thick here that it clouds men's minds. How does one duck a fighter when there's been no talk of the two fighting by EITHER camp?

When Cotto attended Gatti-Mayweather he had zilch to say after Arturro got his beating. He's never said anythign publicly about fighting Floyd but all of a sudden it's a known fact that PBF avoided him. Pull your head out of Cotto's @$$ and see the situation for what it is. Mayweather is only about fighters who can create a huge payday. Until THIS year Cotto has not been one of them. Cotto still isn't on par with what he can make with a De La Hoya or a Hatton. A mere competitive fight isn't enough for him. Hey, sad for boxing, but I wouldn't do it for any less than I could get.

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I don't see the big deal with Cortez. It was a very rough fight on both sides. Cortez pointed Hatton for almost hitting behind the head. Big deal- was it the last time Hatton hit behind the head? No? Well then it amounts to the same thing, doesn't it? Cortez warned Mayweather for using the elbow but for the most part Floyd was using his forearms to push Hatton off or hold him at bay because Hatton was crowding him. Floyd knew he needed a certain amount of distance and he created that by pushing Hatton away. It's funny how people are bedeviling Floyd for his fouling but have little to nothing to say about Hatton's. Oh and absolutely nothing to say about Cortez's poor refereeing of Hatton's bout with Castillo. He punched him in the nuts no fewer than 3 times but everyone celebrated the huge KO over a faded fighter (who probably quit because he had no hope at a fair fight).

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I actually did reference this on another thread. I said i felt Cortez in each fight severly protected the fighter whom HBO would make the most money out of.

Then why not protect Hatton more? Hatton's got a huge following and is going to be more active than Mayweather in the coming year. He already has an opponent lined up while Mayweather, before the fight, announced he won't be doing anything inside a ring for the next 2 years. I don't think HBO put a bug in Cortez's ear; I think they do value integrity even though they do have bias. But in the case of December 8, their bias was toward Hatton.

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Then why not protect Hatton more? Hatton's got a huge following and is going to be more active than Mayweather in the coming year. He already has an opponent lined up while Mayweather, before the fight, announced he won't be doing anything inside a ring for the next 2 years. I don't think HBO put a bug in Cortez's ear; I think they do value integrity even though they do have bias. But in the case of December 8, their bias was toward Hatton.

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Yeh Hatton draws the big following but the british fans aint paying HBO to watch the fight.

I'm pretty sure HBO didn't put a bug in Cortez's ear and while the commentators may have shown bias towards hatton (not even sure if they did) it's a bit difficult to suggest anything else was in hatton's favour. The commentators do not solely represent HBO. It's higher up than that.

To be honest this goes into a debate that i don't even want to go into because a) it cannot be proven b) it's quite controversial and c) hatton wouldn't have won even if his dad was the ref

It aint no ticklin contest.....hatton didn't bitch so why is anyone else. He knew what floyd was gonna do, and floyd knew what hatton is known to do. Hatton doesn't need any excuses made for him.