Re: I think I know why Mayweather won't fight Cotto
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ShZA,if you think Margairot is a glorified journeymen,you either haven't seen enough of his fights or are just uneducated. He's not a top5 WW for no reason.And that's top 5 on EVERY list.
I'm just trying to get a rise out of Danny. Seriously though, top5 means #5, not 2, 3, or 4. I've never been very impressed with Margarito. And if ODH comes down in weight like he says he's going to, Margarito falls out of the top 5 for me. In fact, I'd be tempted to put Clottey over him now, given that it seemed he was well on his way to a wide UD before breaking his hand. (I recognize that we've had this discussion before and that your response is that Margarito is a slow starter; I'll grant you that, but for me that just means we ought to see a Margarito/Clottey rematch to see who's better, because it's far from clear to me that it's Margarito.)
1. Mayweather
2. Cotto
3. Williams
4. Mosley
5. ODH
6. Margarito/Clottey
I'm not going through that dude,been through it way too mant times. Margarito is top 5 on every list I've seen,that's good enough for me. He's beaten far better fighters than Clottey and beaten Clottey,so there goes youur argument. Tony would WRECK Oscar at this atage of his career. I've also told you,and it's a well known fact that Tony was injured going into the fight too. He fought Clottey voluntariyl,when he didn't have to. If you aren't willing to respect him for that,espcially as every other name fighter has turned Joshua down,then that's your choice.
I agree. Tony has the ability to beat any welterweight in the world. I cannot pick any welterweight where I can declare them a clear favorite over him in my eyes.
Cotto vs Margarito? I cannot Pick
Williams vs Margarito 2? I cannot pick
Mayweather vs Margarito? I cannot pick
Margarito has the size, skill and power that could f*ck anyone up at 147 bad. How could anyone call him a Journeyman?
Re: I think I know why Mayweather won't fight Cotto
CC back SHZA even though I admit,I was considering scing you for your ludicrous points about Clottey Tony which in essence,state,if a fighter is winning and injures his hand,regardless of his opponent being a slow starter or being injured himself,the guy with the initial injury is on par with the winner.Despite the outcome of the fight or who showed most heart. ;D ;D
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
ShZA,if you think Margairot is a glorified journeymen,you either haven't seen enough of his fights or are just uneducated. He's not a top5 WW for no reason.And that's top 5 on EVERY list.
I'm just trying to get a rise out of Danny. Seriously though, top5 means #5, not 2, 3, or 4. I've never been very impressed with Margarito. And if ODH comes down in weight like he says he's going to, Margarito falls out of the top 5 for me. In fact, I'd be tempted to put Clottey over him now, given that it seemed he was well on his way to a wide UD before breaking his hand. (I recognize that we've had this discussion before and that your response is that Margarito is a slow starter; I'll grant you that, but for me that just means we ought to see a Margarito/Clottey rematch to see who's better, because it's far from clear to me that it's Margarito.)
1. Mayweather
2. Cotto
3. Williams
4. Mosley
5. ODH
6. Margarito/Clottey
I'm not going through that dude,been through it way too mant times. Margarito is top 5 on every list I've seen,that's good enough for me. He's beaten far better fighters than Clottey and beaten Clottey,so there goes youur argument. Tony would WRECK Oscar at this atage of his career. I've also told you,and it's a well known fact that Tony was injured going into the fight too. He fought Clottey voluntariyl,when he didn't have to. If you aren't willing to respect him for that,espcially as every other name fighter has turned Joshua down,then that's your choice.
I agree. Tony has the ability to beat any welterweight in the world. I cannot pick any welterweight where I can declare them a clear favorite over him in my eyes.
Cotto vs Margarito? I cannot Pick
Williams vs Margarito 2? I cannot pick
Mayweather vs Margarito? I cannot pick
Margarito has the size, skill and power that could f*ck anyone up at 147 bad. How could anyone call him a Journeyman?
I disagree with the Mayweather fight,I'd have Floyd as a favourite for that but I'd choose Tony over Cotto(who is my other boy but I think Tony has the style to beat him),I'd choose Tony over PW in a rematch and I'd choose Tony to give everyone else a tough fight. I'm nto saying he's the best but no-one fights him and has an easy night.That's a guarantee.
Re: I think I know why Mayweather won't fight Cotto
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
CC back SHZA even though I admit,I was considering scing you for your ludicrous points about Clottey Tony which in essence,state,if a fighter is winning and injures his hand,regardless of his opponent being a slow starter or being injured himself,the guy with the initial injury is on par with the winner.Despite the outcome of the fight or who showed most heart. ;D ;D
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
ShZA,if you think Margairot is a glorified journeymen,you either haven't seen enough of his fights or are just uneducated. He's not a top5 WW for no reason.And that's top 5 on EVERY list.
I'm just trying to get a rise out of Danny. Seriously though, top5 means #5, not 2, 3, or 4. I've never been very impressed with Margarito. And if ODH comes down in weight like he says he's going to, Margarito falls out of the top 5 for me. In fact, I'd be tempted to put Clottey over him now, given that it seemed he was well on his way to a wide UD before breaking his hand. (I recognize that we've had this discussion before and that your response is that Margarito is a slow starter; I'll grant you that, but for me that just means we ought to see a Margarito/Clottey rematch to see who's better, because it's far from clear to me that it's Margarito.)
1. Mayweather
2. Cotto
3. Williams
4. Mosley
5. ODH
6. Margarito/Clottey
I'm not going through that dude,been through it way too mant times. Margarito is top 5 on every list I've seen,that's good enough for me. He's beaten far better fighters than Clottey and beaten Clottey,so there goes youur argument. Tony would WRECK Oscar at this atage of his career. I've also told you,and it's a well known fact that Tony was injured going into the fight too. He fought Clottey voluntariyl,when he didn't have to. If you aren't willing to respect him for that,espcially as every other name fighter has turned Joshua down,then that's your choice.
I agree. Tony has the ability to beat any welterweight in the world. I cannot pick any welterweight where I can declare them a clear favorite over him in my eyes.
Cotto vs Margarito? I cannot Pick
Williams vs Margarito 2? I cannot pick
Mayweather vs Margarito? I cannot pick
Margarito has the size, skill and power that could f*ck anyone up at 147 bad. How could anyone call him a Journeyman?
I disagree with the Mayweather fight,I'd have Floyd as a favourite for that but I'd choose Tony over Cotto(who is my other boy but I think Tony has the style to beat him),I'd choose Tony over PW in a rematch and I'd choose Tony to give everyone else a tough fight. I'm nto saying he's the best but no-one fights him and has an easy night.That's a guarantee.
I give him a shot against Floyd because his is taller with a longer reach. I believe he also has more two handed power than Mayweather has ever dealt with. Punches at odd angles etc. Floyd would not have an easy night for sure, win or lose.
Re: I think I know why Mayweather won't fight Cotto
IMHO each one of these guys, Margarito, Williams, Cotto, Mosley, Mayweather, even Cintron with his solid punching power, has a shot at beating any one of the others in any given day. That is how hot this division is right now.
Re: I think I know why Mayweather won't fight Cotto
Why can he not go and Fight Cotto and Williams and Maybe Margrito there the top why not i mean Sugar Ray leonard fought them all why not Floyd.
Re: I think I know why Mayweather won't fight Cotto
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Originally Posted by Mr140
Why can he not go and Fight Cotto and Williams and Maybe Margrito there the top why not i mean Sugar Ray leonard fought them all why not Floyd.
Exactly! I don't understand why these guys put him above that like he's just the best because he says so.
His career defining win, as he himself puts it, is DLH. Cotto beat Shane who beat DLH twice. Cottos decision was unanimous while floys was split. Of all their common opponents, floyds wins were all decisions and Cottos were all ko's.
With that being said, why should Cotto have to fight all these other guys before floyd fights him. floyd is not the huge draw he makes himself out to be as evidenced by the pro Hatton and DLH crowds when he fought them.
Re: I think I know why Mayweather won't fight Cotto
Now that Mayweather has fought two “money” fights, it is time the “linear” welterweight to fight a true welterweight. Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Cintron, Clottey, etc. No more fighters past their prime. No more fighters coming up in weight. Enough is enough. It is time to see the “linear” welterweight champion fight a welterweight.
Re: I think I know why Mayweather won't fight Cotto
Exactly what makes him so great that he is above fighting the best like everyone elese had to do to be great what makes him so special.
Re: I think I know why Mayweather won't fight Cotto
honestly floyd mayweather is the best fight in boxing right now but he has no heart and every knew that ricky hatton didn't have a chance..... was it a 9 inch reach advantage too??? lol stop kidding so why cant Cotto,Williams, or anyone who has an entertaing style who fights smart.. People make up mistakes but at welterweights it still undefeated champs IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT THE NAMES OF WHO THEY BEAT.... When its all said and done he has little balls for not unifying the belts before he left cause he's leaving us with a bitter taste in our mouth cause he wont clear a division he'd rather hand pick opponent.... thats why he always goes to different weight classes so he wont have to see danger lol...Oscar seemed dangerous but he wasn't in his prime he found uncle roger in 93 HIS PRIME but mayweather got famous off the name he's good but he people who's gonna push him to the limit ricky showed that he's half the fight we believe him to be he cut ricky fucking eye with a elbow and was hitting in the back of his head and thats what really made ricky inside game suck. Cotto will do way better than hatton but i guess we only will talk about it cause thats how champs leave fans lol HANDS UP FOR FLOYD "MONEY" MAYWEATHER if the NFL could hand pick opponents how would you like it well i'd die to prove my point some people just take the easy way....
