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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by eagle
How about Corrie Sanders?
The Sniper def. deserves a mention....
Love his fights against Tubbs & Rahman... Talk about back and forth. Good call eagle.
Some people don't know this but he fought Johnny Nelson early in his career (1992) beat Nelson on points.
And he did something i dont think any current Heavy could do. Beat Wladdy Klit.
CC back mate. This thread is a good change from the usual Floyd, Hatton, Cotto posts that dominate this board lately.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Violent Demise,
You wanna know something....
I had the most trouble figuring out if Ike should be above Ayub or Ayub above Ike.
I know you'll say Ike off the top of your head but I needed to do a double take on their careers to make sure Ike went above Ayub.
I think very highly of Quartey as you know. I think he's fine where he's at. I would personally put him 3rd on your list. But I got no problem with your selection
Right on VD...
As I went thru their careers, wins, loses, titles. At first glance they both had big names that stood out and they both won titles plus made some defenses but. Ike beats Ayub on quality of opposition and Ike is also more skilled then Ayub, that's why I rated Ike higher.
Thanks for the input.
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One thing about Quartey, he always fought the best fighters he could get and was competitive in almost all his losses. Alot of people think he gave De La Hoya his first loss, and Jose Luis Lopez draw was questionable scoring. I didnt see his fight against Forrest, again controversial. But his losses to Winky and Vargas were legit. He couldn't land jack on Winky and Winky dropped him once in the fight. That was definately a loss.
Well I can try and tell you that Ike won but I don't think he did. It was a close fight I don't remember how I scored it to be honest. (I think we covered this fight in SweetPeas thread in the 1st season)
But the Jose L. Lopez draw was also close when I saw it live I think I scored it for Lopez but after watching again some months back I think Ike won the fight.
The Forrest loss was bad, I mean Ike was more effective that night and he got robbed.
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by eagle
How about Corrie Sanders?
The Sniper def. deserves a mention....
Love his fights against Tubbs & Rahman... Talk about back and forth. Good call eagle.
Some people don't know this but he fought Johnny Nelson early in his career (1992) beat Nelson on points.
And he did something i dont think any current Heavy could do. Beat Wladdy Klit.
CC back mate. This thread is a good change from the usual Floyd, Hatton, Cotto posts that dominate this board lately.
Oddly enough as I was rushing to make this thread I said to myself "With all the Cotto, Hatton, PBF threads going on chances are I'll be lucky if anyone replies" :D
I'm working on some good lists so look out for them. ;)
Thanks...
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Re: * Who is the Greatest African fighter? *
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by eagle
How about Corrie Sanders?
The Sniper def. deserves a mention....
Love his fights against Tubbs & Rahman... Talk about back and forth. Good call eagle.
Some people don't know this but he fought Johnny Nelson early in his career (1992) beat Nelson on points.
And he did something i dont think any current Heavy could do. Beat Wladdy Klit.
CC back mate. This thread is a good change from the usual Floyd, Hatton, Cotto posts that dominate this board lately.
Oddly enough as I was rushing to make this thread I said to myself "With all the Cotto, Hatton, PBF threads going on chances are I'll be lucky if anyone replies" :D
I'm working on some good lists so look out for them. ;)
Thanks...
After reading this thread and cos im an Aussie i was thinking of starting a best Aussie fighter thread. Where u gonna do one on that cos i dont wanna stop u.
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Re: * Who is the Greatest African fighter? *
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by eagle
How about Corrie Sanders?
The Sniper def. deserves a mention....
Love his fights against Tubbs & Rahman... Talk about back and forth. Good call eagle.
Some people don't know this but he fought Johnny Nelson early in his career (1992) beat Nelson on points.
And he did something i dont think any current Heavy could do. Beat Wladdy Klit.
CC back mate. This thread is a good change from the usual Floyd, Hatton, Cotto posts that dominate this board lately.
Oddly enough as I was rushing to make this thread I said to myself "With all the Cotto, Hatton, PBF threads going on chances are I'll be lucky if anyone replies" :D
I'm working on some good lists so look out for them. ;)
Thanks...
After reading this thread and cos im an Aussie i was thinking of starting a best Aussie fighter thread. Where u gonna do one on that cos i dont wanna stop u.
I think you should start working on it. ;)
Good call on that...
Heres 3. :)
Tszyu
Glen Kelly
Fenech
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Who do you consider the to be the greatest African fighter of all time?
Weeks a go I made a thread about the greatest Japanese fighter. Thanks to everyone for the replies and input I myself learned some stuff from that thread.
I did some research for the greatest African fighter here's what I came up with...
(Let me clarify that I put the list together looking at skills, opposition, titles, wins vs. loses among other things. I've also at least seen 1 full fight of each fighter plus highlights.)
1. Azumah Nelson
2. Dick Tiger (Richard Ihetu)
3. Thulani Malinga
4. Ike Quartey
5. Ayub Kalule
6. Sumbu Kalambay (Thanks No Contest ;) )
7. Harry Simon
8. Brian Mitchell
9.Digaan Thobela
10. Vuyani Bungu
*It's hard for me to rate Hogan Bassey cause I've only seen some small clips on him I know he beat Pep and all that but still I'd hate to rate him on that alone
Honor mentions: Wayne Brathwheit, Piet Crous, Zolani Petelo, Silence Mabuza, Kassim Ouma, Ike Ibeabuchi, John Mugabi.
Thoughts opinions?
With out a doubt The Professor Imo.Nice tread mick,Love your variety and wide range.Nice to see Mitchell on Someones list and getting mention.He was way over shadowed by the screwed up caveman policies of apartheid,spent ALOT of career batteling stigma of just being from south Africa and career was after thought to some.
Was Simon Brown born in Africa???
Mbuelo Botile.
a few mentions to parse through....Welcome Ncita/David Kotey (70's)/Jake Matlala/Terrance Alli (?)/Boza -Edwards/. Nice Mick,got the mind moving Bro!
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Re: * Who is the Greatest African fighter? *
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by eagle
How about Corrie Sanders?
The Sniper def. deserves a mention....
Love his fights against Tubbs & Rahman... Talk about back and forth. Good call eagle.
Some people don't know this but he fought Johnny Nelson early in his career (1992) beat Nelson on points.
And he did something i dont think any current Heavy could do. Beat Wladdy Klit.
CC back mate. This thread is a good change from the usual Floyd, Hatton, Cotto posts that dominate this board lately.
Oddly enough as I was rushing to make this thread I said to myself "With all the Cotto, Hatton, PBF threads going on chances are I'll be lucky if anyone replies" :D
I'm working on some good lists so look out for them. ;)
Thanks...
After reading this thread and cos im an Aussie i was thinking of starting a best Aussie fighter thread. Where u gonna do one on that cos i dont wanna stop u.
I think you should start working on it. ;)
Good call on that...
Heres 3. :)
Tszyu
Glen Kelly
Fenech
HAHA Glenn Kelly. The only man to ever be KO'd by a behind the back punch.....
Ok i'll starrt it now.
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Two fighters that were ESPN fighters in the 80's who I thought were fantastic were Cornelius Boza Edwards and Terrance Alli.
Both those guys were amazing in their own way.
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Originally Posted by violent demise#1 groupie
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Who do you consider the to be the greatest African fighter of all time?
Weeks a go I made a thread about the greatest Japanese fighter. Thanks to everyone for the replies and input I myself learned some stuff from that thread.
I did some research for the greatest African fighter here's what I came up with...
(Let me clarify that I put the list together looking at skills, opposition, titles, wins vs. loses among other things. I've also at least seen 1 full fight of each fighter plus highlights.)
1. Azumah Nelson
2. Dick Tiger (Richard Ihetu)
3. Thulani Malinga
4. Ike Quartey
5. Ayub Kalule
6. Sumbu Kalambay (Thanks No Contest ;) )
7. Harry Simon
8. Brian Mitchell
9.Digaan Thobela
10. Vuyani Bungu
*It's hard for me to rate Hogan Bassey cause I've only seen some small clips on him I know he beat Pep and all that but still I'd hate to rate him on that alone
Honor mentions: Wayne Brathwheit, Piet Crous, Zolani Petelo, Silence Mabuza, Kassim Ouma, Ike Ibeabuchi, John Mugabi.
Thoughts opinions?
With out a doubt The Professor Imo.Nice tread mick,Love your variety and wide range.Nice to see Mitchell on Someones list and getting mention.He was way over shadowed by the screwed up caveman policies of apartheid,spent ALOT of career batteling stigma of just being from south Africa and career was after thought to some.
Was Simon Brown born in Africa???
Mbuelo Botile.
a few mentions to parse through....Welcome Ncita/David Kotey (70's)/Jake Matlala/Terrance Alli (?)/Boza -Edwards/. Nice Mick,got the mind moving Bro!
Right on Spicoli..
I fixed my list several times... I was really putting this together fast and mixed in there Jamaica with Africa... :(
I had about 6 different windows open and should have been as careful as I was with my Japanese list.
You live you learn, :)
It's too bad Mitchell didn't get a lot more exposure he was a superb fighter.
Great call on Ncita..... ;)
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
Two fighters that were ESPN fighters in the 80's who I thought were fantastic were Cornelius Boza Edwards and Terrance Alli.
Both those guys were amazing in their own way.
Thanks for your input. :)
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by eagle
How about Corrie Sanders?
The Sniper def. deserves a mention....
Love his fights against Tubbs & Rahman... Talk about back and forth. Good call eagle.
Some people don't know this but he fought Johnny Nelson early in his career (1992) beat Nelson on points.
And he did something i dont think any current Heavy could do. Beat Wladdy Klit.
CC back mate. This thread is a good change from the usual Floyd, Hatton, Cotto posts that dominate this board lately.
Oddly enough as I was rushing to make this thread I said to myself "With all the Cotto, Hatton, PBF threads going on chances are I'll be lucky if anyone replies" :D
I'm working on some good lists so look out for them. ;)
Thanks...
After reading this thread and cos im an Aussie i was thinking of starting a best Aussie fighter thread. Where u gonna do one on that cos i dont wanna stop u.
I think you should start working on it. ;)
Good call on that...
Heres 3. :)
Tszyu
Glen Kelly
Fenech
HAHA Glenn Kelly. The only man to ever be KO'd by a behind the back punch.....
Ok i'll starrt it now.
Threw it in the middle to see how you reacted. ;D
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Real good list. Agreed with Nelson at #1. I might have had Harry Simon a little higher, but I admit I'm kinda biased as Im a big fan of his
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It's the Professor for sure, Nelson was a superb champion throughout his career, i would consider Quartey up next just ahead of Tiger.
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Ike Quartey is from Ghana. I remember this. I had a professor from Ghana and we talked about it. We also spoke of something like %40 of Ghanians smoke reefer all day, everyday. For a while after that I wanted to do a study abroad in Ghana. It is supposed to be a beautiful country too. I had dreams of doing nothing but boxing and smoking weed all day and all night in Ghana
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Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer
Ike Quartey is from Ghana. I remember this. I had a professor from Ghana and we talked about it. We also spoke of something like %40 of Ghanians smoke reefer all day, everyday. For a while after that I wanted to do a study abroad in Ghana. It is supposed to be a beautiful country too. I had dreams of doing nothing but boxing and smoking weed all day and all night in Ghana
Sounds good, but isnt there some civil war going on? That would totally harsh my mellow man. :rasta: :jabbing: :rasta: :jabbing:
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Real good list. Agreed with Nelson at #1. I might have had Harry Simon a little higher, but I admit I'm kinda biased as Im a big fan of his
Thanks for the input....
Harry def. had some really good wins in his career.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
It's the Professor for sure, Nelson was a superb champion throughout his career, i would consider Quartey up next just ahead of Tiger.
Right on THIRD MAN on Nelson.
What are you going by when you say Ike over Tiger? (curious)
I feel that Tiger was very skilled, fought the better opposition and the wins-loses and titles are more then what Ike did.
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Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer
Ike Quartey is from Ghana. I remember this. I had a professor from Ghana and we talked about it. We also spoke of something like %40 of Ghanians smoke reefer all day, everyday. For a while after that I wanted to do a study abroad in Ghana. It is supposed to be a beautiful country too. I had dreams of doing nothing but boxing and smoking weed all day and all night in Ghana
Accra, Ghana to be exact.... Thanks for the input Cortez.
Smoking the :rasta: and :boxingmatch: :jabbing: must be something.....
:thinking2:
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Ummm...Off the top of my Head. Nelson?
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OK. Just a couple of points from A British born Ghanian
Wayne Braithwait is from Guyana not Ghana. Guyana is in South America.
Ghana never will have a civil war.
Ghana is a beautiful country and I will get to experience it again next year for the African Nations Footy (Soccer to our US friends) tournament.
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Originally Posted by Bukom Battler
OK. Just a couple of points from A British born Ghanian
Wayne Braithwait is from Guyana not Ghana. Guyana is in South America.
Ghana never will have a civil war.
Ghana is a beautiful country and I will get to experience it again next year for the African Nations Footy (Soccer to our US friends) tournament.
A ha ha!
Thanks for the input Bukom... :)
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Real good list. Agreed with Nelson at #1. I might have had Harry Simon a little higher, but I admit I'm kinda biased as Im a big fan of his
Thanks for the input....
Harry def. had some really good wins in his career.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
It's the Professor for sure, Nelson was a superb champion throughout his career, i would consider Quartey up next just ahead of Tiger.
Right on THIRD MAN on Nelson.
What are you going by when you say Ike over Tiger? (curious)
I feel that Tiger was very skilled, fought the better opposition and the wins-loses and titles are more then what Ike did.
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Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer
Ike Quartey is from Ghana. I remember this. I had a professor from Ghana and we talked about it. We also spoke of something like %40 of Ghanians smoke reefer all day, everyday. For a while after that I wanted to do a study abroad in Ghana. It is supposed to be a beautiful country too. I had dreams of doing nothing but boxing and smoking weed all day and all night in Ghana
Accra, Ghana to be exact.... Thanks for the input Cortez.
Smoking the :rasta: and :boxingmatch: :jabbing: must be something.....
:thinking2:
I have spent some time reading about Tiger as there is little footage of him in action, his record is certainly impressive with big wins over Torres and Benvenuti, I have seen more of Ike and i like watching his fights, I think he was given a raw deal in the DLH and Forrest fights. You are probably right that Tiger is number 2 though. Tiger fought all the big names in that era and sometimes twice. Shame he died so young.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Real good list. Agreed with Nelson at #1. I might have had Harry Simon a little higher, but I admit I'm kinda biased as Im a big fan of his
Thanks for the input....
Harry def. had some really good wins in his career.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
It's the Professor for sure, Nelson was a superb champion throughout his career, i would consider Quartey up next just ahead of Tiger.
Right on THIRD MAN on Nelson.
What are you going by when you say Ike over Tiger? (curious)
I feel that Tiger was very skilled, fought the better opposition and the wins-loses and titles are more then what Ike did.
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Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer
Ike Quartey is from Ghana. I remember this. I had a professor from Ghana and we talked about it. We also spoke of something like %40 of Ghanians smoke reefer all day, everyday. For a while after that I wanted to do a study abroad in Ghana. It is supposed to be a beautiful country too. I had dreams of doing nothing but boxing and smoking weed all day and all night in Ghana
Accra, Ghana to be exact.... Thanks for the input Cortez.
Smoking the :rasta: and :boxingmatch: :jabbing: must be something.....
:thinking2:
I have spent some time reading about Tiger as there is little footage of him in action, his record is certainly impressive with big wins over Torres and Benvenuti, I have seen more of Ike and i like watching his fights, I think he was given a raw deal in the DLH and Forrest fights. You are probably right that Tiger is number 2 though. Tiger fought all the big names in that era and sometimes twice. Shame he died so young.
Cool, Third Man let me know on a update thru PM if you like when you've read up well on Tiger and to further speculate here I've seen Tiger listed at#1 in lists of African Greats.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Real good list. Agreed with Nelson at #1. I might have had Harry Simon a little higher, but I admit I'm kinda biased as Im a big fan of his
Thanks for the input....
Harry def. had some really good wins in his career.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
It's the Professor for sure, Nelson was a superb champion throughout his career, i would consider Quartey up next just ahead of Tiger.
Right on THIRD MAN on Nelson.
What are you going by when you say Ike over Tiger? (curious)
I feel that Tiger was very skilled, fought the better opposition and the wins-loses and titles are more then what Ike did.
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Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer
Ike Quartey is from Ghana. I remember this. I had a professor from Ghana and we talked about it. We also spoke of something like %40 of Ghanians smoke reefer all day, everyday. For a while after that I wanted to do a study abroad in Ghana. It is supposed to be a beautiful country too. I had dreams of doing nothing but boxing and smoking weed all day and all night in Ghana
Accra, Ghana to be exact.... Thanks for the input Cortez.
Smoking the :rasta: and :boxingmatch: :jabbing: must be something.....
:thinking2:
I have spent some time reading about Tiger as there is little footage of him in action, his record is certainly impressive with big wins over Torres and Benvenuti, I have seen more of Ike and i like watching his fights, I think he was given a raw deal in the DLH and Forrest fights. You are probably right that Tiger is number 2 though. Tiger fought all the big names in that era and sometimes twice. Shame he died so young.
Cool, Third Man let me know on a update thru PM if you like when you've read up well on Tiger and to further speculate here I've seen Tiger listed at#1 in lists of African Greats.
I have read excerpts from The life and times of a boxing immortal, what a movie his story would make.! I didn't know about the robbery against Griffith, worst decision in boxing history says the Ring at the time. Dick Tiger is a legend and was a great man.
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Oh crap,I have about 3 fights of Dick Tiger which I have not seen because,to be honest,I didn't know how good he was! A grea thread though,great for someone liek me to learn from. Super stuff as per the norm Mick,CC. Man,you look at all these African fighters,and you see a few things they had in common-superb physical specimens and dam tough as nails,all of them!
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Oh crap,I have about 3 fights of Dick Tiger which I have not seen because,to be honest,I didn't know how good he was! A grea thread though,great for someone liek me to learn from. Super stuff as per the norm Mick,CC. Man,you look at all these African fighters,and you see a few things they had in common-superb physical specimens and dam tough as nails,all of them!
CC#2252 on me Gamo and your spot on man... Danny_G said it in the 1st pg. these dudes are tough as nails and they come to fight.
You guys couldn't be more right.
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Oh crap,I have about 3 fights of Dick Tiger which I have not seen because,to be honest,I didn't know how good he was! A grea thread though,great for someone liek me to learn from. Super stuff as per the norm Mick,CC. Man,you look at all these African fighters,and you see a few things they had in common-superb physical specimens and dam tough as nails,all of them!
Dick Tiger - The Life And Times Of A Boxing Immortal by Adeyinka Makinde is only a recent release and is still available, check this out, Tiger was outspoken and a proud African and the book covers his story thoroughly both inside and outside the Ring.
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Thanks Mick for the tip on Tiger, i knew he was good but not that good, i think i was clouded by his KO loss to Foster, ( how good was Foster to have stopped Tiger in 4?) I still rank Nelson as the number 1 African fighter but i have no problems with Tiger being ranked equally alongside him .
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Who do you consider the to be the greatest African fighter of all time?
Weeks a go I made a thread about the greatest Japanese fighter. Thanks to everyone for the replies and input I myself learned some stuff from that thread.
I did some research for the greatest African fighter here's what I came up with...
(Let me clarify that I put the list together looking at skills, opposition, titles, wins vs. loses among other things. I've also at least seen 1 full fight of each fighter plus highlights.)
1. Azumah Nelson
2. Dick Tiger (Richard Ihetu)
3. Thulani Malinga
4. Ike Quartey
5. Ayub Kalule
6. Sumbu Kalambay (Thanks No Contest ;) )
7. Harry Simon
8. Brian Mitchell
9.Digaan Thobela
10. Vuyani Bungu
*It's hard for me to rate Hogan Bassey cause I've only seen some small clips on him I know he beat Pep and all that but still I'd hate to rate him on that alone
Honor mentions: Piet Crous, Zolani Petelo, Silence Mabuza, Kassim Ouma, Ike Ibeabuchi, John Mugabi.
Thoughts opinions?
*Shit load of edits made.
John Mugabi should be in the top 3. Mugabi would have eaten Ike Quartey for breakfast then and Brian Mitchell for desert.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Who do you consider the to be the greatest African fighter of all time?
Weeks a go I made a thread about the greatest Japanese fighter. Thanks to everyone for the replies and input I myself learned some stuff from that thread.
I did some research for the greatest African fighter here's what I came up with...
(Let me clarify that I put the list together looking at skills, opposition, titles, wins vs. loses among other things. I've also at least seen 1 full fight of each fighter plus highlights.)
1. Azumah Nelson
2. Dick Tiger (Richard Ihetu)
3. Thulani Malinga
4. Ike Quartey
5. Ayub Kalule
6. Sumbu Kalambay (Thanks No Contest ;) )
7. Harry Simon
8. Brian Mitchell
9.Digaan Thobela
10. Vuyani Bungu
*It's hard for me to rate Hogan Bassey cause I've only seen some small clips on him I know he beat Pep and all that but still I'd hate to rate him on that alone
Honor mentions: Piet Crous, Zolani Petelo, Silence Mabuza, Kassim Ouma, Ike Ibeabuchi, John Mugabi.
Thoughts opinions?
*S*** load of edits made.
John Mugabi should be in the top 3. Mugabi would have eaten Ike Quartey for breakfast then and Brian Mitchell for desert.
??? Considering Mitchell was a Jr.Lt weight sure.Mugabi gave Hagler hell in there fight but he had many years shaved off him in that war.With respest,No way was he any where near the top 3.
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I didn't mean literally with Mitchell. I am saying that Mitchell isn't nearly as good as p4p as Mugabi, and I put Mugabi ahead of Quartey.
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I didn't mean literally with Mitchell. I am saying that Mitchell isn't nearly as good as p4p as Mugabi, and I put Mugabi ahead of Quartey.
Fair enough but what exactly vaults Mugabi into top P4P status.
Mitchell,Put all of the politics and F!!!!d up policies of South Africa at the time aside,Mitchell made a record (at the time) 12 defenses."Draw" in unification with Tony Lopez in 1st meeting was a great classic war and Mitchell took him in the rematch...both in Lopez's hometown.
To each his own but aside from being a murderous puncher and giving Hagler some tough spots that was really Mugabi's peak.He turned his back and lost with a busted eye against Duane Thomas after Hagler fight.He did win title ko1 Jacquuot but lost it shortly there after. Mugabi VERY exciting,Huge banger and good story but I dont see him over Mitchell as P4P,no way.
Some can argue the Quartey placement vs. Mugabi..I wont.Quartey Way to inconsistent and inactive for me.But that jab could give anyone hell.
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I didn't mean literally with Mitchell. I am saying that Mitchell isn't nearly as good as p4p as Mugabi, and I put Mugabi ahead of Quartey.
I don't see how you could because except, for Mugabi giving Hagler a tough fight he never beat one single good opponent in his entire career.
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Little story about Tiger, Terry Downes at the press conference after being stopped by Dick at Shoreditch Town Hall London. The press asked Terry whom hed like to fight next, Terry replied The Fucking Matchmaker ;D
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Yeah I remember that remark Scrap, Terry was allways quick with a cutting remark
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Little story about Tiger, Terry Downes at the press conference after being stopped by Dick at Shoreditch Town Hall London. The press asked Terry whom hed like to fight next, Terry replied The Fucking Matchmaker ;D
CC#661 on me Scrap fucken classic man....
For matching him up against Tiger. ;D
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Tellboy 66, Dont want to kidknap this thread but why Downesy hasnt been honoured is beyond me. His charity work alone, I think it was one year he collected money through his charity for 26 Sunshine coaches for the Handicapped. I know first hand when he charged for an appearance it went to the Sunshine Charity. Any amatuer show he went to he always put a £100 in the kitty a great benifactor for Boxing. Even if his language was Purple at times Loved the Guy.
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Your spot on there mate He allways gave value in the ring & was a straight up guy out of it . I used to drink in a club he owned in Harlesden back in the sixtys he mixed in with punters ready to share a joke or two