Re: Are Khan and Chavez Jr the next big things?
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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If the WBO belt is fodder. What do you think of the pound for pound rankings? Bernard Hopkins has been beaten twice by Taylor. Yet still makes it to fourth in the Ring Magazine pound for pound. Taylor doesn't even make top ten!
WBO is a huge belt in the super middle weight division. So?
Benn had it then Eubanks then Collins then Calzaghe. Some might say it's the belt to have in the super middle weight division. Who says that? You? You don't count
Sorry but calling the WBO belt "garbage" is just so so so wrong. No it's not. Cuz that's what it is
Is Manny pacquiaos WBC International title garbage? Yes it is
You clearly haven't got a clue then have you. It's like Tszyu and his IBF belt, that was the big one in the division.
Beat Tszyu and you're the best in the division.
Same goes for the WBO super middle weight belt. Collins, Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe the best four super middle weights ever, all were after the WBO.
You clearly have some issues or maybe you're just plain bent!
After all IBF,WBC,WBA have all been known to break the rules and be corrupt.
you must be bent.
Roy Jones was the Super Middleweight ever. Anybody that considers Collins the best ever at anything doesn't know S*** about boxing. You don't know S*** about boxing
VD are you drunk too ? ' roy jones was the super middleweight ever ' ?????????????????????????????????? ;)
The Roy Jones that fought at 168 would have beaten the four names u mentioned convincingly.
Re: Are Khan and Chavez Jr the next big things?
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Wasp
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Wasp
If the WBO belt is fodder. What do you think of the pound for pound rankings? Bernard Hopkins has been beaten twice by Taylor. Yet still makes it to fourth in the Ring Magazine pound for pound. Taylor doesn't even make top ten!
WBO is a huge belt in the super middle weight division. So?
Benn had it then Eubanks then Collins then Calzaghe. Some might say it's the belt to have in the super middle weight division. Who says that? You? You don't count
Sorry but calling the WBO belt "garbage" is just so so so wrong. No it's not. Cuz that's what it is
Is Manny pacquiaos WBC International title garbage? Yes it is
You clearly haven't got a clue then have you. It's like Tszyu and his IBF belt, that was the big one in the division.
Beat Tszyu and you're the best in the division.
Same goes for the WBO super middle weight belt. Collins, Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe the best four super middle weights ever, all were after the WBO.
You clearly have some issues or maybe you're just plain bent!
After all IBF,WBC,WBA have all been known to break the rules and be corrupt.
you must be bent.
Roy Jones was the Super Middleweight ever. Anybody that considers Collins the best ever at anything doesn't know S*** about boxing. You don't know S*** about boxing
VD are you drunk too ? ' roy jones was the super middleweight ever ' ?????????????????????????????????? ;)
The Roy Jones that fought at 168 would have beaten the four names u mentioned convincingly.
Roy Jones at 168 may be one of the most talented if not the most gifted fighter to ever grace the ring...(And remember I said at 168...even though he was not there that long his performances were jaw dropping master pieces).....That includes PBF and possibly Robinson...at 168 Roy had it all
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kNSJm0DUEoI&feature=related
He used Pazienza as a game in this fight
Re: Are Khan and Chavez Jr the next big things?
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Wasp
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Wasp
If the WBO belt is fodder. What do you think of the pound for pound rankings? Bernard Hopkins has been beaten twice by Taylor. Yet still makes it to fourth in the Ring Magazine pound for pound. Taylor doesn't even make top ten!
WBO is a huge belt in the super middle weight division. So?
Benn had it then Eubanks then Collins then Calzaghe. Some might say it's the belt to have in the super middle weight division. Who says that? You? You don't count
Sorry but calling the WBO belt "garbage" is just so so so wrong. No it's not. Cuz that's what it is
Is Manny pacquiaos WBC International title garbage? Yes it is
You clearly haven't got a clue then have you. It's like Tszyu and his IBF belt, that was the big one in the division.
Beat Tszyu and you're the best in the division.
Same goes for the WBO super middle weight belt. Collins, Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe the best four super middle weights ever, all were after the WBO.
You clearly have some issues or maybe you're just plain bent!
After all IBF,WBC,WBA have all been known to break the rules and be corrupt.
you must be bent.
Roy Jones was the Super Middleweight ever. Anybody that considers Collins the best ever at anything doesn't know S*** about boxing. You don't know S*** about boxing
VD are you drunk too ? ' roy jones was the super middleweight ever ' ?????????????????????????????????? ;)
The Roy Jones that fought at 168 would have beaten the four names u mentioned convincingly.
Roy Jones at 168 may be one of the most talented if not the most gifted fighter to ever grace the ring...(And remember I said at 168...even though he was not there that long his performances were jaw dropping master pieces).....That includes PBF and possibly Robinson...at 168 Roy had it all
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kNSJm0DUEoI&feature=related
He used Pazienza as a game in this fight
The most impressive thing he did @ 168 was destroy then top 2 P4P fighter James Toney. Never before or since has a guy ranked so high been made to look so silly. Roy made a future hall of famer look like an amateur in their first fight.
Re: Are Khan and Chavez Jr the next big things?
He was just that Damn good...and there is really no other way to say it but that...
Re: Are Khan and Chavez Jr the next big things?
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
As long as Papa Chavez has anything to do with it, Junior's unbeaten streak will continue to grow by feasting on "no-names." After all, Papa himself feasted on 40-some tomato cans before venturing out of Mexico to fight a real fighter. And then, with the 100-win mark within sight, he sought to fatten THAT record also by fighting some dubious competition. Yeah... a chip off the ol' block.
I'll say it again, BOTH did not have an amateur career. Take any amateur boxer out there on his 30th fight or 40th fight to face any guy in the pros for a belt and see how he does. No matter what, Chavez is still a hall of famer for a reason.
Re: Are Khan and Chavez Jr the next big things?
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Wasp
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Wasp
If the WBO belt is fodder. What do you think of the pound for pound rankings? Bernard Hopkins has been beaten twice by Taylor. Yet still makes it to fourth in the Ring Magazine pound for pound. Taylor doesn't even make top ten!
WBO is a huge belt in the super middle weight division. So?
Benn had it then Eubanks then Collins then Calzaghe. Some might say it's the belt to have in the super middle weight division. Who says that? You? You don't count
Sorry but calling the WBO belt "garbage" is just so so so wrong. No it's not. Cuz that's what it is
Is Manny pacquiaos WBC International title garbage? Yes it is
You clearly haven't got a clue then have you. It's like Tszyu and his IBF belt, that was the big one in the division.
Beat Tszyu and you're the best in the division.
Same goes for the WBO super middle weight belt. Collins, Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe the best four super middle weights ever, all were after the WBO.
You clearly have some issues or maybe you're just plain bent!
After all IBF,WBC,WBA have all been known to break the rules and be corrupt.
you must be bent.
Roy Jones was the Super Middleweight ever. Anybody that considers Collins the best ever at anything doesn't know S*** about boxing. You don't know S*** about boxing
VD are you drunk too ? ' roy jones was the super middleweight ever ' ?????????????????????????????????? ;)
The Roy Jones that fought at 168 would have beaten the four names u mentioned convincingly.
yeah i agree for sure. RJJ was untouchable at 168 for a while.
Re: Are Khan and Chavez Jr the next big things?
I remember that the Brits were very offended that the boxing world was comparing Khan to Hamed
Re: Are Khan and Chavez Jr the next big things?
Nothing is similar they are both totally differnt...
Re: Are Khan and Chavez Jr the next big things?
I cant say for khan. I've never seen the guy fight. Chavez Jr. is just not that good. This is becuase he is still green and didnt have an amateur career. He may come on late. But they're just hand picking opponents for him who just have no size or skills. If he gets in the ring with Alfonso Gomez hes gonna get killed. Just watch and see.
Re: Are Khan and Chavez Jr the next big things?
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Originally Posted by BigLuke
I cant say for khan. I've never seen the guy fight. Chavez Jr. is just not that good. This is becuase he is still green and didnt have an amateur career. He may come on late. But they're just hand picking opponents for him who just have no size or skills. If he gets in the ring with Alfonso Gomez hes gonna get killed. Just watch and see.
That's right. Chavez Jr. is still green. Imagine if he did have the typical amateur career of 100+ fights.
Now, some people here totally diss Chavez saying he was not good at all and fought 100 bums. Well...
Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year 1990
WBC Super featherweight Champion September 13, 1984 - August 21, 1987
WBA Lightweight Champion November 21, 1987 - October 29, 1988
WBC Lightweight Champion October 29, 1988 - May 13, 1989
WBC Light welterweight Champion May 13, 1989 - December 8, 1990
IBF Light welterweight Champion December 8, 1990 - January 29, 1994
WBC Light welterweight Champion May 7, 1994 - June 7, 1996
Started his career in 1980 with no amateur experience and by year 1984 he was spanking guys with TITLE FIGHTS.
