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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
So Michael Vick gets 2 years in prison and Jones comes out and admits to doing the same thing. Funny how the same people that were screaming about Vick don't give a shyt about Jones.
Free Michael Vick
frozen, sometimes your posts lead people to belive your not a smart person when I know otherwise.
Growing up we had 2 chow-chows they used to fight often and we would let them fight. Once my dad got bit in the had for trying to break them up.
Vick breed and ran a circle of dog fighting, he had an established money making business where dogs died and were tortured.
The damn! club had a freakin' name.
See the difference?
The point I'm making is that Vick is getting slammed with the maximum penalty because of who he is where-as if it were just some street thug in Virginia, he would probably just get put on probhation.
Sorry man, but if you're earning however many millions per year, then you've got to have punishments that will be able to deter people from breaking the law, and a $400 fine just ain't going to cut the mustard with Mr Vick, and with probably limits on the fines allowed to be imposed, the only thing likely to stop people like Vick from that behaviour is a term in the slammer.
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
So Michael Vick gets 2 years in prison and Jones comes out and admits to doing the same thing. Funny how the same people that were screaming about Vick don't give a shyt about Jones.
Free Michael Vick
frozen, sometimes your posts lead people to belive your not a smart person when I know otherwise.
Growing up we had 2 chow-chows they used to fight often and we would let them fight. Once my dad got bit in the had for trying to break them up.
Vick breed and ran a circle of dog fighting, he had an established money making business where dogs died and were tortured.
The damn! club had a freakin' name.
See the difference?
The point I'm making is that Vick is getting slammed with the maximum penalty because of who he is where-as if it were just some street thug in Virginia, he would probably just get put on probhation.
Sorry man, but if you're earning however many millions per year, then you've got to have punishments that will be able to deter people from breaking the law, and a $400 fine just ain't going to cut the mustard with Mr Vick, and with probably limits on the fines allowed to be imposed, the only thing likely to stop people like Vick from that behaviour is a term in the slammer.
You'd think with all his money he'd have better animals to fight with though.
If I was a multi millionaire animal sadist I'd be putting on fights between lions, bears and silverback gorilla's.
Any old Joe Blow can get two dogs to fight. That's just like watching two amatuer club fighters go at it.
Where are the prestige tournaments between the best the animal kingdom has to offer?
They must happen somewhere and to me they would be a lot more entertaining.
I'd love to see a Polar Bear and a lion fight best. I reckon the bear would kick the lions ass.
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
So Michael Vick gets 2 years in prison and Jones comes out and admits to doing the same thing. Funny how the same people that were screaming about Vick don't give a shyt about Jones.
Free Michael Vick
frozen, sometimes your posts lead people to belive your not a smart person when I know otherwise.
Growing up we had 2 chow-chows they used to fight often and we would let them fight. Once my dad got bit in the had for trying to break them up.
Vick breed and ran a circle of dog fighting, he had an established money making business where dogs died and were tortured.
The damn! club had a freakin' name.
See the difference?
The point I'm making is that Vick is getting slammed with the maximum penalty because of who he is where-as if it were just some street thug in Virginia, he would probably just get put on probhation.
Sorry man, but if you're earning however many millions per year, then you've got to have punishments that will be able to deter people from breaking the law, and a $400 fine just ain't going to cut the mustard with Mr Vick, and with probably limits on the fines allowed to be imposed, the only thing likely to stop people like Vick from that behaviour is a term in the slammer.
You'd think with all his money he'd have better animals to fight with though.
If I was a multi millionaire animal sadist I'd be putting on fights between lions, bears and silverback gorilla's.
Any old Joe Blow can get two dogs to fight. That's just like watching two amatuer club fighters go at it.
Where are the prestige tournaments between the best the animal kingdom has to offer?
They must happen somewhere and to me they would be a lot more entertaining.
I'd love to see a Polar Bear and a lion fight best. I reckon the bear would kick the lions a**.
I see where you're coming from I guess....how about a giraffe against 3 gazelles? It's be like Mayweather against 3 minimumweights who don't like to trade. Score Draw on the pools i think.
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Theres good info on wikipedia on pitbulls , I read up and its definately the owners that make the dogs mean. Its a shame that people would treat a dog that way, especially mutilating a dogs tail or ears for looks... Now that I think back my one friend that had the mean pit , its ears were cut so they stand up and its tail was chopped. My friend that had the lap dog pit, his dog had uncut ears and tail.
The owners are a major factor in any dogs attitude and behavior.There are bloodlines and cross breeding with the exact purpose of generating "behaviors" in some breeds.Pitts are a great breed ,as are Rott's,Chow's and Dobe's etc.It's how there raised up,almost like kids.Ive seen first hand down here with some wanna be thugs trainning them up for combat.Thay bait them with smaller breeds,rope them up tight,withhold food..etc.etc.some wicked shit goes on.
Alot of Breeds have the ears cropped,Schnauzers,Boxers,Yorkies,etc.Alot of clinics will not do the procedure so you get some idiots actually useing dry ice and tin snips to do it themselves.Really dont think it has much to do with temperment but as you said "for the look".We do some really dumb shit for our selves with the animal as an afterthought.Tail docks are done to ALOT of breeds but It has to be done as puppys.Personally I dont care for it.
When Is this going to be booted to 'Lets get it on' topic Lol, Back to Boxing!
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I cannot believe the amount of people on this thread that do not give 2 sh*ts for another living thing that has no choice at all. I am appalled that anyone one would applaud this man and others like him. These animals are living and breathing they cannot say please do not do this to me, i know some of you are gonna say we watch boxing but we are are the humans we can say no these defenceless animals can't i live in Spain and i would not call bull fighting entertaining i think it is barbaric and so do most of the younger generation of Spaniards thank god we eventually see this sport dieing out.
Rant over :blahbla:
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Meh, you watch humans do it.
/discuss
Humans make choices to fight animals have no choice....domesticated animals can be trained to do many things and fighting is probably an easy one.
Safety is no issue in fights to the death either....let a Prime Mike Tyson continue bludgeoning Marvis Frazier until he's dead and tell me you'd continue to watch it.
Let Tommy Hearns finish off Roberto Duran after that wicked right cross
Let Ray Mercer kill Tommy Morrison
That is one of the MANY differences between boxing and fighting animals
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
Hmm...Firstly, I haven't entirely read the article as I'm at work, however, I got the impression that he was merely allowing them to fight if conflict arose?
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
Hmm...Firstly, I haven't entirely read the article as I'm at work, however, I got the impression that he was merely allowing them to fight if conflict arose?
Yup, what he's admitted to is not stepping in if some of his dogs fight each other to get the "top dog" slot in the groups of mutts he has.
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
Hmm...Firstly, I haven't entirely read the article as I'm at work, however, I got the impression that he was merely allowing them to fight if conflict arose?
Must be some kind of hard man to even let them fight i have a 11 month german sheperd who has taken a dislike to my little rescue dog and she got him outside one day and nearly killed him i was hitting her and screaming at her he was covered in punture wounds and could not walk. I was shaking and am now paranoid she is going to kill next time and i for one would not like to be in that situation again i was terrified. :'(
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Well that was the equivalent of throwing Ivan Caledron in there with Mikkel Kessler.
The dogs Jones own's would be far more evenly matched and much less likely to kill each other as they are a fighting dog.
Not that I condone dog fighting or it's supporters, but I don't think what Jones "did" was that terrible as he wasn't encouraging the fights, just letting nature take it's course if it happened.
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
this S*** is F****** disgusting, period. Theres no F****** need for people to do that....i mean what is he getting out of that?! I straight up have lost alot of respect for RJJ, this may seem pathetic to some but hey we all got our morals and this is wrong to me.
Your right it is pathetic. This is a boxing forum. Jones should be judged and respected for his boxing accomplishments. Who gives a F*** if he lets his dogs fight each other over a steak bone.
Jones brought it up
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by Missy
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
this S*** is F****** disgusting, period. Theres no F****** need for people to do that....i mean what is he getting out of that?! I straight up have lost alot of respect for RJJ, this may seem pathetic to some but hey we all got our morals and this is wrong to me.
Your right it is pathetic. This is a boxing forum. Jones should be judged and respected for his boxing accomplishments. Who gives a F*** if he lets his dogs fight each other over a steak bone.
Jones brought it up
So you think since he brought it up, it's less likely to be a serious issue and you take the view that if it was serious he wouldn't have said anything???
Thats what I'm thinking.
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by chip
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
Hmm...Firstly, I haven't entirely read the article as I'm at work, however, I got the impression that he was merely allowing them to fight if conflict arose?
Must be some kind of hard man to even let them fight i have a 11 month german sheperd who has taken a dislike to my little rescue dog and she got him outside one day and nearly killed him i was hitting her and screaming at her he was covered in punture wounds and could not walk. I was shaking and am now paranoid she is going to kill next time and i for one would not like to be in that situation again i was terrified. :'(
that's right Chip. It's only natural so you have nothing to worry about, best leave them to it so they sought it out for themselves.
Jones is a scumbag person, I said it when it came up about the cockfighting and I'm saying it now.
Responisble dog owners don't let their dogs fight. Let's be clear having them fight for 30 minutes is not some little scrap over a bone.
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
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Originally Posted by Missy
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
this S*** is F****** disgusting, period. Theres no F****** need for people to do that....i mean what is he getting out of that?! I straight up have lost alot of respect for RJJ, this may seem pathetic to some but hey we all got our morals and this is wrong to me.
Your right it is pathetic. This is a boxing forum. Jones should be judged and respected for his boxing accomplishments. Who gives a F*** if he lets his dogs fight each other over a steak bone.
Jones brought it up
So you think since he brought it up, it's less likely to be a serious issue and you take the view that if it was serious he wouldn't have said anything???
Thats what I'm thinking.
No, my comment was directed to the person who suggested that we only stick talking about what boxers do in the ring and that dog fighting, organised or otherwise is no big deal. Jones said it, it's fair game.
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FUCK MICHAEL VICK. I don't see no harm in Roy letting his dogs fight only not to there deaths.I have two dogs myself and they would fight all day if I let em'.But FUCK ROY JONES for letting his roosters fight to death if he did.
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Originally Posted by The Fightfan
F*** MICHAEL VICK. I don't see no harm in Roy letting his dogs fight only not to there deaths.I have two dogs myself and they would fight all day if I let em'.But F*** ROY JONES for letting his roosters fight to death if he did.
Please note this reply is not directed to you or anyone else personally but to dogooders in general.
Ok and I know I will probably get sadclicked to death for this but really who cares about roosters? When our governments across Europe are gassing them Jew style by the millions just in case someone might catch bird ful and become ill why all the fuss about Jones organising cock fights?
Now it's not something I'd want to watch or participate in, neither fox hunting or bull fights but I really don't see how, from the animal's point of view it's any different to being crammed into little pens and cages for their short miserable lives before being taken to a slaughter house where they enjoy live disembowlments and having their throats slashed.
My opinion is this, unless you are a vegan, do not use any animal products at all, either for clothing, makeup, furnishings etc then you can take your hypocritical opinion and F*** off.
Anyone who claims they are against killing animals for pleasure yet enjoys a nice tasty cheesburger or wears the latest Nike trainers or has a nice leather sofa can stick their opinion of their F****** a** as far as I'm concerned.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Jones admits to dog fighting? So F****** what!
That's pretty much what I think
It's Ilegal ? ins't that enough?
Doe you like dog fighting? or cock fighting?
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Please note this reply is not directed to you or anyone else personally but to dogooders in general.
Ok and I know I will probably get sadclicked to death for this but really who cares about roosters? When our governments across Europe are gassing them Jew style by the millions just in case someone might catch bird ful and become ill why all the fuss about Jones organising cock fights?
Now it's not something I'd want to watch or participate in, neither fox hunting or bull fights but I really don't see how, from the animal's point of view it's any different to being crammed into little pens and cages for their short miserable lives before being taken to a slaughter house where they enjoy live disembowlments and having their throats slashed.
My opinion is this, unless you are a vegan, do not use any animal products at all, either for clothing, makeup, furnishings etc then you can take your hypocritical opinion and F*** off.
Anyone who claims they are against killing animals for pleasure yet enjoys a nice tasty cheesburger or wears the latest Nike trainers or has a nice leather sofa can stick their opinion of their F****** a** as far as I'm concerned.
Hope this helps.
There is a difference, life serves a purpose...domesticated livestock feeds the masses.....dog fighting does what? Bull fighting is "entertainment"....and it's long and drawn out.
sure there are places that don't treat animals correctly before they are processed into food but that's what PeTA is there for.
And hunting isn't similar to dog fighting or bull fighting or anything like that, I know you didn't specifically mention that but you implied it. Hunting when done correctly is used to control populations of animals for the good of the environment and to feed people.
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Please note this reply is not directed to you or anyone else personally but to dogooders in general.
Ok and I know I will probably get sadclicked to death for this but really who cares about roosters? When our governments across Europe are gassing them Jew style by the millions just in case someone might catch bird ful and become ill why all the fuss about Jones organising cock fights?
Now it's not something I'd want to watch or participate in, neither fox hunting or bull fights but I really don't see how, from the animal's point of view it's any different to being crammed into little pens and cages for their short miserable lives before being taken to a slaughter house where they enjoy live disembowlments and having their throats slashed.
My opinion is this, unless you are a vegan, do not use any animal products at all, either for clothing, makeup, furnishings etc then you can take your hypocritical opinion and F*** off.
Anyone who claims they are against killing animals for pleasure yet enjoys a nice tasty cheesburger or wears the latest Nike trainers or has a nice leather sofa can stick their opinion of their F****** a** as far as I'm concerned.
Hope this helps.
There is a difference, life serves a purpose...domesticated livestock feeds the masses.....dog fighting does what? Bull fighting is "entertainment"....and it's long and drawn out.
sure there are places that don't treat animals correctly before they are processed into food but that's what PeTA is there for.
And hunting isn't similar to dog fighting or bull fighting or anything like that, I know you didn't specifically mention that but you implied it. Hunting when done correctly is used to control populations of animals for the good of the environment and to feed people.
Sorry Lyle, not sure if you're aware of traditional hunting in Britain, but it's a long way different from what it is in America. Basically in Britain, there are lots of large kennels which breed and keep packs of hounds specifically for fox hunting. Then, up until 2005 when fox hunting with dogs was (technically) banned, those dogs would be set loose once a month or so with a group of posh people on horses out for a day of healthy fun riding horses, looking down at peasants and killing things.
Nowadays, they have other peasants who go out and lay a scent for the dogs to follow. IF those scents go through foxes dens which might distract the dogs and horses, then c'est la vie.
Then the dogs rip the foxes and the cubs to pieces, and bring them to the posh people.
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We have dog hunting in America but it's either getting birds in the air, driving deer, treeing raccoons, possums, squirrils, (not to mention Mormons and Jehovah's Witness') or retrieving, the killing is as humane as it can be....people always demand to know why guns are used because "Deer don't have guns, they don't shoot back" etc....well God gave man brains and those brains invented the gun, bow and arrow, etc. Asking a human to not reason out a decision would be like asking a deer not to use it's ears or nose or eyes as they are much better at sensing things in the wild than human senses.
I don't know much about fox hunting sounds more like dog fighting than I would care to see or participate in.
True hunters need to have a respect for nature as without it then there would be no hunting....sometimes just going and not even shooting is fun, watching nature is entertainment...you see much more than just deer when you deer hunt....bobcats, wild turkeys, foxes, bears, hell you can see any number of things and you don't just shoot and kill everything, that's ridiculous and irresponsible......and the way Hollywood portrays hunting as pure evil is irresponsible too as without hunters the only apex preadator that routinely checks the deer population in the SouthEastern US is the CAR.
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by Lyle
We have dog hunting in America but it's either getting birds in the air, driving deer, treeing raccoons, possums, squirrils, (not to mention Mormons and Jehovah's Witness') or retrieving, the killing is as humane as it can be....people always demand to know why guns are used because "Deer don't have guns, they don't shoot back" etc....well God gave man brains and those brains invented the gun, bow and arrow, etc. Asking a human to not reason out a decision would be like asking a deer not to use it's ears or nose or eyes as they are much better at sensing things in the wild than human senses.
I don't know much about fox hunting sounds more like dog fighting than I would care to see or participate in.
True hunters need to have a respect for nature as without it then there would be no hunting....sometimes just going and not even shooting is fun, watching nature is entertainment...you see much more than just deer when you deer hunt....bobcats, wild turkeys, foxes, bears, hell you can see any number of things and you don't just shoot and kill everything, that's ridiculous and irresponsible......and the way Hollywood portrays hunting as pure evil is irresponsible too as without hunters the only apex preadator that routinely checks the deer population in the SouthEastern US is the CAR.
If these pitbulls weren't fighting each other, they would just be out eating peoples babies.
Free Michael Vick!
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
If these pitbulls weren't fighting each other, they would just be out eating peoples babies.
Free Michael Vick!
That's fucking stupid....pitbulls when they are disciplined and exercised and trained properly they are just as good as any other dog.
They do have it in their nature to be "stubborn" and not easily dominated, but once you have that over any dog you basically OWN them. Anyone can have a dog but not everyone OWNS a dog
Michael Vick was irresponsible and cruel and he earned his sentence
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by Lyle
We have dog hunting in America but it's either getting birds in the air, driving deer, treeing raccoons, possums, squirrils, (not to mention Mormons and Jehovah's Witness') or retrieving, the killing is as humane as it can be....people always demand to know why guns are used because "Deer don't have guns, they don't shoot back" etc....well God gave man brains and those brains invented the gun, bow and arrow, etc. Asking a human to not reason out a decision would be like asking a deer not to use it's ears or nose or eyes as they are much better at sensing things in the wild than human senses.
I don't know much about fox hunting sounds more like dog fighting than I would care to see or participate in.
True hunters need to have a respect for nature as without it then there would be no hunting....sometimes just going and not even shooting is fun, watching nature is entertainment...you see much more than just deer when you deer hunt....bobcats, wild turkeys, foxes, bears, hell you can see any number of things and you don't just shoot and kill everything, that's ridiculous and irresponsible......and the way Hollywood portrays hunting as pure evil is irresponsible too as without hunters the only apex preadator that routinely checks the deer population in the SouthEastern US is the CAR.
Yeah, pretty much exactly what hunting is Britain isn't to be honest.
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Dogs don't live that long anyway.
I do however have something against nations attacking smaller countries in the name of NATIONAL SECURITY which I know is for OIL. (Parts of the UN included here)
Are not people lives more important than dogs?
I would much rather go after those who want to go to war and commit war crimes.
Phuk a dog.
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Free Michael Vick and go after the real criminals!
;)
I am against the NEW WORLD ORDER and Global Westernization!
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....Oil is $100 a barrell what the fuck are you on about? If we attacked for oil, wouldn't it be cheaper now????
The true reason we attacked is probably to create a democratic police state that will help us protect Israel and maybe create a political change in the entire region......a good thought but a silly policy to carry out.
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
If these pitbulls weren't fighting each other, they would just be out eating peoples babies.
Free Michael Vick!
That's F****** stupid....pitbulls when they are disciplined and exercised and trained properly they are just as good as any other dog.
They do have it in their nature to be "stubborn" and not easily dominated, but once you have that over any dog you basically OWN them. Anyone can have a dog but not everyone OWNS a dog
Michael Vick was irresponsible and cruel and he earned his sentence
Pitbulls have attacked people and their babies even when they have been raised perfectly. To say otherwise would be a statement composed of ignorance. Not EVERY pitbull that attacks some baby was raised for dog-fighting, not even MOST pitbulls that attack are raised for dog-fighting.
Of course when these dogs are brought up to fight and are beaten by their owners, they are more likely to eat humans. The problem is that a lot of times they are raised perfectly, yet they still have a moment of aggression and attack, and if the victim happens to be some 2 year old little girl, guess what?
It's in their genetics to fight. That is their history, that is how the breed was created, for FIGHTING. I don't go to dog fights because it's not my deal, but I don't give a shit if other people are into that. I don't kill deer, either, but I don't give a shit if other people do.
I have a 3 year old daughter, and would NEVER leave her in a room with some pitbull by herself. A golden retriever? no problem. If you have kids, then you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Free Michael Vick!
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Lyle
We have dog hunting in America but it's either getting birds in the air, driving deer, treeing raccoons, possums, squirrils, (not to mention Mormons and Jehovah's Witness') or retrieving, the killing is as humane as it can be....people always demand to know why guns are used because "Deer don't have guns, they don't shoot back" etc....well God gave man brains and those brains invented the gun, bow and arrow, etc. Asking a human to not reason out a decision would be like asking a deer not to use it's ears or nose or eyes as they are much better at sensing things in the wild than human senses.
I don't know much about fox hunting sounds more like dog fighting than I would care to see or participate in.
True hunters need to have a respect for nature as without it then there would be no hunting....sometimes just going and not even shooting is fun, watching nature is entertainment...you see much more than just deer when you deer hunt....bobcats, wild turkeys, foxes, bears, hell you can see any number of things and you don't just shoot and kill everything, that's ridiculous and irresponsible......and the way Hollywood portrays hunting as pure evil is irresponsible too as without hunters the only apex preadator that routinely checks the deer population in the SouthEastern US is the CAR.
Yeah, pretty much exactly what hunting is Britain isn't to be honest.
I'm not really bothered by fox hunting at all to be honest. Surely the most humane and natural way for an animal to die is at the hands of other animals :)
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
Pitbulls have attacked people and their babies even when they have been raised perfectly. To say otherwise would be a statement composed of ignorance. Not EVERY pitbull that attacks some baby was raised for dog-fighting, not even MOST pitbulls that attack are raised for dog-fighting.
Of course when these dogs are brought up to fight and are beaten by their owners, they are more likely to eat humans. The problem is that a lot of times they are raised perfectly, yet they still have a moment of aggression and attack, and if the victim happens to be some 2 year old little girl, guess what?
It's in their genetics to fight. That is their history, that is how the breed was created, for FIGHTING. I don't go to dog fights because it's not my deal, but I don't give a shit if other people are into that. I don't kill deer, either, but I don't give a shit if other people do.
I have a 3 year old daughter, and would NEVER leave her in a room with some pitbull by herself. A golden retriever? no problem. If you have kids, then you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Free Michael Vick!
Dogs don't usually attack for no reason. Yes I am well aware seemingly normally raised dogs (breed aside because Rotties and German Shepards and so on have also mauled people) can maul and kill people.
This doesn't mean the owners raised the dogs well, they might not have been aware of signs of aggression or whatever and not being aware means they didn't treat the symptom and it remained until an attack happened. And many owners of dogs who attack simply LIE about the fact that their dog showned no signs of aggression.
I have been around a few Pit Bulls in my life an I have not feared for my well being at any minute....I wouldn't leave any child as young as 3 with any dog though. In my opinion Pits are no worse than regular Bulldogs just as stubborn and just as hyper. People who know dogs will tell you Pit Bulls can be sweet loving animals.
Why does Michael Vick need to be freed? He broke the law, multiple times...it's only right he serves his time.
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Meh, you watch humans do it.
/discuss
Because they want it to. I f you were put to fight to the death without you wanting to is a different story don't you think.
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.....if you want to equate dog fighting and boxing then Mike Tyson (amongst many MANY others) must be euthanized for prior "attacks"
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Meh, you watch humans do it.
/discuss
Because they want it to. I f you were put to fight to the death without you wanting to is a different story don't you think.
But the dogs obviously do want to fight else these events couldn't take place.
Why don't they try and organise cow fights or sheep? My guess is that if they did those animals would stand there not doing an awful lot ;)
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I am sure you could get longhorn sheep to fight and bulls to fight during the rut season but being herbivores it would be hard to motivate such actions....they don't really have to look for food or fight to bring food down....it's plants and berries, easy pickings
You could get cats to fight though I am fairly sure....at least for a little bit
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by Lyle
We have dog hunting in America but it's either getting birds in the air, driving deer, treeing raccoons, possums, squirrils, (not to mention Mormons and Jehovah's Witness') or retrieving, the killing is as humane as it can be....people always demand to know why guns are used because "Deer don't have guns, they don't shoot back" etc....well God gave man brains and those brains invented the gun, bow and arrow, etc. Asking a human to not reason out a decision would be like asking a deer not to use it's ears or nose or eyes as they are much better at sensing things in the wild than human senses.
I don't know much about fox hunting sounds more like dog fighting than I would care to see or participate in.
True hunters need to have a respect for nature as without it then there would be no hunting....sometimes just going and not even shooting is fun, watching nature is entertainment...you see much more than just deer when you deer hunt....bobcats, wild turkeys, foxes, bears, hell you can see any number of things and you don't just shoot and kill everything, that's ridiculous and irresponsible......and the way Hollywood portrays hunting as pure evil is irresponsible too as without hunters the only apex preadator that routinely checks the deer population in the SouthEastern US is the CAR.
Yeah, pretty much exactly what hunting is Britain isn't to be honest.
I'm not really bothered by fox hunting at all to be honest. Surely the most humane and natural way for an animal to die is at the hands of other animals :)
Yup, I agree, most toffs are a bunch of dumb animals.
However, allow me to refer you to Bill Bailey for the anti-(humourous) argument against hunting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHYjZ...eature=related
....yeh, but they don't chase them mounted on pigs with a pack of slavering shrews. Starts about 3:10 into the clip.
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Re: Roy Jones Admits to Dogfighting
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Originally Posted by Lyle
We have dog hunting in America but it's either getting birds in the air, driving deer, treeing raccoons, possums, squirrils, (not to mention Mormons and Jehovah's Witness') or retrieving, the killing is as humane as it can be....people always demand to know why guns are used because "Deer don't have guns, they don't shoot back" etc....well God gave man brains and those brains invented the gun, bow and arrow, etc. Asking a human to not reason out a decision would be like asking a deer not to use it's ears or nose or eyes as they are much better at sensing things in the wild than human senses.
I don't know much about fox hunting sounds more like dog fighting than I would care to see or participate in.
True hunters need to have a respect for nature as without it then there would be no hunting....sometimes just going and not even shooting is fun, watching nature is entertainment...you see much more than just deer when you deer hunt....bobcats, wild turkeys, foxes, bears, hell you can see any number of things and you don't just shoot and kill everything, that's ridiculous and irresponsible......and the way Hollywood portrays hunting as pure evil is irresponsible too as without hunters the only apex preadator that routinely checks the deer population in the SouthEastern US is the CAR.
Yeah, pretty much exactly what hunting is Britain isn't to be honest.
I'm not really bothered by fox hunting at all to be honest. Surely the most humane and natural way for an animal to die is at the hands of other animals :)
Yup, I agree, most toffs are a bunch of dumb animals.
However, allow me to refer you to Bill Bailey for the anti-(humourous) argument against hunting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHYjZ...eature=related
....yeh, but they don't chase them mounted on pigs with a pack of slavering shrews. Starts about 3:10 into the clip.
:coolclick: for the vid, I'm a big fan of Bill Bailey being from the West Country myself.
Regarding the foxes chasing mice on pigs with a slavering pack of shrews..........are you telling me that if that actually did happen that it wouldn't be the most popular Wildlife on One episode of all time?
David Attenborgough's meerkat's could fuck right off, we'd all be watching the fox and his crazy gang hunting the mice :)
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
So Michael Vick gets 2 years in prison and Jones comes out and admits to doing the same thing. Funny how the same people that were screaming about Vick don't give a shyt about Jones.
Free Michael Vick
well michael vick is an idiot that was killing dogs, betting on the fights, taking dogs across state lines to fight lied about it and kept the dead animals at his house and they's were on his dumbass for five years
...Roy simply said that he lets them fight for 10 or 15 minutes and that's it but not to the death basically i guess you can call it sparring his own dogs....and BTW ROY compared to vick in terms of their respective sport Roy's a god and vick is the dirt that he'd walk on...
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Hmm...Firstly, I haven't entirely read the article as I'm at work, however, I got the impression that he was merely allowing them to fight if conflict arose?
Must be some kind of hard man to even let them fight i have a 11 month german sheperd who has taken a dislike to my little rescue dog and she got him outside one day and nearly killed him i was hitting her and screaming at her he was covered in punture wounds and could not walk. I was shaking and am now paranoid she is going to kill next time and i for one would not like to be in that situation again i was terrified. :'(
thats honestly horrible mate. I hope you never have to experience that agen....very sad to say the least.
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Kind of an obscure question but....
Anyone here ever killed an animal????
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Kind of an obscure question but....
Anyone here ever killed an animal????
woodlice, flies, spiders but they are scum and mosquitoes but they attacked me first. Leave me alone I leave you alone.
Accidentally killed a mouse and felt terrible. Curiously I have no problem killing people ???
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I once hit a duck in the face with a less than fresh crusty roll, felt awfull for a while mind, it was no accident.
How many people have you killed Missy?
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Kind of an obscure question but....
Anyone here ever killed an animal????
Yes, I hunt and fish....and I don't do it for "the joy of killing" I can assure you.....and when I am fishing it's mostly catch and release, if I ever keep what I catch it's because we're having a fish fry
