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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by pacfan
I have a much better idea. How about betting on this: whoever loses will repeat every single word he wrote here in bold letters right after the fight. How 'bout that? C'mon kids, bet on where your mouth is. If you really believe in what you say here, you shouldn't be afraid to take the bet. Or are guys just bluffing? Go on, threaten the other guys with this bet. That should keep 'em silent. ;D ;)
im in on that idea, the losers should repeat their idiotic prediction over and over each day for a month just to show how emBARE-ASSing their mouth get them in.
I knew my brave boy would be first one to take up my challenge - you never disappoint me brodda Julius. All right, any takers? C'mon kids, this signature belt or name change or whatever, they're all chicken stuffs, and I'm pretty sure you all ain't no chickens, or are you??? Let's turn your foul mouths (excuse me!) into real solid deeds like a real man and if you do that I won't call you 'kids' anymore. 8)
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by pacfan
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by pacfan
I have a much better idea. How about betting on this: whoever loses will repeat every single word he wrote here in bold letters right after the fight. How 'bout that? C'mon kids, bet on where your mouth is. If you really believe in what you say here, you shouldn't be afraid to take the bet. Or are guys just bluffing? Go on, threaten the other guys with this bet. That should keep 'em silent. ;D ;)
im in on that idea, the losers should repeat their idiotic prediction over and over each day for a month just to show how emBARE-ASSing their mouth get them in.
I knew my brave boy would be first one to take up my challenge - you never disappoint me brodda Julius. All right, any takers? C'mon kids, this signature belt or name change or whatever, they're all chicken stuffs, and I'm pretty sure you all ain't no chickens, or are you??? Let's turn your foul mouths (excuse me!) into real solid deeds like a real man and if you do that I won't call you 'kids' anymore. 8)
;D
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by pacfan
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by pacfan
I have a much better idea. How about betting on this: whoever loses will repeat every single word he wrote here in bold letters right after the fight. How 'bout that? C'mon kids, bet on where your mouth is. If you really believe in what you say here, you shouldn't be afraid to take the bet. Or are guys just bluffing? Go on, threaten the other guys with this bet. That should keep 'em silent. ;D ;)
im in on that idea, the losers should repeat their idiotic prediction over and over each day for a month just to show how emBARE-ASSing their mouth get them in.
I knew my brave boy would be first one to take up my challenge - you never disappoint me brodda Julius. All right, any takers? C'mon kids, this signature belt or name change or whatever, they're all chicken stuffs, and I'm pretty sure you all ain't no chickens, or are you??? Let's turn your foul mouths (excuse me!) into real solid deeds like a real man and if you do that I won't call you 'kids' anymore. 8)
Pacfan,I could swear we had a pending Bet???Name change and all.I'm not big on long repetitive over posting but If we had no bet I'll meet ya ring Center for this one.
Marquez Will not be the overly assertive fighter we have seen of late vs. Pac,He will utilize all technical prowess and let all to willing Pac lead.I want alot of people to presume this will be a repeat of Rnd 1 :-X
Its a mutual and straight up contest with all balls Pac playing aggressor throughout and Anyone that is counting out Marquez as an old once was who can not still box his ass off are securing there own embarrassment.
I like Manny,An honest intense fighter who deserves buu-koo respect but I think He's coming down with a headache and visiting a clinic here. And If I am wrong, It will be written In BOLD ,It's mutual!
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
I'm keeping my original predictions to this fight. With the way people are talking in this post, either way could happen. Marquez could outbox Pac or Pac could knock out Marquez. It's a toss up!
We can keep pointing out what one fighters does that the other can't handle, but the fac of the matter is, which fighter performs on fight night!
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
I got Marquez in this one.If the Manny who showed up in his last 2 fights I think Marquez will chop him up and serve raw before 10 rounds.If the Manny who comes wanting to fight and goes after Marquez we will be in for another fight of the year set-up.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
all i can say is that if MAB scored a flash knockdown against JMM i think pac has a big chance of flooring him again. jmm still has a weak chin and not aggressive. this is besides the point tho. it doesnt matter who is better now or who is weaker now.all that matters is who shows up at fight night willing to risk it all.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
All along, I've said that my gut tells me Marquez, but in reality this fight is a 50/50 tossup. Which is why it's such a great fight... when's the last time there was a huge fight that was this evenly matched?
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
All along, I've said that my gut tells me Marquez, but in reality this fight is a 50/50 tossup. Which is why it's such a great fight... when's the last time there was a huge fight that was this evenly matched?
Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor, Miguel Cotto vs Shane Mosley, Juan Manuel Marquez vs Mab ;)
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
All along, I've said that my gut tells me Marquez, but in reality this fight is a 50/50 tossup. Which is why it's such a great fight... when's the last time there was a huge fight that was this evenly matched?
Kelly Pavlik vs Jermain Taylor, Miguel Cotto vs Shane Mosley, Juan Manuel Marquez vs Mab ;)
OK, but none of those fights were anywhere near as big from a PFP perspective as Pac-Marquez II.
Pac and Marquez are two of the top 4 PFP fighters in the world and are in a near 50/50 fight. To find the most recent occurrance of this, I think you have to go back all the way to Oscar-Tito.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by josef4334
all i can say is that if MAB scored a flash knockdown against JMM i think pac has a big chance of flooring him again. jmm still has a weak chin and not aggressive. this is besides the point tho. it doesnt matter who is better now or who is weaker now.all that matters is who shows up at fight night willing to risk it all.
Pacquiao did floor Marquez 3 times in the first fight and he still got up and IMO I think Marquez won that fight even with the drastic first round beating.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by pacfan
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by pacfan
I have a much better idea. How about betting on this: whoever loses will repeat every single word he wrote here in bold letters right after the fight. How 'bout that? C'mon kids, bet on where your mouth is. If you really believe in what you say here, you shouldn't be afraid to take the bet. Or are guys just bluffing? Go on, threaten the other guys with this bet. That should keep 'em silent. ;D ;)
im in on that idea, the losers should repeat their idiotic prediction over and over each day for a month just to show how emBARE-ASSing their mouth get them in.
I knew my brave boy would be first one to take up my challenge - you never disappoint me brodda Julius. All right, any takers? C'mon kids, this signature belt or name change or whatever, they're all chicken stuffs, and I'm pretty sure you all ain't no chickens, or are you??? Let's turn your foul mouths (excuse me!) into real solid deeds like a real man and if you do that I won't call you 'kids' anymore. 8)
Pacfan,I could swear we had a pending Bet???Name change and all.I'm not big on long repetitive over posting but If we had no bet I'll meet ya ring Center for this one.
Marquez Will not be the overly assertive fighter we have seen of late vs. Pac,He will utilize all technical prowess and let all to willing Pac lead.I want alot of people to presume this will be a repeat of Rnd 1 :-X
Its a mutual and straight up contest with all balls Pac playing aggressor throughout and Anyone that is counting out Marquez as an old once was who can not still box his a** off are securing there own embarrassment.
I like Manny,An honest intense fighter who deserves buu-koo respect but I think He's coming down with a headache and visiting a clinic here. And If I am wrong, It will be written In
BOLD ,It's mutual!
Me taking a bet??? I don't think so...cuz I usually just let my boys do the dirty jobs for me. ;D ;D ;D
All right, spicoli, first off don't expect me to spell out and type your full name. Secondly, let me tell you something...you're a real man!!! I mean what I've been trying to tell all you guys here is that if you gonna spit out lots of hot air here, standy firmly by it. It doesn't matter whether you're right or wrong, at least to me, as long as you stand by what you say. (Now if pacfan - don't get me wrong, it's still good 'ole me - begins to stop joking, that means he's serious, of course, and he means what he says.) So here, julius and spicoli, I'm giving you a brand new star, check your cc's if they mean anything to you.
Now where are the rest of the you guys here, c'mon follow suit. I don't give a shat what side you are as long as you are willing to stand by your words. I know there are lotsa guys, the usual ones, who talks a lot and you know who they are, where are they? C'mon! I'll be willing to take this heavy responsibillity and be your referee - and free at that - but kindly remember, referees are strickly neutral so they don't take bets.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
Manny wins this. The more I think about it,the more I think he'll win but I so,so so hope JMM wins.I'm still going for Manny on points. Especially the fact that he's looking awesome in training with zero distractions.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
I've been thinking Manny since it was announced.
I thought he won a close fight, although clearly didn't win as many rounds.
Mainly he's improved more than JMM to me. He just fell in love with the left hand after that first round, no body work, no right hook. A more tactical fighter now too.
And even though JMM has been incredible offensively lately he's been getting hit a lot more. Its not that he's been looking bad or anything, he's won all of his fights lately fairly comfortably-I thought he pretty clearly beat MAB-but he's looked easier to hit, look at the Terdsak fight, Jaca fight. And I thought he looked good but maybe not great against Rocky.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
I've been thinking Manny since it was announced.
I thought he won a close fight, although clearly didn't win as many rounds.
Mainly he's improved more than JMM to me. He just fell in love with the left hand after that first round, no body work, no right hook. A more tactical fighter now too.
And even though JMM has been incredible offensively lately he's been getting hit a lot more. Its not that he's been looking bad or anything, he's won all of his fights lately fairly comfortably-I thought he pretty clearly beat MAB-but he's looked easier to hit, look at the Terdsak fight, Jaca fight. And I thought he looked good but maybe not great against Rocky.
JMM has always been open to the straight left of the southpaw,but now Manny has more tools to go with it. JMM also gets marked up alot more now so I can imagine his face looking pretty badly busted. He has looked dam good in his last four or five fights and I had him beating mab comfortably too.I had JMM beating Manny the first time though.Was close.
I don't think JMM will be as offensive,although I will say this,if Manny fights like he did v MAB or the other dude he fought last year(Solis?Mind's gone blank) he'll lose. V Solis,he looked raw and 1 dimensional again and v MAB,he outboxed a guy who was there to survive. v JMM,you can't outbox the master boxer.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by The Fightfan
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Originally Posted by josef4334
all i can say is that if MAB scored a flash knockdown against JMM i think pac has a big chance of flooring him again. jmm still has a weak chin and not aggressive. this is besides the point tho. it doesnt matter who is better now or who is weaker now.all that matters is who shows up at fight night willing to risk it all.
Pacquiao did floor Marquez 3 times in the first fight and he still got up and IMO I think Marquez won that fight even with the drastic first round beating.
he did manage to get up and adjust. i give him that. but i dont think he won that fight at all. he won some rounds and the scoring contributed to the draw as well. he only tasted the left hand that time.. we will see how he responds to the two-fisted more controlled and much improved pacman
by the way guys, who is brad cooney??? he wrote an article about pac's training and how is he allowed inside wildcard??? is he press or reporter?
here is his story anyway
http://philboxing.com/news/story-14685.html
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Oscar was more than a 2-1 favorite for that fight. It wasn't viewed as an even matchup in the way that this fight is.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
I've been thinking Manny since it was announced.
I thought he won a close fight, although clearly didn't win as many rounds.
Mainly he's improved more than JMM to me. He just fell in love with the left hand after that first round, no body work, no right hook. A more tactical fighter now too.
And even though JMM has been incredible offensively lately he's been getting hit a lot more. Its not that he's been looking bad or anything, he's won all of his fights lately fairly comfortably-I thought he pretty clearly beat MAB-but he's looked easier to hit, look at the Terdsak fight, Jaca fight. And I thought he looked good but maybe not great against Rocky.
JMM has always been open to the straight left of the southpaw,but now Manny has more tools to go with it. JMM also gets marked up alot more now so I can imagine his face looking pretty badly busted. He has looked dam good in his last four or five fights and I had him beating mab comfortably too.I had JMM beating Manny the first time though.Was close.
I don't think JMM will be as offensive,although I will say this,if Manny fights like he did v MAB or the other dude he fought last year(Solis?Mind's gone blank) he'll lose. V Solis,he looked raw and 1 dimensional again and v MAB,he outboxed a guy who was there to survive. v JMM,you can't outbox the master boxer.
Manny didn't take Jorge Solis and MAB seriously that much. He had tons of distractions last year (political/scandals, training in P.I., wild lifestyle). but still managed to win convincingly.
Manny is taking this fight seriously. He's training like an animal at the wild card gym with zero distraction. The last I've heard of him trained like that was when he fought EM for the third time.
I'm sure JMM will do his best to avoid the flying straight left, that's why Pac's right hook will play a big role this time.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%, people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%,
people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
And what you need to realize is that the "new Pac" ain't going to beat Marquez by out-boxing him
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%,
people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
And what you need to realize is that the "new Pac" ain't going to beat Marquez by out-boxing him
Pac is not gonna out-box JMM... fcuk that. That's boring, I saw that against Barrera already. Pac will beat JMM the old fashion way. He'll be more accurate with his power punches this time. We're talking about barage of relentless assaults from him. And that's what I'm expecting for this fight.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%,
people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
And what you need to realize is that the "new Pac" ain't going to beat Marquez by out-boxing him
you never know man, for all we know jmm may knock pac out. I never saw floyd k.oing hatton and you may not see pac outboxing jmm but you got to admit with pacs speed, he could beat jmm to the punch all day. you have to keep in mind too, while pac may not be labled as a good defensive fighter, his body movement helps oppenents discourage from making him back up and its their own risk to come directly towards pac.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%,
people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
And what you need to realize is that the "new Pac" ain't going to beat Marquez by out-boxing him
Pac is not gonna out-box JMM... fcuk that. That's boring, I saw that against Barrera already. Pac will beat JMM the old fashion way. He'll be more accurate with his power punches this time. We're talking about barage of relentless assaults from him. And that's what I'm expecting for this fight.
He was pretty accurate the first time.........more consistency may pull it out? Cough,So if It's not loud enough the first time ,turn It up even more...And walk straight into A gloved up clinical Blender :box3:
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%,
people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
And what you need to realize is that the "new Pac" ain't going to beat Marquez by out-boxing him
Pac is not gonna out-box JMM... fcuk that. That's boring, I saw that against Barrera already. Pac will beat JMM the old fashion way. He'll be more accurate with his power punches this time. We're talking about barage of relentless assaults from him. And that's what I'm expecting for this fight.
He was pretty accurate the first time.........more consistency may pull it out? Cough,So if It's not loud enough the first time ,turn It up even more...And walk straight into A gloved up clinical Blender :box3:
You've just answered your own question. Yes, Pac's consistency WILL help him pull it out. So much for a "gloved up clinical blender" for JMM when he fought the one-eye Juarez ey? :-[
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%,
people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
And what you need to realize is that the "new Pac" ain't going to beat Marquez by out-boxing him
Pac is not gonna out-box JMM... fcuk that. That's boring, I saw that against Barrera already. Pac will beat JMM the old fashion way. He'll be more accurate with his power punches this time. We're talking about barage of relentless assaults from him. And that's what I'm expecting for this fight.
He was pretty accurate the first time.........more consistency may pull it out? Cough,So if It's not loud enough the first time ,turn It up even more...And walk straight into A gloved up clinical Blender :box3:
You've just answered your own question. Yes, Pac's consistency WILL help him pull it out. So much for a "gloved up clinical blender" for JMM when he fought the one-eye Juarez ey? :-[
To compare Juarez in any fa cite to Pac is to also believe the earth is flat.Marquez knew exactly how many dimensions Juarez was bringing (0-1) and What to exploit and was switching up aggressor/Boxing modes.I think He can understand that Juarez & Pac are worlds apart and will be in tip top form and know what to expect.Respect is key and He will respect Pac and his offense.Marquez has proven he can exploit Pac's offense and adjust when the time is right.
Beating Juarez the aggressor does not = beating Pac the aggressor,We understand that but last i checked Marquez schooled Juarez and won.How did he get 1 eye ?Pink eye?I think Manny will come out with speed and intensity coming forward...Marquez is very aware of that.I think he wants that.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
After reading all the arguments in this thread, let me give my humble opinion.
If Pacquaio will do the same thing he had done during the first round of his first battle with Marquez, he will, in very high probability, TKO Marquez around (or even before) the 8th to 10th round.Pacquaio should carefully study what he did to Marquez during that first round. He should do the same thing again. Throw some quick punches then move backwards, that way MArquez won't be able to counter. I think this will be an easy strategy for Pacquaio.
I'm just concerned with how Pacquiao's speed had declined. Many may not have noticed it but Pacquiao had really slowed down (of course, in comparison with his prior performances).IThough compared to Marquez, Pacquiao is still faster. He can use this advantage to counter MArquez. It's like giving Marquez his own dose. That way, PAcquaio will be known as the one of the best counter punchers.
Pacquaio had done the same thing to BArrera. He gave Barrera the taste of how to be defeated using "the technician way".Now he is known as a tactical fighter.
If PAcquaio performs like what he did to Barrera, he will also win by UD.
I believe MArquez will win over PAcquaio if:
1. Pacquaio will be distracted in his training( which is not happening).
2. PAcquaio gets a pneumonia one week before the fight. I just had a pneunomia and its really debilitating.
3. Pacquaio will seriously break some bones in his hand ( hope it does not happen again during the fight).
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For the fans of marquez, please continue fill up the reasons why Marquez will win over Pacquaio. O0
by the way, regarding GAME, he is not a pacquiao hater. He just supports all mexican boxers. He still owes me a bet over PAcquaio vs Barrera but I am not demanding it. He goes crazy supporting his fighters......posters beware.... hehehe;D
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
Bruce,with all due repect,but if you,or anyone else for that matter thinks that Pacman fighting like he did v MAB will beat JMMyou are wrong and it tells me you have not seen much OF JMM. Marquez would box his ears off if Manny tried that. That would allow JMM to set the pace,counter and control the action. No-one or very few fighters control an opponent like Marquez does.
I'm not saying Manny has to be some wild dog and acctack JMM non stop,but if he fights at that lacksidaiscal pace,like he did v Mab,he will lose.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
I have seen JMM fought MAB and how he fared with MAB. I have also seen how MAB fought Pacquaio. I have also seen how JMM fought Pacquaio before. JMM has not improved since that last fight. I am therefore convinced that Pacquaio using his style against MAB will win over JMM by UD.
I am predicting that pacquaio will be using counter punching against JMM this time. O0
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Marquez already beat Pac once. He'll beat him again. After March 15 I get the feeling a lot of these Pac fans will do like "Yoitsdan" did after Hatton lost. They will stop coming around
Enough said CC Bro.
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Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by brucelee
I have seen JMM fought MAB and how he fared with MAB. I have also seen how MAB fought Pacquaio. I have also seen how JMM fought Pacquaio before. JMM has not improved since that last fight. I am therefore convinced that Pacquaio using his style against MAB will win over JMM by UD.
I am predicting that pacquaio will be using counter punching against JMM this time. O0
If he trys to box and play the counter game with Marquez,He'll come up short Bruce.I worry alot about Marquez cutting up.
I do think Marquez has taken unnecessary damage mixing it up alot recently but I see him with the perfect blend with power counters early and as the fight goes along.I think Pac should go right after Marquez and look to blaze him out quickly.......... ;).Hey,Glad its finally happening ;D
