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Nope beacuse I stand by my fighter thick and thin, and I generally believed that he would beat Mayweather but at least he has the balls to fight the best and PBF should take a leaf out of Hattons book and fight the other best at welterweight, Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
still waiting for that sky sports link about Hatton willing to fight Witter and your rebuttal on Hatton only fighting guys his own natural weight even though Joe Luis Castillo was a 135lb'r :DQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
How the hell do you know if they thought the same way or not. You are getting more ridiculous all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
It's crazy how some of you guys keep going for the sake of argument and speak on speculation instead of facts. Lame
ODLH's opponent hand-picked or not, still, don't you think its nice somehow that he is not charging NORMAL expensive prices to have the fans take a glimpse of him? That he will be offering all this stuff on that weekend and all?
Not to mention the fact that Lazcano's best days were at 135 as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Sweat Pea respect your opinion you talk sense but Mayweather does not take risks at Welterweight. He could justify a third fight with Oscar for money and whatever reason he could come up with and people like Taeth would still back him. If he does not fight Cotto by next year then he has no right to be called the p4p best. Why the ring had him as the fighter of the year is a joke.
Anyone who knows even the slightest bit about Ray Robinson knows that one of the things he's most famous for is being the toughest negotiator of any fighter in history. He was famous for threatening to back out of fights if his cut of the money wasn't increased to his liking. He's considering revolutionary in that way, in that he didn't get ripped off like most fighters from that era, he made fights that made sense from a business perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
It seems like most of the time when you disagree with me, you just say "I'm crazy" or that I "don't know what I'm talking about," instead of taking the time to put together a reasonable argument that will prove me wrong.
If Cotto is still undefeated next year, then I'd tend to agree with you. As I've said many times here, if Floyd beats Oscar again, then Cotto becomes both the most worthy opponent for Floyd and the most financially attractive opponent for Floyd, so there will be no excuse not to get a deal done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Disagree with you here. Cotto and Pavlik were worthy candidates, but the Ring has absolutely nothing to apologize for in selecting Mayweather. He truly was the Fighter of the Year for 2007.Quote:
Why the ring had him as the fighter of the year is a joke.
First of all.............
How can Mayweather be avoiding Cotto when Cotto's next two fights are pretty much set? Last time I checked, Cotto was fighting Gomez, followed by the winner of the Margarito/Cintron fight. Seems like Cotto's schedule is pretty full for a while.
Alfonso Gomez - imagine what the Mayweather haters would be saying if it was Floyd fighting Gomez instead of Cotto fighting Gomez. They sure as hell wouldn't be trying to sell it off as a "keeping busy fight:rolleyes:"
Margarito/Cintron winner - Great fight for Cotto, but to think that either one of those guys would pose a threat to Mayweather is laughable. Nonetheless, it's a good move for Miguel to unify his titles so that the Mayweather vs. Cotto fight will be that much bigger ($$$), and more importantly, more meaningful.
Second of all.............
Who says that fighting Oscar Delahoya at 154 isn't/wasn't a helluva lot more dangerous than fighting Cotto at 147? Delahoya at 154 is a lot tougher that Alfonso Gomez, Kermit Cintron, and Antonio Margarito for sure.
Lastly...............
The Mayweather vs. Delahoya fight ended in a SPLIT DECISION. The last time that Mayweather fought a fight that was that close, he fought a rematch. What's wrong with giving a rematch in a close fight that appeals to 98% of boxing fans and THE REST OF THE WORLD.
If Cotto had the chance to fight Delahoya, he would do it in a heartbeat.
After reading some of the responses in this thread, it should be very clear to everybody that nobody is avoiding Cotto, especially Floyd Mayweather; but that there are a lot of delusional members of this forum that are avoiding the truth when they say crazy nonsense like "Mayweather is avoiding Cotto."
I've never seen so much negativity about a rematch of a fight that ended in a split decision.
I even remember a lot of people on here claiming Oscar won the fight. So to fight him again makes sense. especially for the dollar he'll make from it.
Even if he beats Cotto, this time next year there will be a 'Floyd is ducking Berto' thread.
He can't win....don't blame him for retiring ;D
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Originally Posted by ono
It wasn't too long ago that people were claiming that Floyd was ducking Paul Williams, too.
Kinda funny how I haven't seen that on here over the last couple weeks.
Listen man, I think you have me confused because I'm not that dude. I have absolutely crushed you on this thread but you continue to try make excuses for floyd. You are one of those guys that just don't get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
I'm not one of those guys that come in here to post on every thread to build up my post count or try to get people to give me cool clicks or whatever they have now. I say something when I have something to say. I'm not like YOU!
You try to act like you know it all every time. I don't ever talk about the past or past fighters. I'm thinking of the here and now and of course the future of the sport. I don't act like I'm familiar with every era of the sport because I'm not old enough to know things that happened that far back.
Don't you know how stories get twisted around, or have you been under a damn rock?
I'm a realist and you're a speculator. So stop looking for a way out of this verbal ass whippin I gave you.
The part in bold is where I started to laugh out loud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
At what point did u crush SWEETPEA? If anything i think he exposed your lack of boxing knowledge. Just cos u call him names doe not mean u won the argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
I posted the link a few days ago on another thread, I CBA looking round for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
JLC was a 135lb'r ?? that explains why the fight before Hatton he beat Herman Ngoudjo more convincing than Malignaggi what beat him.;)
Here it is JT.
Sky Sports | Boxing | News | Hitman ready for challenge
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
And is that picture suppose to make my cry JT :eek: :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Im not on anyones side here I see a couple of points on both sides ,
Only time will tell.
But that was a classic comment by JT ;D hahaha :-X sorry. ;D hahaha
mayweather beat hatton, fair enough, blah blah blah the thing is he did it at 147 not hatton's best weight at all, at 140 we would of seen a better fight (i'm not saying hatton would win but only that it would of been a tougher fight for mayweather. as for the mayweather cotto situation mayweather is clearly avoiding cotto. after being asked several times about cotto after the hatton fight by larry merchant, he just seemed to ignore what the questions were, he said he wanted a vacation, but is fighting de la hoya again in september, nobody really wanted a rematch between the two and is now working with the wwe, wtf ???, the fans are wanting to see mayweather - cotto happen, as a best in the world why is he not giving us the best fights by fighting the best at weltweight. i will admit hatton is ducking witter also but no one should expect hatton to fight one of the best at 140 after just suffering his first defeat which ended by tko. i would much rather have him face a average fighter first then go on to the bigger names once he has his confidence back.
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
What do you want Cotto to do wait for Mayweather and not earn a living by not fighting. Cotto would fight Mayweather in his next fight. Until then he is keeping busy and active.
exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
My lack of boxing knowledge? That just goes to show that some of you guys are too many levels below to even bother.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Stumped again? Why am i not surprised?Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
Hey Frozensolid i want to add about this above line , that is not the members that are avoiding the Truth of these Topic , is the whole world knows that ,the Sport Press , Commentators , Boxing Analist , Fans , everybody , we always talk about money , but righ now what more do Mayweather neeed? he just need to proof that he are the best in WW division p4p and the way is fighting with all competitive boxers in that Division , specially Cotto , so pardon me but is not the Members that is avoiding the Truth , i think is Mayweathers Fans......;DQuote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
INO Cotto is the only fighter at this time that can defeat PBF. Maybe Margarito, but im not sold on him yet
After ODLH (a close split desicion) and Hatton, I don't really see any big thread out there for Mayweather :-\.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
;D :lolhaha: Hey Chino i realy considere you like real,real FANATIC my friend ....;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Chino
That tells me you have alot to learn about this sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Great post.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
PBF has avoided everyone he could until the timing absolutely was in his favor. Most of his dominant wins,including Hatton,were over smaller or worn down opposition.
PBF is a classic starling who markets but doesn't fight for us.