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What was the upset this weekend Mick?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Surely not Santos ko'ing Alcine I would have thought Santos would have been a clear betting favourite going into that fight, a two time world champ and conquerer of Margarito, versus a nobody who won a belt against another virtual nobody.
I don't make the numbers....Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboWhat was the upset this weekend Mick?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Surely not Santos ko'ing Alcine I would have thought Santos would have been a clear betting favourite going into that fight, a two time world champ and conquerer of Margarito, versus a nobody who won a belt against another virtual nobody.
The fav. were Fields & Alcine and they lost therefor they are upsets.
If they are not upsets to you then congratulations you've probably made a shit load of money right? :)
Seriously Alcine was the betting favourite against Santos? I'm amazed, I thought Santos would have been an overwhelming favourite to beat Alcine?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickI don't make the numbers....Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboWhat was the upset this weekend Mick?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Surely not Santos ko'ing Alcine I would have thought Santos would have been a clear betting favourite going into that fight, a two time world champ and conquerer of Margarito, versus a nobody who won a belt against another virtual nobody.
The fav. were Fields & Alcine and they lost therefor they are upsets.
If they are not upsets to you then congratulations you've probably made a shit load of money right? :)
He was a big underdog and a nobody when he beat Travis Simms who by the way fought a stinker that night. Santos looked superb in his last outing putting an absolute beatdown on Riveria, beating him better than Simms did.
I didn't check the odds but figured Santos would have been a big favourite to win that fight, kind of like how Lucian Bute was when he took on suprise super middleweight champ Andre Berrio or how Kotelnick was when he fought Gavin Rees :confused:
I just thought it was seen as a chance for Santos to step back into the big time picking up an easy belt against a mediocre belt holder.
There has been a few upsets this year so far which has surprised you the most so far?
Few for thought
Karmazin v Buema
Quintana v Williams 1
McIntrye v Anderson
Campbell v Diaz
Bradley v Witter
Munroe v Martinez
Vera v Lee
Bundrage v Ouma
Phillips v Spinks
George v Byrd
Williams v Herrera
Latimore v Powell
Santos v Alcine
Fields v Barrett (Not for anyone who knows anything bout boxing)
Shumenov v Griffin
Margarito stopping Cotto.
I'm really upset!!!
I think Bradley beating Witter was the most shocking to me.
The second place for this so far goes to Latimore over Powell.
I dont think Santos - Alcine should be on that list . To me it was no shock cuz I always knew Santos could fight and he can bang too . Alcine had an unbeaten record but these days all that means is that he's been protected
I was surprised Paul lost to Quintana but the rematch put things right
Witter losing to Bradley I didnt see coming . Bradley was unbeaten so I assumed he was rubbish ;D I was wrong
That cracked me up, so true of this day and age though.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Lopez smashing Ponce out in a round was a shock (not a major surprise he won though)
Yeah especially since DPDL actually did land on him first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
In the olden days on fight posters they never used to put on a boxers win/loss record, they just used to put down who they had fought and that would be an accurate assessment of how good they were.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThat cracked me up, so true of this day and age though.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
I sound like a proper old man now ;D
I say Witter-Bradley. Or Karmazin-Buema (didn't see that coming). Campbell is a good fighter. I didn't think he'll win. But was not shocked by it. I picked Quintana to beat Williams. So that was expected. Lee is garbage. So it's no shock he lost. I think Spinks deserved the win. Santos-Alcine is no upset. Santos has always been a good fighter. Ouma and Byrd are shot fighter. And shot fighters lose. The rest are not high profile enough to be consider upset of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandy
Grumpy old man on the porch is my ultimate goal in life ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEIn the olden days on fight posters they never used to put on a boxers win/loss record, they just used to put down who they had fought and that would be an accurate assessment of how good they were.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThat cracked me up, so true of this day and age though.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
I sound like a proper old man now ;D
Must admit I was shocked by Bradley beating Witter but think he would do it again now.
Margarito's KO of Cotto was by far the biggest upset in terms of its impact on boxing and the status of the welterweight division.
The most suprising defeat for me though was Karmazin being KO'd by someone I'd never heard of.
At least most of the other fights we knew it was possible there could be an upset, in that fight it never even entered my head that it was going to be anything more than a routine mid round KO for Roman.
Diaz loosing to Nate
Paul loosing to Quintana
Lee loosing to Vera
Garcia loosing to Lock
Anderson loosing to McIntyre II
Ouma loosing to Bundrage
Spinks loosing to Philips
Kiko loosing to Rendall
Karmazin loosing to Bunema
Mashaba loosing to Cruz
Ulrich loosing to Barashian
Yoan loosing to Wayne
De Leon Jr. loosing to Zuniga
Hope loosing to Hall
Oliver loosing to Lopez
Aaron loosing to Herrera
Witter loosing to Bradley
Matthews loosing to Choi
Salado loosing to Miranda
Forrest loosing to Mora
Powell loosing to Lattimore
DPDL loosing to JuanMa
Sidorenko loosing to Moreno
Matsuda loosing to Espadas Jr.
Fields loosing to Barret
Alcine loosing to Santos
Cotto loosing to Margarito
-The highlighted fights were Title fights.
*No! The Cruz-Mashaba was not for a title...
Some of them ain't even upsets
Raushee Warren blowing out of the Olympics.
That should be in the robbery category.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Margarito over cotto should be in top-5 if you're talking about the bookies's opinions in vegas. Our pinoy champ A.J.banal losing to rafael concepcion is one. He was winning all rounds till his stamina gave in..and suffered his first ever loss to the llittle torrito.
Holt stopping torres with the help of a headbutt can also be considered an upset since the headbutt came in accidentally without the ref catching it. Torres was basically outpunching holt before he got clipped with a ko, imo..
He robbed himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThat should be in the robbery category.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Diaz loosing to Nate
Paul loosing to Quintana
Lee loosing to Vera
Garcia loosing to Lock
Anderson loosing to McIntyre II
Ouma loosing to Bundrage
Spinks loosing to Philips
Kiko loosing to Rendall
Karmazin loosing to Bunema
Mashaba loosing to Cruz
Ulrich loosing to Barashian
Yoan loosing to Wayne
De Leon Jr. loosing to Zuniga
Hope loosing to Hall
Oliver loosing to Lopez
Aaron loosing to Herrera
Witter loosing to Bradley
Matthews loosing to Choi
Salado loosing to Miranda
Forrest loosing to Mora
Powell loosing to Lattimore
DPDL loosing to JuanMa
Sidorenko loosing to Moreno
Matsuda loosing to Espadas Jr.
Fields loosing to Barret
Alcine loosing to Santos
Cotto loosing to Margarito
Gogoladza loosing to Kim
Lorenzo loosing to Marquez
Khan loosing to Prescott
-The highlighted fights were Title fights.
*No! The Cruz-Mashaba was not for a title...
And upsets keep piling up...
Anyone mention Raul Marquez over G.Lorenzo ? In hindsight,maybe not a huge upset but damn fun to watch ;D. Unfortunatly.Marquez has Abrahams up next.Deserves the pay day but he better bring a bat !!
Kim KO 1 Koba Gogoladze
Good shit! Spicoli...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Completely missed those def. upsets to one degree or another.
I know Paul Smith wern't very good but i still think Paul Smith losing too Steven Bendall was quite an upset or how about Ray Mercer losing to Derric Rossy.
Diaz loosing to Nate
Paul loosing to Quintana
Lee loosing to Vera
Garcia loosing to Lock
Anderson loosing to McIntyre II
Ouma loosing to Bundrage
Spinks loosing to Philips
Kiko loosing to Rendall
Karmazin loosing to Bunema
Mashaba loosing to Cruz
Ulrich loosing to Barashian
Yoan loosing to Wayne
De Leon Jr. loosing to Zuniga
Hope loosing to Hall
Oliver loosing to Lopez
Aaron loosing to Herrera
Witter loosing to Bradley
Matthews loosing to Choi
Salado loosing to Miranda
Forrest loosing to Mora
Powell loosing to Lattimore
DPDL loosing to JuanMa
Sidorenko loosing to Moreno
Matsuda loosing to Espadas Jr.
Fields loosing to Barret
Alcine loosing to Santos
Cotto loosing to Margarito
Gogoladza loosing to Kim
Lorenzo loosing to Marquez
Khan loosing to Prescott
Zahir loosing to Funeka
-The highlighted fights were Title fights.
*No! The Cruz-Mashaba was not for a title...
That was no upset. Smith had crap written all over him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Diaz loosing to Nate
Paul loosing to Quintana
Lee loosing to Vera
Garcia loosing to Lock
Anderson loosing to McIntyre II
Ouma loosing to Bundrage
Spinks loosing to Philips
Kiko loosing to Rendall
Karmazin loosing to Bunema
Mashaba loosing to Cruz
Ulrich loosing to Barashian
Yoan loosing to Wayne
De Leon Jr. loosing to Zuniga
Hope loosing to Hall
Oliver loosing to Lopez
Aaron loosing to Herrera
Witter loosing to Bradley
Matthews loosing to Choi
Salado loosing to Miranda
Forrest loosing to Mora
Powell loosing to Lattimore
DPDL loosing to JuanMa
Sidorenko loosing to Moreno
Matsuda loosing to Espadas Jr.
Fields loosing to Barret
Alcine loosing to Santos
Cotto loosing to Margarito
Gogoladza loosing to Kim
Lorenzo loosing to Marquez
Khan loosing to Prescott
Zahir loosing to Funeka
Banal loosing to Rafael
Condes loosing to Garcia
Niida loosing to Roman
Pavlik loosing to Hopkins
Mijares loosing to Vic
-The highlighted fights were Title fights.
*No! The Cruz-Mashaba was not for a title
and for our next upset calzaghe loosing to Roy Jones Jr
I'm too intoxiczted to count the number of times this was already mentioned, but I'll say Calzaghe - Hopkins.
There is one 'o' in losing. Bugs me.
My apologies for that....Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I don't know what happened.
I think I'm loosing it.
;)
Mercer is 50 years old and has been fighting MMA for the past few years, losing spectacularly every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
I don't think anyone expected him to beat Derric Rossey :confused: