Favorite prospects!?!?

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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Charlie Zeneloff


I heard he's a monster.

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You mean monstOr....you have to have the O instead of the E because it gives him street cred.



Andy Lee, sure he lost to Vera but hey he's a good fighter and he'll rebound

Jonathan Banks, he's another Manny Steward fighter and he's had just under 20 fights at cruiserweight. He's going to be a good heavyweight as well, he has 14 KO's....he's had his chin tested by former Wlad Klitschko victim Eliseo Castillo but he got up to stop Castillo in 4.

My boy from the gym here in Greensboro Richard Rivers....he got jobbed in his first fight where he completely outclassed this southpaw but got called for an illegal blow resulting in a no contest. He has trained with Jack Mosley and he's got a bright future if he keeps his head on straight.
Richard Rivers


I haven't really heard of anyone too great with the exception of Gamboa and Odlanier Solis...I hope they keep it up

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Charlie Zeneloff


I heard he's a monster.

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You mean monstOr....you have to have the O instead of the E because it gives him street cred.



Andy Lee, sure he lost to Vera but hey he's a good fighter and he'll rebound

Jonathan Banks, he's another Manny Steward fighter and he's had just under 20 fights at cruiserweight. He's going to be a good heavyweight as well, he has 14 KO's....he's had his chin tested by former Wlad Klitschko victim Eliseo Castillo but he got up to stop Castillo in 4.

My boy from the gym here in Greensboro Richard Rivers....he got jobbed in his first fight where he completely outclassed this southpaw but got called for an illegal blow resulting in a no contest. He has trained with Jack Mosley and he's got a bright future if he keeps his head on straight.
Richard Rivers


I haven't really heard of anyone too great with the exception of Gamboa and Odlanier Solis...I hope they keep it up

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Bernabe Concepcion... I know, he already has 26 fights ( 24 (13 KO) - 1 - 1 ) but people still consider him as a sensational prospect...

He has a fight this weekend and I hope he'll be successful defending his NABF super bantam title and proceed to get a shot at Steve Molitor's title next...
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Joe Greene and Peter Quillin are good picks as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMk65IkNoKw&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hAfyUjXqnM


Greene is a little short but I think his power and speed cover for his shortage in height. Quillin can be a little inconsistent but I think he's good enough all around to do very well.




Here's Jonathan Banks for anyone who hasn't seen him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zS8Wyuk0g

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Well since amat listed EVERY possible prospect I'll just type here:

See amats list. ;D J/K amat....


Heres some of my fav:

Tavoris Cloud - This dudes the truth.
'Vicious' Ortiz
'Chocolatito' Gonzalez
'Terremoto' Chavez
'La Sombra' Solis
'Kid Chocolate' Quillin
'Nightmare' Martirosyan
'Machine Gun' Jones
'Canelo' Alvarez
Devon 'Alexander The Great'
Khan
Sammy DiPace
'The Truth' Teron
Antonio De Marco
Jorge Paez Jr.
Yohnny Perez
Michael Marrone
Grzegorz Proksa
Brandon Rios

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That's that 17 year old welterweight huh?

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Well since amat listed EVERY possible prospect I'll just type here:

See amats list. ;D J/K amat....


Heres some of my fav:

Tavoris Cloud - This dudes the truth.
'Vicious' Ortiz
'Chocolatito' Gonzalez
'Terremoto' Chavez
'La Sombra' Solis
'Kid Chocolate' Quillin
'Nightmare' Martirosyan
'Machine Gun' Jones
'Canelo' Alvarez
Devon 'Alexander The Great'
Khan
Sammy DiPace
'The Truth' Teron
Antonio De Marco
Jorge Paez Jr.
Yohnny Perez
Michael Marrone
Grzegorz Proksa
Brandon Rios

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That's that 17 year old welterweight huh?

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I checked this dude out actually..

That kid is a freak..

Most boxing people in the know will tell you power is god given and Yknow that guy hits hard, hes just 17.. not even fully developed yet, filled out Yknow..

The guy in fifteen fights has gone 12 already which alota guys just wont do..

Looks real good to be fair

Has anyone ever heard of or seen Puerto Rican Jesus Rojas, a 122 pounder? This guy is awesome!! He fights on many of the major undercards promoted by Arum, which tells you what Arum thinks of him. For a few years, Juan Manuel Lopez fought on the undercards of top Arum promotions as a way to get showcased. Watch out for Rojas.

If this had been 2 months ago, everyone would have been saying Andy Lee. Now he's left with only Lyle sticking up for him :) Just an observation really, but I find it funny how we (fans) really do go for hype and what other people says once in a while.

A few European based prospects who havent been mentioned yet:

Vitali Tajbert
Gennady Golovkin

juan manuel lopez
amir khan
andre berto

Abner Mares is a bad ass, another good fighter is Jorge Linares but I dont think he falls in the range of prospect anymore.

Pretty much everybody's been mentioned. I'll throw in Argenis Mendez, 130 pounder.

I had heard amazing things about him and when I finally saw him I wasn't totally blown away but possibly just had too high expectations. Still he's got a lot of natural talent, just needs to use the jab and find one trainer and stick with him.

I was reasonably impressed with some kid named Pabon ESPN2 one night. Maybe not so impressed that I remembered his first name but definitely took notice of him. Pretty sharp fighter, maybe not huge athletic talent but a skilled guy for a prospect.

Andy Lee was being hailed as a monster who could possibly fight Pavlik by the end of the year...that all ended couple of weeks ago when he got owned.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

I was reasonably impressed with some kid named Pabon ESPN2 one night. Maybe not so impressed that I remembered his first name but definitely took notice of him. Pretty sharp fighter, maybe not huge athletic talent but a skilled guy for a prospect.

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Do you mean Jesus Pabon, another up and coming Rican? If so, that guy is good to, though I think he has a fluke loss.

Last night I watched Team USA vs Team Puerto Rico from the Liacourus Center in Philly. There was this 112 lbs fighter I believe his name was Rau'shee Williams almost certain.Anyway keep an eye on him he should be representing USA in the Olympics and my pick easily for a gold medal.His hand speed is ridiculous and skills are that of a pro.

I know he is not a professional yet but once you've seen him you will be convinced he'll make a huge impact as a pro.


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Raushe Warren my fault.This is not the best I've seen of him on the you tube broadcasts but last night he looked phenomenal.

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Originally Posted by The Fightfan

Raushe Warren my fault.This is not the best I've seen of him on the you tube broadcasts but last night he looked phenomenal.

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Yes he did and against Carlos Ortiz no less, one of Puerto Rico's top amateurs.

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Originally Posted by Rican

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

I was reasonably impressed with some kid named Pabon ESPN2 one night. Maybe not so impressed that I remembered his first name but definitely took notice of him. Pretty sharp fighter, maybe not huge athletic talent but a skilled guy for a prospect.

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Do you mean Jesus Pabon, another up and coming Rican? If so, that guy is good to, though I think he has a fluke loss.

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That sounds right but I'm not 100 percent sure.

There's a great young fighter here in Aus. He's fighting another great prospect very soon. Should be interesting. His name is Jeff Fenech and he will be up against Azuma Nelson for the Aged Care Title belt. ;D

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Theres a pretty decent kiwi fight out off OZ; Junior Talipeau a middleweight with a 11-0(4) record. Was scheduled for 10 rounds in only his 5th fight. From what I've seen of him he's one of our best prospects in awhile!

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Well since amat listed EVERY possible prospect I'll just type here:

See amats list. ;D J/K amat....


Heres some of my fav:

Tavoris Cloud - This dudes the truth.
'Vicious' Ortiz
'Chocolatito' Gonzalez
'Terremoto' Chavez
'La Sombra' Solis
'Kid Chocolate' Quillin
'Nightmare' Martirosyan
'Machine Gun' Jones
'Canelo' Alvarez
Devon 'Alexander The Great'
Khan
Sammy DiPace
'The Truth' Teron
Antonio De Marco
Jorge Paez Jr.
Yohnny Perez
Michael Marrone
Grzegorz Proksa
Brandon Rios

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That's that 17 year old welterweight huh?

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That's him...
He still has some work to do but looks good so far.
I'd like to see him fight someone who's know for durability to see how well he handles a long distance fighter.

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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K

If this had been 2 months ago, everyone would have been saying Andy Lee. Now he's left with only Lyle sticking up for him :) Just an observation really, but I find it funny how we (fans) really do go for hype and what other people says once in a while.

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You speak the truth....

Check this post out, I put it up after the Vera loss....

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Lees got talent and he's shown it in the ring. Even tonight when he lost he showed that he has tools. I can def. see Lee coming back from this.
Guess my point is that I wouldn't call this 'Exposure' cause I think Lee just had a bad night. If you check one of my posts from today I just posted that I thought Lee would loose to someone who moved well and Vera did. Lee couldn't find him but Vera did...
Let's not forget how many fighters have lost early in their careers and have bounced back to become champions and even ATG.
Hopkins, Alexis, The Marquez Bros., Carlos De Leon etc. etc. the list is endless.

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From this thread: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post484053

Argenis Mendez is one I forgot. He's one to watch for without a doubt, trained by Floyd Sr. with power in both hands and good boxing ability.

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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K

If this had been 2 months ago, everyone would have been saying Andy Lee. Now he's left with only Lyle sticking up for him :) Just an observation really, but I find it funny how we (fans) really do go for hype and what other people says once in a while.

A few European based prospects who havent been mentioned yet:

Vitali Tajbert
Gennady Golovkin

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I never saw Lee before the Vera fight and was not impressed to say the least. Although it is a bit ridiculous how coming you have to have a perfect record basically.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K

If this had been 2 months ago, everyone would have been saying Andy Lee. Now he's left with only Lyle sticking up for him :) Just an observation really, but I find it funny how we (fans) really do go for hype and what other people says once in a while.

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You speak the truth....

Check this post out, I put it up after the Vera loss....

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Lees got talent and he's shown it in the ring. Even tonight when he lost he showed that he has tools. I can def. see Lee coming back from this.
Guess my point is that I wouldn't call this 'Exposure' cause I think Lee just had a bad night. If you check one of my posts from today I just posted that I thought Lee would loose to someone who moved well and Vera did. Lee couldn't find him but Vera did...
Let's not forget how many fighters have lost early in their careers and have bounced back to become champions and even ATG.
Hopkins, Alexis, The Marquez Bros., Carlos De Leon etc. etc. the list is endless.

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From this thread: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post484053

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Lot's of fighters lose early in their careers and some in devistating fashion and they pick themselves up they get back to work and they achieve more than anyone thought possible.

When Wlad was beaten by Sanders and Brewster I was still in his corner and now he's THE champion once again which no one thought was possible.

I'm sticking with Lee because he's a southpaw, he's got quick hands, he's young, and he can obviously take a decent punch...he's got heart and he has a great trainer. It's obvious he's going to be back....just my opinion though.


Manny Steward fighters in general usually lose at least once before making it big...look at Lennox Lewis and Gerald McClellan and Wladimir Klitschko....they all came back to do extremely well

Diego Magdeleno
Keith Thurman
Danny Garcia
Hylon Williams
Edwin Rodriguez
Danny Jacobs
Karl Dargan


Those are some that I missed that have just turned pro recently. All very good with styles built for the pros especially Dargan and Garcia. Hylon I haven't seen as a pro yet, was hoping I could catch it somewhere it was on the Calzaghe-Hopkins undercard. He upset a lot of people turning pro, they had high hopes for him did USA boxing. As bad of a wrap as USA boxing gets, it is turning out some fine prospects.

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Originally Posted by amat

Diego Magdeleno
Keith Thurman
Danny Garcia
Hylon Williams
Edwin Rodriguez
Danny Jacobs
Karl Dargan


Those are some that I missed that have just turned pro recently. All very good with styles built for the pros especially Dargan and Garcia. Hylon I haven't seen as a pro yet, was hoping I could catch it somewhere it was on the Calzaghe-Hopkins undercard. He upset a lot of people turning pro, they had high hopes for him did USA boxing. As bad of a wrap as USA boxing gets, it is turning out some fine prospects.

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Yeah I think Garcia is going to be showcased on the DLH/ Forbes broadcast

Adrian Hernandez I think is an excellent prospect. He's 13-0. And already holds a win over Rodel Mayol

Who is the best up and coming fighter in boxing at the moment with under 10 fights, my vote would be
Yuriorkis Gamboa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnVK3-CPjTM

:)

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Originally Posted by jmbtandy

Who is the best up and coming fighter in boxing at the moment with under 10 fights, my vote would be
Yuriorkis Gamboa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnVK3-CPjTM

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Check out this thread. ;)

I had heard some things about Daniel Jacobs so I looked on youtube, this fight had me rolling, hysterical, where did they find this guy he's fighting?

The left hook 3: 45 seconds in ;D;D;D;D Like something out of the Matrix

Hector!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EaNykLVRkec

Gamboa- pure class
Andy Lee- he'll bounce back better than ever
couple more Irish guys
Andrew Murray 12-0
James Moore 15-0
Paul McCloskey 16-0

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

I had heard some things about Daniel Jacobs so I looked on youtube, this fight had me rolling, hysterical, where did they find this guy he's fighting?

The left hook 3: 45 seconds in ;D;D;D;D Like something out of the Matrix

Hector!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EaNykLVRkec

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Like Zelenoffs left hook when he misses the bag... ;D

no kidding, Hector has every right to be a cult hero too. Jacobs looked kinda hypnotized after that.

Just checked he's 1-2 which is a disturbingly good record to be honest. I'm starting to think maybe I should get into boxing. I've watched a lot of Teddy's pre-fight plans. :-\