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Was Hatton ranked 8?
I can understand how they bumped Mijares into the top 10 after his win but can't work out how they decided all of a sudden Marquez deserves a place above Hatton.
Hatton won his gimme fight as expected. So why the wait to add Marquez?
Rep for anyone that can solve this for me. :-\
Mijares deserves P4P based on the fine list of opponents he's beaten. How the heck B Hop is top 5 is the question we should be asking. And why the heck is Calderon not there. Other than that,not a bad list.Cotto moves up BIGTIME if he beats Margarito and looks good.
Because the rankings come out quarterly... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
ahhh nice one, Mick.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickBecause the rankings come out quarterly... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I thought they updated it quite regular.
So they already had decided to add Marquez, and in recent times Mijares overtook both of them.
(or something like that ;D)
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
oh mick dont your gonna make me cry if you carry on bullying me like this :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
do you think i honestly care what 3 bumboys who are obviously apart of some sort of mutual masturbation society think of little `ol me????
aah bless, you should get out more mick.
PS:Neg rep coming your way, its not half the bad rep you can send me......but it still lets you know your quite deluded when it comes to analysing boxers!!
The ring dropped him now Golden Boy have his signature on a 3 fight deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Mutual Masterbation Society? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
oh mick dont your gonna make me cry if you carry on bullying me like this :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
do you think i honestly care what 3 bumboys who are obviously apart of some sort of mutual masturbation society think of little `ol me????
aah bless, you should get out more mick.
PS:Neg rep coming your way, its not half the bad rep you can send me......but it still lets you know your quite deluded when it comes to analysing boxers!!
Made me laugh....but i agree with Mick and Vd etc....
You shouldn't discount a fighter when you've only seen him fight twice. I could pick 2 Ricky hatton fights to watch which would suggest he shouldn't be in the top 50.
Well I've only seen Mijares twice and that was plenty for me. I didn't even watch his fight with Munoz preferring to watch the table tennis on sopcast instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoMutual Masterbation Society? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
oh mick dont your gonna make me cry if you carry on bullying me like this :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
do you think i honestly care what 3 bumboys who are obviously apart of some sort of mutual masturbation society think of little `ol me????
aah bless, you should get out more mick.
PS:Neg rep coming your way, its not half the bad rep you can send me......but it still lets you know your quite deluded when it comes to analysing boxers!!
Made me laugh....but i agree with Mick and Vd etc....
You shouldn't discount a fighter when you've only seen him fight twice. I could pick 2 Ricky hatton fights to watch which would suggest he shouldn't be in the top 50.
I would like to say though I do recognise he has skills.
But I just can't bring myself to call anyone a fighter who dead ringers for DJ Qualls.
You mean like the 12 other members all named after Hatton? :lolhaha: You must really know something about thatQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
oh mick dont your gonna make me cry if you carry on bullying me like this :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
do you think i honestly care what 3 bumboys who are obviously apart of some sort of mutual masturbation society think of little `ol me????
aah bless, you should get out more mick.
PS:Neg rep coming your way, its not half the bad rep you can send me......but it still lets you know your quite deluded when it comes to analysing boxers!!
That's just game over really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYou mean like the 12 other members all named after Hatton? :lolhaha: You must really know something about thatQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
oh mick dont your gonna make me cry if you carry on bullying me like this :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
do you think i honestly care what 3 bumboys who are obviously apart of some sort of mutual masturbation society think of little `ol me????
aah bless, you should get out more mick.
PS:Neg rep coming your way, its not half the bad rep you can send me......but it still lets you know your quite deluded when it comes to analysing boxers!!
;D
I can post you a collection of all his fights if you like?Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboWell I've only seen Mijares twice and that was plenty for me. I didn't even watch his fight with Munoz preferring to watch the table tennis on sopcast instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoMutual Masterbation Society? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Made me laugh....but i agree with Mick and Vd etc....
You shouldn't discount a fighter when you've only seen him fight twice. I could pick 2 Ricky hatton fights to watch which would suggest he shouldn't be in the top 50.
I would like to say though I do recognise he has skills.
But I just can't bring myself to call anyone a fighter who dead ringers for DJ Qualls.
Thanks but I'm still busy wanking to that recent mechophile documentaryQuote:
Originally Posted by onoI can post you a collection of all his fights if you like?Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboWell I've only seen Mijares twice and that was plenty for me. I didn't even watch his fight with Munoz preferring to watch the table tennis on sopcast instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
I would like to say though I do recognise he has skills.
But I just can't bring myself to call anyone a fighter who dead ringers for DJ Qualls.
Hahah can i borrow it when you're done?Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboThanks but I'm still busy wanking to that recent mechophile documentaryQuote:
Originally Posted by onoI can post you a collection of all his fights if you like?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Ono what is your picture of?
:lolhaha:Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboWell I've only seen Mijares twice and that was plenty for me. I didn't even watch his fight with Munoz preferring to watch the table tennis on sopcast instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoMutual Masterbation Society? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Made me laugh....but i agree with Mick and Vd etc....
You shouldn't discount a fighter when you've only seen him fight twice. I could pick 2 Ricky hatton fights to watch which would suggest he shouldn't be in the top 50.
I would like to say though I do recognise he has skills.
But I just can't bring myself to call anyone a fighter who dead ringers for DJ Qualls.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to hattonthehammer again.
My man, you are clearly not seeing what this is about.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
- You made comments about a fighter.
- I disagreed
- I asked you a question.
- You replied & added something that was irrelevant to this topic.
You are not being ganged up by anyone. I saw your comments and I replied the same way I replied to Pacstraighlefts post. It's a discussion so quit rolling your pannies up in a bunch and debate.
Oh! wait you have no basis for this debate how can you, you've only seen the fighter twice and god knows if you've even seen the fights complete.
You've obviously dug yourself into something here that you are trying to get out of. The only society we belong to is this very forum your on, but as mentioned by VD. Judging from your name you belong to the LOOOONG list of Ricky Hatton fans. Tho a handful of them I'm cool with it looks like your from the other part that clearly can't see the sun light even if they where shot into outer space.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Thanks for the blessing... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
I should get out more?
When's the last time you traveled? In the past 5 yrs. I've been to Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Florida, Texas & NY.
My debate here is that Mijares is a superb boxer and he belongs in the P4P top 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Your debate is that he isn't and he doesn't belong.
I asked you how many fights have you seen of his.
You answered 2.
We all laughed at you and now your pissed off and trying to find a way out of it.
Just some advice to you next time you come across a thread read it a couple of times and think it through before you start posting the 1st thoughts that come into your head. Ask yourself do I make any sense here.
People read posts and if your talking out of your ass your gonna get caught. Like you did now.
PS. And just think I'm one of nicer people on here. Don't believe me ask around. :)
Ivan Calderon is undefeated, has beaten all challengers in his division, and even went up and beat "the man" at a higher weight division (Hugo Cazares). I'd say he deserves top 10 consideration.
Yeah but his semen doesn't taste as sweet as Mijares and his nuts are too small for these huggers to really get a chomp on.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by BilboYeah but his semen doesn't taste as sweet as Mijares and his nuts are too small for these huggers to really get a chomp on.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
:lolhaha:
There's several fighters that could easily take Mijares place.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Ivan being one of them. Joan also has a damn! good chance at it.
I would have no issues with Ivan being there.
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Originally Posted by BilboYeah but his semen doesn't taste as sweet as Mijares and his nuts are too small for these huggers to really get a chomp on.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Yuummy! A bit salty if I must say... :-X
Just between you and I at this point so as long as Mijares is there I could careless how he got there.
And to think that he's not loosing anytime soon to anyone at Sup. Fly. I can only see him loosing if he moves up in weight. Trust me Bilbo, Mijares will be around. :cool:
This is turning out to be "What Grosses You Out" thread. ;D
Trust me Mijares semen doesn't gross Mick out. :splurt:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
Cotto at 5, BHOP at 10, and the guys in between all move up 1. Hatton isn't too far off the list. If he beats Paulie, and BHOP hasn't fought, I'd probably put Hatton back on, unless something major with 1 of the other #11-15 happened.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMickMy man, you are clearly not seeing what this is about.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
- You made comments about a fighter.
- I disagreed
- I asked you a question.
- You replied & added something that was irrelevant to this topic.
You are not being ganged up by anyone. I saw your comments and I replied the same way I replied to Pacstraighlefts post. It's a discussion so quit rolling your pannies up in a bunch and debate.
Oh! wait you have no basis for this debate how can you, you've only seen the fighter twice and god knows if you've even seen the fights complete.
You've obviously dug yourself into something here that you are trying to get out of. The only society we belong to is this very forum your on, but as mentioned by VD. Judging from your name you belong to the LOOOONG list of Ricky Hatton fans. Tho a handful of them I'm cool with it looks like your from the other part that clearly can't see the sun light even if they where shot into outer space.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Thanks for the blessing... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
I should get out more?
When's the last time you traveled? In the past 5 yrs. I've been to Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Florida, Texas & NY.
My debate here is that Mijares is a superb boxer and he belongs in the P4P top 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Your debate is that he isn't and he doesn't belong.
I asked you how many fights have you seen of his.
You answered 2.
We all laughed at you and now your pissed off and trying to find a way out of it.
Just some advice to you next time you come across a thread read it a couple of times and think it through before you start posting the 1st thoughts that come into your head. Ask yourself do I make any sense here.
People read posts and if your talking out of your ass your gonna get caught. Like you did now.
PS. And just think I'm one of nicer people on here. Don't believe me ask around. :)
Yea...CutMeMick is one of the nicest guys on the forum..
[weak Rant]I have said in here before what i think of those P4P lists. They are all crap and based on opinion only. They are all to be taken with a grain of salt. I don't like the idea of guys getting in there and then sitting on it and doing nothing. Many who should be in there get ignored for not being popular. To me the fighters that matter are active and are making things happen in the sport. If anyone was going to create a list I think Pac should be at the top. He has been high profile for years fighting big fights and taking real challenges. He is consistent.
/weak rant
On another note though, to me Mijares comes across as a great fighter and is definitely one of the more talented ones with a bright future. When I watched him against Munoz, he was pure craft in there.
Another favorite right now has to be Jorge Linares. The guy is as smooth as silk in the ring. Artistry in motion.
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
calzaghe, mayweather and cotto have all never been made to look second best the way pac has on certain occasions.
If you ask me that naturally makes them 3 ahead of the rest, mannys been put to work against JMM and actually beaten by a couple of complete unknowners.
PS:Completely agree about linares, the guy is gonna dominate a year or two from now!!
I haven't read any posts in this thread, just seen the title. But let me make a guess.
Bilbo has been in here crying and kicking and screaming foul. Prob. even called someone a goat loving devil worshipper cuz he saw Mijares made top 10 P4P.
So before I go looking through the posts, how close was I?
Calzaghe may be undefeated, but the caliber of opposition faced by Pac is far superior to that faced by JC. The fact that he has come up short a few times against that level of competition does not mean the Pac is P4P a worse fighter than Calzaghe. Calzaghe was also made to look pretty bad when he fought B-Hop and he could have easily lost that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Deanrw
calzaghe, mayweather and cotto have all never been made to look second best the way pac has on certain occasions.
If you ask me that naturally makes them 3 ahead of the rest, mannys been put to work against JMM and actually beaten by a couple of complete unknowners.
PS:Completely agree about linares, the guy is gonna dominate a year or two from now!!
CFH: Really at no time did I think Clazaghe looked bad fighting Hopkins......esp. considering it was Hopkins. I thought it was a pretty one-sided affair, with Hopkins leading in with his head and generally being outworked.
Though it's lost its relevance a couple of pages back, Mijares Munoz was shown live on the fight network in the UK, I think it's a Canadian channel. Number 427 on the sky box.
List seems OK, definite an argument to stick Calderon in there somewhere. I think Hopkins is so high since his fight with Joe was so close, hard to drop him to the lower end of the top 20 after SD with one in the top 3.
It's an old woman who's crashed her invalidity scooter into a ditch created by road worksQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
only read the first page of posts in this thread
Have to say I am quite surprised by this. I usually find the Ring's ratings pretty accurate. Hatton may have got tagged a couple of times last week but he still won unanimously - if they were going to remove him then they should have done after the Mayweather loss.
As for Mijares I have to say I have not heard of him before now !
Calzaghe number 3 LOL
100% accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
But you forgot to mention how much his opinion about anything below Cruiserweight does NOT hold much ground. ;D
Anyone still figure out how the Hell Hopkins is still on the list, let alone that high? but Hatton got bumped off completely
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
I think the logic is that he beat Wright less than a year ago who was on the p4p list and prior to that beat Tarver who had beat RJJ who was on the p4p list. And he lost to Calzaghe who was rated very close to him on the p4p list.
Hatton while winning hasn't fought and won against a p4p fighter since Tszyu.
All Hatton did was lose to the #1 PFP Boxer in the world.... Hop lost to JT 2x before he beat Tarver who I dont think he was on the list.. I will concede Winky is a good Scalp even if Hop mugged and hijacked the win, but I guess thats Boxing politics for you:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
I think the logic is that he beat Wright less than a year ago who was on the p4p list and prior to that beat Tarver who had beat RJJ who was on the p4p list. And he lost to Calzaghe who was rated very close to him on the p4p list.
Hatton while winning hasn't fought and won against a p4p fighter since Tszyu.
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Originally Posted by JT RockAll Hatton did was lose to the #1 PFP Boxer in the world.... Hop lost to JT 2x before he beat Tarver who I dont think he was on the list.. I will concede Winky is a good Scalp even if Hop mugged and hijacked the win, but I guess thats Boxing politics for you:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
I think the logic is that he beat Wright less than a year ago who was on the p4p list and prior to that beat Tarver who had beat RJJ who was on the p4p list. And he lost to Calzaghe who was rated very close to him on the p4p list.
Hatton while winning hasn't fought and won against a p4p fighter since Tszyu.
I'm not saying that it's right, but that's really the only way it kinda makes sense to me.
It was a valiant attempt to explain the chaos which is our sportQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by JT RockAll Hatton did was lose to the #1 PFP Boxer in the world.... Hop lost to JT 2x before he beat Tarver who I dont think he was on the list.. I will concede Winky is a good Scalp even if Hop mugged and hijacked the win, but I guess thats Boxing politics for you:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I'm not saying that it's right, but that's really the only way it kinda makes sense to me.