... it's either that, or put a "hit" out on an awful lot of great boxers.
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... it's either that, or put a "hit" out on an awful lot of great boxers.
;D
It's not that Wlad isn't one of the top 10 best fighters in the world...it's just the heavyweight needs to stand alone and the p4p mess is for everyone else.
Wlad is going to thump Tony Thompson when they fight...goodnight sweetheart!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
It is in fact precisely that, if you ask me.
Wlad ain't on there cos he ain't good enough.
But why ain't Haye on that list he's the most talented of the lot? He has everything.
Haye is probably the most naturally talented fighter I have ever seen and I have seen most of the top fighters through the ages.
Outstanding fighter and P4P he would knock them all out. He would wreck old Joe Calzaghe right now and knock some sense into Bernard Popkins.
These rankings are based on names rather than ability.
Liquid don't post based on seeing the guy fight once - which is plainly obvious from your completely wrong analysis of Haye's style.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by liquidThen if and when it happens Wlad will go into your top ten. Haye is a tailor-made fighter for Klitschko. He sticks his whole head forward and crouches down- he looks like an old man. When he leaps in he'll get tied up and he'll be frustrated on the outside until he gets blanked with a straight right that sneaks in behind the jab. Haye's defense is POUROUS and while that worked with Enzo Macarinelli, Wlad will make you pay if you keep your hands down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
Wlad ain't quick enough to deal with Haye - simple as that.
Wlad has done faaaaaar more than Haye and Haye doesn't deserve to be on the list because he hasn't done anything.
Wlad is a dominant fighter in the heavyweight division, he has 2 belts 2 other guys hold 1 belt a piece and they won't come near Wlad and WHY? It would be the biggest payday they ever saw BUT they know they would lose and therefore they decide to fight chumps and Wlad has to fight his mandatories whilst Haye hasn't even fought A top level heavyweight.
The dominant fighter in his division... yes. Has accomplished more in boxing than Haye... yes. Deserves to crack the top 10 p4p... umm... not exactly. Wlad has been dominant basically because there's no quality in the division. You cannot honestly compare the level of competition in the HW division with that of the WW's, LW's, and many other divisions. None of this is Wlad's fault, mind you. But there is criteria for p4p fighters. Until a Frazier and Foreman show up to Wlad's "Ali", there is little one can say to talk up Wlad.
He's great, tho.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Haye hasn't done anything?
He unified and became the linear champion of his weight? I don't recall Wlad doing either.
Haye was in a much more competitive division than the sorry state of the Heavyweights that Wlad rules a portion of.
Wlad won't fight Haye cos he knows he'll get KTFO and the blindless supporters or armchair fans will carry on calling Wlad the man.:mad:
Yes Haye fought some really great cruiserweights....and he unified 3 belts big deal....vs Enzo "Untested" Maccarinelli.
I am quite pleased you think so highly of YOUR BOY but once he gets his shot at Wlad and Wlad knocks some sense(and humility) into David...I will be here, waiting, to destroy you with my words.
Build up Haye....build him up as high as you like....I will just get all the more pleasure out of him crashing back down to Earth.
I just don't think Heavyweights belong in the P4P to begin with.....and as for Haye, he hasn't done anything yet....I mean Pacquiao has dominated a couple divisions, Pavlik beat the undisputed/undefeated middleweight champion of the world, Calzaghe has dominated his division AND moved up to dominate a (former) great champion in Bernard Hopkins.
....David Haye beat Enzo Maccarinelli :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
He's a great natural athlete no doubt, but his skills are nowhere near some of the better fighters in the world. Talent is only what you make of it.
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
I have Wlad at #1 in my top ten ppf. I am of the mindset that nobody BUT Heavyweights belong on the PFP list.
LOL, have some rep.... Whether you were serious or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slowmotion426Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
I have Wlad at #1 in my top ten ppf. I am of the mindset that nobody BUT Heavyweights belong on the PFP list.
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Originally Posted by p4pkingLOL, have some rep.... Whether you were serious or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slowmotion426Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
I have Wlad at #1 in my top ten ppf. I am of the mindset that nobody BUT Heavyweights belong on the PFP list.
Haahaa! Thanks.
My exact feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rican