Ring's NEW Top 10 P4P... Look where Hopkins is at!!!

Go here if u doubt me Hulk

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...ic,5490.0.html

This was back when DD was known as Lion. :) But it still says DD. Read it.

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Originally Posted by gyrokai

POUND-FOR-POUND
1. FLOYD MAYWEATHER
Junior Welterweight
2. WINKY WRIGHT
Junior Middleweight
3. MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA
Junior Lightweight
4. ERIK MORALES
Junior Lightweight
5. MANNY PACQUIAO
Featherweight
6. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
Featherweight
7. RICKY HATTON
Junior Welterweight
8. DIEGO CORRALES
Lightweight
9. JERMAIN TAYLOR
Middleweight
10. BERNARD HOPKINS
Middleweight


Hopkins at number 10! Hahaha, never thought I'd live to see the day! And Mayweather finally at number 1!!! Boxing just keeps getting more surprising. I don't think Mayweather, a fighter who hasn't fought a super-fight, oustide of Arturo Gatti, deserves such a crown.

As for Hopkins at number 10...Â
When you fall, you fall hard! I didn't think Hopkins' would be disrespected that easily after a loss. ...But you know what? Keep disrespecting and you'll get Disrespected Back!

With all due respect to the "champion," Hopkins, he did beat the hell outta Jermain, physically and most of all... mentally. Jermain isn't the man to dethrone Hopkins, it's a man with talent who is willing to maul Hopkins and willing to take punishment to do it.  Either that or a super fast boxer-counterpuncher. Basically a Mexican or a Mayweather, both would have to be bigger of course.

After the Jermain fight, I thought Sugar Ray Leonard has a chance against Hopkins, but Hagler has a better chance at Hopkins. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

Put in your two cents on the NEW Ring's ratings. ;D

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Floyd is probably the best P4P. Hopkins should not be so low though, especially with one debateable "split decision" loss. Diego should maybe be a little higher around the fifth spot and why didn't they just put Taylor as #1 or #2 now because they are always screwing the P4P list up!! Everytime a fighter wins even just one big fight, they want to put him up there overnight. How is Barerra still so high?

its the old problem - Taylor beat Hopkins and so has to be ranked above him but he can't be ranked too highly just yet :-\

So if you put him in at 9 you have to put Hopkins 10th - is a bit of a drastic drop isn't it for a guy who lost a razor thin decision. But what do you do - put Taylor at 3 and make Hopkins 4 ? No :-\

And if they left Hopkins still above taylor then that would just take the piss.

Where did you see that list anyway ? I don't expect to read about Hopkins v Taylor or see a p4p list, based on its outcome, in The Ring for another couple of months ?

have they got a a website ????

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WTF..........Ricky hatton..........f*** off. The guy beat one man and hes number 7, thats f***ing disgraceful. Hopkins should be number 2.

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Yeah, Hatton should never be under Juan Manuel Marquez.

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At least marquez has earned his way into the top 10, hatton beat kostya tszyu (to me it looked like an off night) and now hes number 7. Jesus christ, these ratings are screwed up.

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Marquez earned it by one fight too. Except Hatton's undefeated and Marquez isn't. Not only that, I aslo think Pacquiao beat Marquez on points.

Hatton beat a great fighter, Kostya Tszyu, and fought every second in every round. He wasn't afraid of the incoming onslaught from the p4p power puncher. With that showing, Hatton came closer to greatness than Jermain ever was.

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Agree
I think these ratings are'nt so much based on "Stats" but on entertainment value..
Bums on seats so to speak ;)

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Yeah, I mean William Joppy, Glen Johnson, and Antwun Echols were all garbage! ::)

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NOWHERE NEAR good enough opposition to be considered ANYWHERE NEAR Sugar Ray Robinson.

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Neither were ur opponents or Eubanks either.

And ur only sayin McClennan was better than Hopkins cause you beat him, Nigel. Â ::)

If anythin, McClennan wasn't more skillfull, but he hit harder. Â

But u found dat out first hand didn't u  ;D

J/P all respect all respect for you not getting Ko'd in the first round Nige.

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You don't genuinely believe that DD is Nigel Benn, do you?

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Go here if u doubt me Hulk

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...ic,5490.0.html

This was back when DD was known as Lion. :) But it still says DD. Read it.

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LOL I've told you about 20 odd times, Purist. He's not Nigel Benn.

Barring how absurb the thought of him being Nigel Benn is, DD uses chris eubank as his avatar half the time. That alone should tell you that he's not.

I'm sure he was joking when he said he is Nigel Benn. I'm dumbfounded that you took him seriously.

Im Carlos Maussa ;)

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POUND-FOR-POUND
1. FLOYD MAYWEATHER
Junior Welterweight
2. WINKY WRIGHT
Junior Middleweight
3. MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA
Junior Lightweight
4. ERIK MORALES
Junior Lightweight
5. MANNY PACQUIAO
Featherweight
6. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
Featherweight
7. RICKY HATTON
Junior Welterweight
8. DIEGO CORRALES
Lightweight
9. JERMAIN TAYLOR
Middleweight
10. BERNARD HOPKINS
Middleweight


Hopkins at number 10! Hahaha, never thought I'd live to see the day! And Mayweather finally at number 1!!! Boxing just keeps getting more surprising. I don't think Mayweather, a fighter who hasn't fought a super-fight, oustide of Arturo Gatti, deserves such a crown.

As for Hopkins at number 10...
When you fall, you fall hard! I didn't think Hopkins' would be disrespected that easily after a loss. ...But you know what? Keep disrespecting and you'll get Disrespected Back!

With all due respect to the "champion," Hopkins, he did beat the hell outta Jermain, physically and most of all... mentally. Jermain isn't the man to dethrone Hopkins, it's a man with talent who is willing to maul Hopkins and willing to take punishment to do it. Either that or a super fast boxer-counterpuncher. Basically a Mexican or a Mayweather, both would have to be bigger of course.

After the Jermain fight, I thought Sugar Ray Leonard has a chance against Hopkins, but Hagler has a better chance at Hopkins. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

Put in your two cents on the NEW Ring's ratings. ;D

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Absolutely NO Heavyweights
Is this a First..?
Anyone..
Sign of the times 8)

I'm Horace Notice !

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POUND-FOR-POUND
1. FLOYD MAYWEATHER
Junior Welterweight
2. WINKY WRIGHT
Junior Middleweight
3. MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA
Junior Lightweight
4. ERIK MORALES
Junior Lightweight
5. MANNY PACQUIAO
Featherweight
6. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
Featherweight
7. RICKY HATTON
Junior Welterweight
8. DIEGO CORRALES
Lightweight
9. JERMAIN TAYLOR
Middleweight
10. BERNARD HOPKINS
Middleweight



Firstly, DD give Hopkins the respect he deserves (but i agree with you btw the middleweight division has been poor for a long time) but HOW IS MAYWEATHER number 1# ?? I dont understand how beating Gatti launched him into the number 1 spot. It just doesn't make any sense. Snakey, Hatton DESERVES to be up there in the P4P list, after all he should be undisputed light-welterweight king beating your favorite Tzu who was in the P4P list at about the same position. Personally Barrera is the best P4P boxer in the world and has been for a while now ( the Pacqiou fight was a one-off, Barrera didn't prepare properly by look of him that night). Other than that i think its quite a good P4P list

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Mayweather Number one is B*llshit..
On what basis? Beating a poor Gatti..?
If thats the case for him being there then Hatton should be Right up there for Beating Tszyu.
As i said earlier it obviously aint done on stats but Entertainment Value ;)

Utter B*llshit... some are fair but on the whole....... ???

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Mayweather Number one is B*llshit..
On what basis? Beating a poor Gatti..?
If thats the case for him being there then Hatton should be Right up there for Beating Tszyu.
As i said earlier it obviously aint done on stats but Entertainment Value ;)

Utter B*llshit... some are fair but on the whole....... ???

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why would he not be up there. gatti isnt the best fighter that he has ever beat or anything. he has fought a lot of vey good fighters.

hatton has beaten 1 good opponent and that fight has a lot of controversy to it.

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Mayweather Number one is B*lls***..
On what basis? Beating a poor Gatti..?
If thats the case for him being there then Hatton should be Right up there for Beating Tszyu.
As i said earlier it obviously aint done on stats but Entertainment Value ;)

Utter B*lls***... some are fair but on the whole....... ???

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why would he not be up there. gatti isnt the best fighter that he has ever beat or anything. he has fought a lot of vey good fighters.

hatton has beaten 1 good opponent and that fight has a lot of controversy to it.

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Your gonna justify TO ME NOW why you think Mayweather should be number 1.
8)

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Mayweather Number one is B*lls***..
On what basis? Beating a poor Gatti..?
If thats the case for him being there then Hatton should be Right up there for Beating Tszyu.
As i said earlier it obviously aint done on stats but Entertainment Value ;)

Utter B*lls***... some are fair but on the whole....... ???

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why would he not be up there. gatti isnt the best fighter that he has ever beat or anything. he has fought a lot of vey good fighters.

hatton has beaten 1 good opponent and that fight has a lot of controversy to it.

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Your gonna justify TO ME NOW why you think Mayweather should be number 1.
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hold on im working on my profile

i would have him or morales as my number #1 p4p

Hopkins dropping all the way to 10 is a joke!

No way Hatton should be higher than Corrales. His last 3 fights were wins over Casamayor, Freitas, and Castillo.

Morales should be # 1 or 2, but definitely higher than Winky and Barrera.

And PBF is # 1 cuz he, like RJJ used to do, wins almost every rd in almost all of his fights.

Hatton TKO Tyzu round 11. Whats controversial about it (Tyzu Quote) "The better man won". Hopkins-Taylor is controversial, Hatton-Tyzu is not

1-hit wonder, you get a cool click. Thanx for backing me up about NORTHSIDE the other day.

Cheers Bamboey ;D

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It's a disgrace to even have Hopkins in the top 10, I would never of had that guy near my top 10. 160 has been the worst division in boxing by miles for 10 years now.

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Haha. Sure whatever, MW just hasn't been the same since Eubanks retired :'( ::) Hopkins should still be #1, he f***in won the FIGHT!!!!

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When's somebody going to ban this idiot?

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yeh right he's nuts.hpokins will win the remtach and become number one again

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thats bulls*** he should be at least be #3 and thats at LEAST

boxing needs some kind of commison the can stop s*** like that from happinging, and i think the fight was a draw, who ever scored the 12 round for hopkins should be asked to resign as a judge, beacuse thes f***ing wrong who ever wrote the for the ring is a f***ing idoit and should be culled!

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You're on crack. Bnard did nothing but run the first 8 rounds. If you're going to try to play the rope a dope you have to knock the guy out. I hear all these punks talking about the 12 round what about the idiot that gave Hopkins round 2 of the first 4 rounds. Hopkins is nothing but an old man that can't fight a whole fight anymore so he tries to shorten the fights by running. He had a great run but now he is tarnishing everything he has done by crying and protesting now like the punk jailbird he really is. My best bet is after the rematch Bnard takes his money spends it stupidly (like he always does) and we'll see him living on the street like the bum he is in 10 years. The only reason he is protesting the fight is because he doesn't want to have to face Taylor again to get his belts back because he knows he can't win. Taylor is 26 and only going to get better, Hopkins has already past his peak he will not be any better tommorrow than he was yesterday.

You gotta put Taylor over Hopkins, and you can't put Taylor at #1, so I agree.

As a matter of fact, looking at the list I can't see anything I would do differently.

As much as I hate the guy but love the skills he should be at #2 he had like 5 superfights and defended his belts 20 times and lost to a Split decision really not fair.

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As much as I hate the guy but love the skills he should be at #2 he had like 5 superfights and defended his belts 20 times and lost to a Split decision really not fair.

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Also I would like to add that if Morales, Paquiao, Corrales and some others are in that top 10 KT should also be there.