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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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Oh come on Ono he is a cocky shite and you know it are you forgetting his BS about beating Floyd Mayweather Jr in a 4 round bout ? or his other ridiculous comments ? and as for Witter and Paulie who likes them on this forum ? they getting hated on constantly and have the piss taken out of em all the time so im not sure what your getting at there.
I'm not so sure he is cocky. He's confident. If he believes he'd beat Mayweather in a 4 round fight then fair play to him. He wouldn't....but still. He has belief like every other fighter. You can't dislike him for being cocky when Mayweather is one of your favourite fighters surely?
As for Witter there were shit loads of Witter fan boys on here before he got his arse handed to him by Bradley.
I don't really like Floyd Mayweather's attitude outside the ring but i know its all BS because he always give his opponents respect after the fight but im more a fan of skills than personality Ono.........
I understand about being confident im always confident before i fight but i don't have to shout about it and let everyone know i just keep it inside but thats just my opinion everyone is different Ono.
Stop putting Ono on the end of every sentence.
Your Jedi Mind tricks aren't going to work on me this time.....ICE
Yeah suppose he's not everyone's cup of tea. Each to their own and all that. Just surprised that a few more Brits would rather see him brutally ko'd than be a world champion. Maybe they are going for a realistic approach :D
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
There has been a thread on here before that brought up the jab that staggered Khan, that would be a huge concern. Those of us stateside that saw Prescott vs. Abril, saw that Prescott's punches are in fact not the most damaging. I don't know about you, but If I was Prescott I prolly wouldn't want to fight Khan again unless there were huge amounts of cash involved, instead I would use it to try and negotiate a fight with Katsidis and move towards to the top of the division.
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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I'm not so sure he is cocky. He's confident. If he believes he'd beat Mayweather in a 4 round fight then fair play to him. He wouldn't....but still. He has belief like every other fighter. You can't dislike him for being cocky when Mayweather is one of your favourite fighters surely?
As for Witter there were shit loads of Witter fan boys on here before he got his arse handed to him by Bradley.
I don't really like Floyd Mayweather's attitude outside the ring but i know its all BS because he always give his opponents respect after the fight but im more a fan of skills than personality Ono.........
I understand about being confident im always confident before i fight but i don't have to shout about it and let everyone know i just keep it inside but thats just my opinion everyone is different Ono.
Stop putting Ono on the end of every sentence.
Your Jedi Mind tricks aren't going to work on me this time.....ICE
Yeah suppose he's not everyone's cup of tea. Each to their own and all that. Just surprised that a few more Brits would rather see him brutally ko'd than be a world champion. Maybe they are going for a realistic approach :D
I'd like to see him go and make Roberto Duran's career at lightweight look average. I really don't wish any British fighter to get KO'd (apart from Fraudley but come on, who didn't :) ) but let's face it he's got no chin. Predicting what will happen anytime he fights in world class -- obviously he's going to get KO'd again -- is not the same thing as wanting to see him KO'd, it's just a rational reaction to the fact that he's got a glass jaw.
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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Amir Khan proved muslims dont drink . . . . . Saturday night he didnt even get a fu**ing round in !!!
That's funny bro, great stuff;D
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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ono
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ICB
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ono
I'm not so sure he is cocky. He's confident. If he believes he'd beat Mayweather in a 4 round fight then fair play to him. He wouldn't....but still. He has belief like every other fighter. You can't dislike him for being cocky when Mayweather is one of your favourite fighters surely?
As for Witter there were shit loads of Witter fan boys on here before he got his arse handed to him by Bradley.
I don't really like Floyd Mayweather's attitude outside the ring but i know its all BS because he always give his opponents respect after the fight but im more a fan of skills than personality Ono.........
I understand about being confident im always confident before i fight but i don't have to shout about it and let everyone know i just keep it inside but thats just my opinion everyone is different Ono.
Stop putting Ono on the end of every sentence.
Your Jedi Mind tricks aren't going to work on me this time.....ICE
Yeah suppose he's not everyone's cup of tea. Each to their own and all that. Just surprised that a few more Brits would rather see him brutally ko'd than be a world champion. Maybe they are going for a realistic approach :D
I'm still backing him Ono, he's an exciting fighter to watch and is young enough to bounce back. He needs to work on his defence but he's by no means done. He can still be a world champ, there have been plenty of fighters with weak chins who have won belts, a lot will depend on Frank's ability to pick the right opponents.
But I really hope he does it, he's probably the most exciting fighter in the uk and with Hatton and Calzaghe soon to retire we need him to do well for the good of british boxing.
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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ono
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ICB
I don't really like Floyd Mayweather's attitude outside the ring but i know its all BS because he always give his opponents respect after the fight but im more a fan of skills than personality Ono.........
I understand about being confident im always confident before i fight but i don't have to shout about it and let everyone know i just keep it inside but thats just my opinion everyone is different Ono.
Stop putting Ono on the end of every sentence.
Your Jedi Mind tricks aren't going to work on me this time.....ICE
Yeah suppose he's not everyone's cup of tea. Each to their own and all that. Just surprised that a few more Brits would rather see him brutally ko'd than be a world champion. Maybe they are going for a realistic approach :D
I'm still backing him Ono, he's an exciting fighter to watch and is young enough to bounce back. He needs to work on his defence but he's by no means done. He can still be a world champ, there have been plenty of fighters with weak chins who have won belts, a lot will depend on Frank's ability to pick the right opponents.
But I really hope he does it, he's probably the most exciting fighter in the uk and with Hatton and Calzaghe soon to retire we need him to do well for the good of british boxing.
The Lightweight division is far too strong for him at the moment Bilbo he should have moved up and faced Paulie he would of had a good chance at picking up a belt but now it looks like Hatton will beat Paulie it looks tough for Khan to win any belt at the moment.
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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ICB
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ono
Stop putting Ono on the end of every sentence.
Your Jedi Mind tricks aren't going to work on me this time.....ICE
Yeah suppose he's not everyone's cup of tea. Each to their own and all that. Just surprised that a few more Brits would rather see him brutally ko'd than be a world champion. Maybe they are going for a realistic approach :D
I'm still backing him Ono, he's an exciting fighter to watch and is young enough to bounce back. He needs to work on his defence but he's by no means done. He can still be a world champ, there have been plenty of fighters with weak chins who have won belts, a lot will depend on Frank's ability to pick the right opponents.
But I really hope he does it, he's probably the most exciting fighter in the uk and with Hatton and Calzaghe soon to retire we need him to do well for the good of british boxing.
The Lightweight division is far too strong for him at the moment Bilbo he should have moved up and faced Paulie he would of had a good chance at picking up a belt but now it looks like Hatton will beat Paulie it looks tough for Khan to win any belt at the moment.
He's only 21 Ice, realisitically it's going to be another couple years now and most likely Casmayor, Pacquaio, Marquez, Campbell and Barrera (if his comeback is succesful) will most likely all be gone.
It's likely Khan will be able to pick between lightweight and junior welter and right now junior welter is a wasteland and will likely remain so for a while.
Khan won't be a million miles away from the likes of Kotelnick and Holt in a couple years.
Don't give up on him just yet, I'd still say he's practically certain to win at least one belt.
As someone said before if Cook, Arthuer and Rees can do it, so can Khan, especially with Frank Warren behind him.
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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I'm still backing him Ono, he's an exciting fighter to watch and is young enough to bounce back. He needs to work on his defence but he's by no means done. He can still be a world champ, there have been plenty of fighters with weak chins who have won belts, a lot will depend on Frank's ability to pick the right opponents.
But I really hope he does it, he's probably the most exciting fighter in the uk and with Hatton and Calzaghe soon to retire we need him to do well for the good of british boxing.
The Lightweight division is far too strong for him at the moment Bilbo he should have moved up and faced Paulie he would of had a good chance at picking up a belt but now it looks like Hatton will beat Paulie it looks tough for Khan to win any belt at the moment.
He's only 21 Ice, realisitically it's going to be another couple years now and most likely Casmayor, Pacquaio, Marquez, Campbell and Barrera (if his comeback is succesful) will most likely all be gone.
It's likely Khan will be able to pick between lightweight and junior welter and right now junior welter is a wasteland and will likely remain so for a while.
Khan won't be a million miles away from the likes of Kotelnick and Holt in a couple years.
Don't give up on him just yet, I'd still say he's practically certain to win at least one belt.
As someone said before if Cook, Arthuer and Rees can do it, so can Khan, especially with Frank Warren behind him.
I believe that was me
Shit you could write a very long list of fighters who shouldn't really be good enough to have held world titles.
Just in and around 130-140 you have Arthur, Cook, Witter, Rees, Kotelnik, Holt, M'Baye, Maussa, Harris, Urango.
Bit strong to say he has no chance when all of the above have managed it.
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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The Lightweight division is far too strong for him at the moment Bilbo he should have moved up and faced Paulie he would of had a good chance at picking up a belt but now it looks like Hatton will beat Paulie it looks tough for Khan to win any belt at the moment.
He's only 21 Ice, realisitically it's going to be another couple years now and most likely Casmayor, Pacquaio, Marquez, Campbell and Barrera (if his comeback is succesful) will most likely all be gone.
It's likely Khan will be able to pick between lightweight and junior welter and right now junior welter is a wasteland and will likely remain so for a while.
Khan won't be a million miles away from the likes of Kotelnick and Holt in a couple years.
Don't give up on him just yet, I'd still say he's practically certain to win at least one belt.
As someone said before if Cook, Arthuer and Rees can do it, so can Khan, especially with Frank Warren behind him.
I believe that was me
Shit you could write a very long list of fighters who shouldn't really be good enough to have held world titles.
Just in and around 130-140 you have Arthur, Cook, Witter, Rees, Kotelnik, Holt, M'Baye, Maussa, Harris, Urango.
Bit strong to say he has no chance when all of the above have managed it.
Exactly he has more talent than all of that lot, if he can work on his defense and if another couple years make him a bit more durable then he'll have a great chance.
His chin is his only real weakness imo, in every other category he competes with everybody pretty much.
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
...in order to have a rematch there should be a first match. Khan just leave the guy alone and move on.
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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He's only 21 Ice, realisitically it's going to be another couple years now and most likely Casmayor, Pacquaio, Marquez, Campbell and Barrera (if his comeback is succesful) will most likely all be gone.
It's likely Khan will be able to pick between lightweight and junior welter and right now junior welter is a wasteland and will likely remain so for a while.
Khan won't be a million miles away from the likes of Kotelnick and Holt in a couple years.
Don't give up on him just yet, I'd still say he's practically certain to win at least one belt.
As someone said before if Cook, Arthuer and Rees can do it, so can Khan, especially with Frank Warren behind him.
I believe that was me
Shit you could write a very long list of fighters who shouldn't really be good enough to have held world titles.
Just in and around 130-140 you have Arthur, Cook, Witter, Rees, Kotelnik, Holt, M'Baye, Maussa, Harris, Urango.
Bit strong to say he has no chance when all of the above have managed it.
Exactly he has more talent than all of that lot, if he can work on his defense and if another couple years make him a bit more durable then he'll have a great chance.
His chin is his only real weakness imo, in every other category he competes with everybody pretty much.
He needs to learn to get those hands up when he is moving backwards thats one of the first things my trainer learnt me and he done it in a way so it would be a natural reaction and i wasn't allowed to move on until i got it right despite all these rumours of Amir Khan's new trainer learning him defense it doesn't look like Amir Khan has learnt anything so its either not been drummed into his head so it becomes natural or Amir Khan was overrating the defensive training regime he was under either way he has too learn it fast because thats been one of his big downfalls.
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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ICB
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I believe that was me
Shit you could write a very long list of fighters who shouldn't really be good enough to have held world titles.
Just in and around 130-140 you have Arthur, Cook, Witter, Rees, Kotelnik, Holt, M'Baye, Maussa, Harris, Urango.
Bit strong to say he has no chance when all of the above have managed it.
Exactly he has more talent than all of that lot, if he can work on his defense and if another couple years make him a bit more durable then he'll have a great chance.
His chin is his only real weakness imo, in every other category he competes with everybody pretty much.
He needs to learn to get those hands up when he is moving backwards thats one of the first things my trainer learnt me and he done it in a way so it would be a natural reaction and i wasn't allowed to move on until i got it right despite all these rumours of Amir Khan's new trainer learning him defense it doesn't look like Amir Khan has learnt anything so its either not been drummed into his head so it becomes natural or Amir Khan was overrating the defensive training regime he was under either way he has too learn it fast because thats been one of his big downfalls.
Hard to tell if the work of the new trainer sank in after only 60s. I've heard a lot say he looked 'ill' when interviewd while getting his hands wrapped. I get the feeling that he had realised what he was up against (a taller athletic banger not a smaller past it fighter), and that nothing he had done previously remotely prepared him for such a live opponent, I reckon he panicked after the opening bell rather than decide to go for a tear up as they claim.
He has the talent to be a beltholder when all the players leave/retire, but he needs to realise that there are a hell of a lot of flaws in his game and it'll take time (and perhaps a move to the states for some reality cheking sparring) before he thinks ofa title.
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
khan should not fight prescott again right away. he should take some easy fights and get his confidence back. he was knocked out pretty badly
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khan should not fight prescott again right away. he should take some easy fights and get his confidence back. he was knocked out pretty badly
There's no such thing as an easy fight for him. That chin can be cracked by anybody.
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Khan got rocked by a jab about 20 seconds into the fight. What is that about?! I think it was game over for him from then. I watched his legs wobble then before the big blows landed. Disappointing. All the talk of fighting for world titles and big names should stop now. Too soon for the boy.
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Ono..
The fighters in the list you mentioned about less talented fights all had decent chins. Khan I'm afraid does not.
He was floored by Watson (4 TKO/ Ko's in 13 wins) in the amateurs, watch the silly dance he does. Its Judahesque. He was floored by Rachid Drilzane who has 1 stoppage in 15 wins. He had no stoppage victories when he met Khan, he was floored heavily by Willie Limond (Who moved up from 130lbs ) who has 8 KO/ TKO victories in 29 wins and then Gomez (Another 130lber) who floored him and hurt him to the body.
Unless Khan is talented enough not to take another flush punch again then he will get KO'd once he reached the top level.
Unless Prescott has a less than average chin himself I do not believe Khan would beat him in an immediate rematch.
Finally if it was Ramadan does that mean Khan was not eating like a boxer should. He sounded ill in his interviews, like he had a cold or virus.
Despite all the above I hope he does become a world champ and does not go the same way as Fraudly
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Khan got rocked by a jab about 20 seconds into the fight. What is that about?! I think it was game over for him from then. I watched his legs wobble then before the big blows landed. Disappointing. All the talk of fighting for world titles and big names should stop now. Too soon for the boy.
you got to give it to him tho a lot of people have slagged him off, but give him his due he did carry on trying to fight
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...in order to have a rematch there should be a first match. Khan just leave the guy alone and move on.
True words Mar, Khan cannot beat Prescott more impressively than Prescott just beat him, I'm certain of that.
Prescott has a new fan in me, I hope he wins a rematch and makes enough money to get his family out of the gutter, you have to respect a fighter that done it the hard way.
Khan however, how can he have hunger? He probably had a million in the bank before he even turned pro.
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Khan got rocked by a jab about 20 seconds into the fight. What is that about?! I think it was game over for him from then. I watched his legs wobble then before the big blows landed. Disappointing. All the talk of fighting for world titles and big names should stop now. Too soon for the boy.
you got to give it to him tho a lot of people have slagged him off, but give him his due he did carry on trying to fight
That's lack of experience for you, he never even thought of taking a knee bro.
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
Taking a knee is one thing , taking a knee to pick up the pieces of his chin that just got shattered is another thing ;D
Glass jaw isn't ever going to be the best in his division.
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Kotelnik was a solid fighter....
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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Just in and around 130-140 you have Arthur, Cook, Witter, Rees, Kotelnik, Holt, M'Baye, Maussa, Harris, Urango.
Bit strong to say he has no chance when all of the above have managed it.
I dont think anyone would make Khan a favourite over any of the above;D
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Taking a knee is one thing , taking a knee to pick up the pieces of his chin that just got shattered is another thing ;D
Glass jaw isn't ever going to be the best in his division.
i think it will be bloody hard for him same as it would be for any fighter but i dont think it is impossible, personally i dont think he will because he gets to ahead of himself he shouldnt of taken that fight with prescott he should of had his chin tested a bit more
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Hugh McIlvanney, boxing sage, on Khan :
THE FIRST reaction to the sight of Amir Khan sprawled on his back, confused and helpless under the ring lights at the MEN Arena in Manchester a week ago, was naturally a heart-wrenching surge of sympathy. As his mind slowly came back into focus, the bewilderment on his face gave way to a tortured expression that suggested the full dire significance of what had just happened to him was invading his thoughts. Ever since winning a silver medal at the Athens Olympics of 2004, the 21-year-old from Bolton had been steered carefully, amid an orchestrated din of publicity, towards the status of a contender for a professional world title. But in Manchester a serious flaw in the navigation process put him inside the ropes with Breidis Prescott, a Colombian whose background was sufficiently obscure to blind Khan’s advisers to the warning implicit in the 17 stoppages included among the 19 straight wins that constituted the Prescott record, and within 54 seconds the previously unbeaten fighter acclaimed as a golden prospect was violently exposed as incapable of claiming the humble WBO intercontinental lightweight championship, let alone pursuing a global prize.
No doubt many brainstorming sessions will be devoted to devising ways of resurrecting Khan’s career, with particular emphasis, of course, on a restoration of his earning power. But the prospects aren’t encouraging. His chances of world domination always looked minimal to me, and not just because of the gross limitations of his punch-resistance, though that has long been identifiable as a massive weakness. Before he met Prescott, he had been knocked down in three previous fights against unformidable opponents and, prior to having his senses scattered by the Colombian’s left hooks, he was blatantly shaken by a simple left jab. As his promoter, Frank Warren, once observed: “You can’t put muscles on chins”. If Amir Khan has a future in the ring, it may depend on Warren more than the boxer himself. He will need matchmaking so circumspect that it is liable to invite us to think of cotton wool as an abrasive substance.
Fabio Capello forging new England - Times Online
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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1.5 percent body fat ;D
Thats not human
AMAT: worried about u dude let us know whats going on with you
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Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
HA the only that will get beatin up in the rematch is prescotts hands gettin beat up by khans face;D