Re: Kessler`s training video
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Kessler is good looking, fit and strong - and a great guy. Is he a great boxer? NOPE.
He is far from it. A few wins over a ancient Beyer and a cowardly Mundine don't make you elite. So he went the full 12 with Joe - who doesn't? Ashir, Lacy, Hopkins, Bika.....
...infact Bika gave him a much harder fight than Kessler whom apart from one round was crap. Hardly fight of the year. Infact i dont know of any show-reel fights on his resume apart from the ko of Beyer and even he seemed shocked by it himself.
Bika was a dirty fighter,therefore it was a hard fight for Calzaghe,not because Bika was a good fighter
Thats stupid logic if Sakio Bika wasn't a good fighter and just dirty, then going by that logic Joe Calzaghe isn't a very good fighter for struggling against a limited fighter like Sakio Bika as you put it.
Sakio Bika isn't a bad fighter at all, he does make it a rough/physical fight. But that doesn't mean he is a bad fighter just like Bernard Hopkins isn't, who also has been making it into those kind of fights lately. The only fighter who has beat Sakio Bika well. Is Lucian Bute who is the dark horse of the division, and i think he would beat your boy.
Its about time Mikkel Kessler stops fighting mediocre fighters and steps up to the plate. The 1st time it was ok but again ? hell no i ain't buying that excuse again, he should of fought Edison Miranda but backed out. He also should fight Lucian Bute if Lucian Bute beats Librado Andrade, but i doubt he will anytime soon what the hell is wrong with Mikkel Kessler ?
Miranda my arse
Miranda is world class but not good enough to be a world champion and will always hover on the fringes IMO. He is famous for beating an old and shot Howard Eastman in which that fight was stopped to early.
Edison Miranda = Jeff Lacy without a belt;D
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Bika was a dirty fighter,therefore it was a hard fight for Calzaghe,not because Bika was a good fighter
Thats stupid logic if Sakio Bika wasn't a good fighter and just dirty, then going by that logic Joe Calzaghe isn't a very good fighter for struggling against a limited fighter like Sakio Bika as you put it.
Sakio Bika isn't a bad fighter at all, he does make it a rough/physical fight. But that doesn't mean he is a bad fighter just like Bernard Hopkins isn't, who also has been making it into those kind of fights lately. The only fighter who has beat Sakio Bika well. Is Lucian Bute who is the dark horse of the division, and i think he would beat your boy.
Its about time Mikkel Kessler stops fighting mediocre fighters and steps up to the plate. The 1st time it was ok but again ? hell no i ain't buying that excuse again, he should of fought Edison Miranda but backed out. He also should fight Lucian Bute if Lucian Bute beats Librado Andrade, but i doubt he will anytime soon what the hell is wrong with Mikkel Kessler ?
Miranda my arse
Miranda is world class but not good enough to be a world champion and will always hover on the fringes IMO. He is famous for beating an old and shot Howard Eastman in which that fight was stopped to early.
Edison Miranda = Jeff Lacy without a belt;D
Miranda isnt world-class just a world-class banger.
He beat old Eastman after being in serious trouble.
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Thats stupid logic if Sakio Bika wasn't a good fighter and just dirty, then going by that logic Joe Calzaghe isn't a very good fighter for struggling against a limited fighter like Sakio Bika as you put it.
Sakio Bika isn't a bad fighter at all, he does make it a rough/physical fight. But that doesn't mean he is a bad fighter just like Bernard Hopkins isn't, who also has been making it into those kind of fights lately. The only fighter who has beat Sakio Bika well. Is Lucian Bute who is the dark horse of the division, and i think he would beat your boy.
Its about time Mikkel Kessler stops fighting mediocre fighters and steps up to the plate. The 1st time it was ok but again ? hell no i ain't buying that excuse again, he should of fought Edison Miranda but backed out. He also should fight Lucian Bute if Lucian Bute beats Librado Andrade, but i doubt he will anytime soon what the hell is wrong with Mikkel Kessler ?
Miranda my arse
Miranda is world class but not good enough to be a world champion and will always hover on the fringes IMO. He is famous for beating an old and shot Howard Eastman in which that fight was stopped to early.
Edison Miranda = Jeff Lacy without a belt;D
Miranda isnt world-class just a world-class banger.
He beat old Eastman after being in serious trouble.
Disagree. Miranda is famous for arguably beating Arthur Abraham in their first fight and shattering Abraham's jaw while doing it.
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Bika was a dirty fighter,therefore it was a hard fight for Calzaghe,not because Bika was a good fighter
Thats stupid logic if Sakio Bika wasn't a good fighter and just dirty, then going by that logic Joe Calzaghe isn't a very good fighter for struggling against a limited fighter like Sakio Bika as you put it.
Sakio Bika isn't a bad fighter at all, he does make it a rough/physical fight. But that doesn't mean he is a bad fighter just like Bernard Hopkins isn't, who also has been making it into those kind of fights lately. The only fighter who has beat Sakio Bika well. Is Lucian Bute who is the dark horse of the division, and i think he would beat your boy.
Its about time Mikkel Kessler stops fighting mediocre fighters and steps up to the plate. The 1st time it was ok but again ? hell no i ain't buying that excuse again, he should of fought Edison Miranda but backed out. He also should fight Lucian Bute if Lucian Bute beats Librado Andrade, but i doubt he will anytime soon what the hell is wrong with Mikkel Kessler ?
Miranda my arse
Miranda is world class but not good enough to be a world champion and will always hover on the fringes IMO. He is famous for beating an old and shot Howard Eastman in which that fight was stopped to early.
Edison Miranda = Jeff Lacy without a belt;D
Miranda my ass what ? your not making sense the fact is at that time, Miranda was still a name. And Kessler backed out and fought a nobody instead, and if Mikkel Kessler had fought and beat Miranda he would of got alot of credit.
And now Kessler is fighting another nobody, i really don't know why Kessler is wasting his time with these kind of opponents. He would of got the credit for fighting Miranda. And Miranda is a better fighter than Kessler's last opponent and Kessler's latest opponent put together.
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Thats stupid logic if Sakio Bika wasn't a good fighter and just dirty, then going by that logic Joe Calzaghe isn't a very good fighter for struggling against a limited fighter like Sakio Bika as you put it.
Sakio Bika isn't a bad fighter at all, he does make it a rough/physical fight. But that doesn't mean he is a bad fighter just like Bernard Hopkins isn't, who also has been making it into those kind of fights lately. The only fighter who has beat Sakio Bika well. Is Lucian Bute who is the dark horse of the division, and i think he would beat your boy.
Its about time Mikkel Kessler stops fighting mediocre fighters and steps up to the plate. The 1st time it was ok but again ? hell no i ain't buying that excuse again, he should of fought Edison Miranda but backed out. He also should fight Lucian Bute if Lucian Bute beats Librado Andrade, but i doubt he will anytime soon what the hell is wrong with Mikkel Kessler ?
Miranda my arse
Miranda is world class but not good enough to be a world champion and will always hover on the fringes IMO. He is famous for beating an old and shot Howard Eastman in which that fight was stopped to early.
Edison Miranda = Jeff Lacy without a belt;D
Miranda my ass what ? your not making sense the fact is at that time, Miranda was still a name. And Kessler backed out and fought a nobody instead, and if Mikkel Kessler had fought and beat Miranda he would of got alot of credit.
And now Kessler is fighting another nobody, i really don't know why Kessler is wasting his time with these kind of opponents. He would of got the credit for fighting Miranda. And Miranda is a better fighter than Kessler's last opponent and Kessler's latest opponent put together.
KESSLER DUCKS MIRANDA!!!!!
There are a few people in this that keep repeating this.
If you are one of these listen up for once....:
Kessler's team wanted Miranda recognised as the top opponent for Kessler first so that they could make the fight for a belt. As such, the team lobbied the WBA and surprise suprise Miranda got ranked as top contender in the next rankings about 10 days after Miranda's offer. Kessler having worked hard to get Miranda ranked now made his team a better offer. Only to find that suddenly Miranda didn't want any of it
Please remember that and stop repeating a wrong story
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He ducked Miranda.
Miranda don't duck anybody.
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jangeorg
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jangeorg
Miranda my arse
Miranda is world class but not good enough to be a world champion and will always hover on the fringes IMO. He is famous for beating an old and shot Howard Eastman in which that fight was stopped to early.
Edison Miranda = Jeff Lacy without a belt;D
Miranda my ass what ? your not making sense the fact is at that time, Miranda was still a name. And Kessler backed out and fought a nobody instead, and if Mikkel Kessler had fought and beat Miranda he would of got alot of credit.
And now Kessler is fighting another nobody, i really don't know why Kessler is wasting his time with these kind of opponents. He would of got the credit for fighting Miranda. And Miranda is a better fighter than Kessler's last opponent and Kessler's latest opponent put together.
KESSLER DUCKS MIRANDA!!!!!
There are a few people in this that keep repeating this.
If you are one of these listen up for once....:
Kessler's team wanted Miranda recognised as the top opponent for Kessler first so that they could make the fight for a belt. As such, the team lobbied the WBA and surprise suprise Miranda got ranked as top contender in the next rankings about 10 days after Miranda's offer. Kessler having worked hard to get Miranda ranked now made his team a better offer. Only to find that suddenly Miranda didn't want any of it
Please remember that and stop repeating a wrong story
A lot of pundits don't agree with that assessment.
Either way, for some reason only his management can explain, Kessler was in the limelight after fighting Calzaghe, and now has faded into obscurity. You can't blame Miranda for that.
Re: Kessler`s training video
This thread is getting ridiculous, Kessler obviously is one of the most solid fundamentals boxers in the game, he was very competitive against Calzaghe for the first half of the fight. I think 2008 will be written off by Kess and his crew and expanding his skills. I too would like to see him fight bigger names again, that would be great. As for what happened in the negotiations with Miranda, there is not much anyone here can do but speculate unless of course you were on the phone with them and have copies of the contracts handy. I will be dissapointed in Kess if he doesn't fight a Ring ranked fighter next, but he can get this out of the way.
