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amat
Oba Carr was very tough and when he wanted to be he was tough but he was so offensive minded that he would disregard the defense sometimes but he was very tough in the beatings he took against Forrest and Trinidad and De La Hoya aswell.
Quartey KO'd him as well. I think he was the Zab Judah of his time
Carr went to the distance with Quartey, he did take a beating though that was one of Quartey's best fights ever but Carr did have a good 10th and 11th round and even got a knockdown ruled in his favor in the 11th but it was really a slip but he won the round regardless. He took a beating the final minute of the fight though. One of my favorite fights I watch it a lot.
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Lonnie Smith
Lightning! Now there's a blast from the past. I remember watching Smith take out Billy Costello in absolutely devastating fashion, and I thought he'd be the new superstar of boxing, but he never really showed a hell of a lot after that.
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Kel
Carlos Maussa
:lol:.....slickest & tough Kel,Not hardest to look at while managing not to regurgitate lunch ;D
Actually,He does take a solid beating.
Hehehe I kid
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And my all-time favorite slickster--Vinnie Curto
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I think when you put slick and tough together you get James Toney PERIOD. He is the hardest stationary target to hit. TODAY
other notable guys: Ray leonard, Guzman, Breland, Whittaker, Tapia, Mijares, DLH, Calzaghe
I am a bit tired of hearing people booing Calzaghe... for what? He also is a slick boxer. I haven't seen anyone land any bombs on him before or rock him.
And everyone else praising Hopkins. Talk about a guy who is single-handedly killing the sport of boxing. He's just milking it for all it's worth. You know your done when the headline for your next fight is "Un-knockout-able" or whatever it is. He hasn't beaten anybody since Tarver. (and don't even get me started on him) And before that it was DLH, seriously, a guy coming up from LW fighting a guy who is a natural LHW. Now THAT puts us a few years back.
Why is he still fighting? to prove he can't get knocked out? So he can hug the championship rounds away and complain of low blows that never happened (calzaghe fight)? To try to cheat a decision out of a real fighter?
Cancel your BS fight this weekend and do us a favor and RETIRE ALREADY.
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Young Arturo Gatti, at 130, was slick and tough. Eventually he lost the slick part ;D
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I think when you put slick and tough together you get James Toney PERIOD. He is the hardest stationary target to hit. TODAY
other notable guys: Ray leonard, Guzman, Breland, Whittaker, Tapia, Mijares, DLH, Calzaghe
I am a bit tired of hearing people booing Calzaghe... for what? He also is a slick boxer. I haven't seen anyone land any bombs on him before or rock him.
And everyone else praising Hopkins. Talk about a guy who is single-handedly killing the sport of boxing. He's just milking it for all it's worth. You know your done when the headline for your next fight is "Un-knockout-able" or whatever it is. He hasn't beaten anybody since Tarver. (and don't even get me started on him) And before that it was DLH, seriously, a guy coming up from LW fighting a guy who is a natural LHW. Now THAT puts us a few years back.
Why is he still fighting? to prove he can't get knocked out? So he can hug the championship rounds away and complain of low blows that never happened (calzaghe fight)? To try to cheat a decision out of a real fighter?
Cancel your BS fight this weekend and do us a favor and RETIRE ALREADY.
I wouldn't say Joe Calzaghe is really slick boxer, he is stiff in his upper body movement. And he doesn't have fludity or etc, and i have seen Joe Calzaghe get knocked down heavily from Kabary Salem who is no puncher.
But i understand what your trying to say but i just wouldn't really class Joe Calzaghe as a slick boxer, i've seen him get hit with right hands from Woodhall, Reid, over and over again. If he was slick he would not have got hit with even 40 percent of the right hands he took off those fighters.
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Taeth
Hopkins
Calzaghe could be called slick.
Willie Pep
Ray Robinson
Ray Leonard
Shane Mosley(not really slick, but still tough)
Same goes with Oscar Dela Hoya
Wilfredo Benitez
Muhamad Ali
I would not call Hopkins slick.More like safty first.Does not take risks.
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Taeth
Hopkins
Calzaghe could be called slick.
Willie Pep
Ray Robinson
Ray Leonard
Shane Mosley(not really slick, but still tough)
Same goes with Oscar Dela Hoya
Wilfredo Benitez
Muhamad Ali
I would not call Hopkins slick.More like safty first.Does not take risks.
If you could mix ugly with smart, you would get Hopkins. Maybe Chad Dawson.
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JonnyFolds
I think when you put slick and tough together you get James Toney PERIOD. He is the hardest stationary target to hit. TODAY
other notable guys: Ray leonard, Guzman, Breland, Whittaker, Tapia, Mijares, DLH, Calzaghe
I am a bit tired of hearing people booing Calzaghe... for what? He also is a slick boxer. I haven't seen anyone land any bombs on him before or rock him.
And everyone else praising Hopkins. Talk about a guy who is single-handedly killing the sport of boxing. He's just milking it for all it's worth. You know your done when the headline for your next fight is "Un-knockout-able" or whatever it is. He hasn't beaten anybody since Tarver. (and don't even get me started on him) And before that it was DLH, seriously, a guy coming up from LW fighting a guy who is a natural LHW. Now THAT puts us a few years back.
Why is he still fighting? to prove he can't get knocked out? So he can hug the championship rounds away and complain of low blows that never happened (calzaghe fight)? To try to cheat a decision out of a real fighter?
Cancel your BS fight this weekend and do us a favor and RETIRE ALREADY.
How the hell is bhop killing boxing. him and pavlik have already sold 10 000 seats. which is good since hopkins isnt even a exciting fighter anymore
hes crafty.
What about winky. he was one of the most avoided fighters in the sport.
Hopkins has a right to complain its not like calzaghe clearly won he was the one that was on the canvas in the 1st round, and didnt land anything FLUSH enough to clearly win most rounds. he only won cause his workrate.:p
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Paulie Malignaggi. Anyone who can take a 12-round ass whooping off Cotto and still be standing is one tough guy in my eyes. Still, I suppose it's down to opinion. :confused:
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porkypara
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Originally Posted by
Taeth
Hopkins
Calzaghe could be called slick.
Willie Pep
Ray Robinson
Ray Leonard
Shane Mosley(not really slick, but still tough)
Same goes with Oscar Dela Hoya
Wilfredo Benitez
Muhamad Ali
I would not call Hopkins slick.More like safty first.Does not take risks.
Hopkins is clearly a slick fighter, maybe watch some of him when he was younger and threw a bunch of punches and still was very good defensively.
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Calzaghe!!!!!!!!!!!!!Great technician and a great chin too.;)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FcFfqtEifCQ
I love this fight!Calzaghe at his best!!
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JonnyFolds
I think when you put slick and tough together you get James Toney PERIOD. He is the hardest stationary target to hit. TODAY
other notable guys: Ray leonard, Guzman, Breland, Whittaker, Tapia, Mijares, DLH, Calzaghe
I am a bit tired of hearing people booing Calzaghe... for what? He also is a slick boxer. I haven't seen anyone land any bombs on him before or rock him.
And everyone else praising Hopkins. Talk about a guy who is single-handedly killing the sport of boxing. He's just milking it for all it's worth. You know your done when the headline for your next fight is "Un-knockout-able" or whatever it is. He hasn't beaten anybody since Tarver. (and don't even get me started on him) And before that it was DLH, seriously, a guy coming up from LW fighting a guy who is a natural LHW. Now THAT puts us a few years back.
Why is he still fighting? to prove he can't get knocked out? So he can hug the championship rounds away and complain of low blows that never happened (calzaghe fight)? To try to cheat a decision out of a real fighter?
Cancel your BS fight this weekend and do us a favor and RETIRE ALREADY.
How the hell is bhop killing boxing. him and pavlik have already sold 10 000 seats. which is good since hopkins isnt even a exciting fighter anymore
hes crafty.
What about winky. he was one of the most avoided fighters in the sport.
Hopkins has a right to complain its not like calzaghe clearly won he was the one that was on the canvas in the 1st round, and didnt land anything FLUSH enough to clearly win most rounds. he only won cause his workrate.:p
I think workrate is a very good gauge for who wins a fight. I don't care how many punches you can dodge, go play dodgeball or paintball.
I don't see how ANYone can give Hopkins the nod in that fight. He was not conditioned to go the distance. He has had 43 years to prepare for that fight. If he's too old to beat top level opposition, then stop fighting. Why didn't he want a rematch? ... clearly because he cannot compete at the world class level. I am not sure where you are going with this, but I don't think I will be eating my words after this weekend.
Winky was/is very avoided.. no doubt. There is just no easy way of getting to that guy with a pair of gloves on. No one wants to fight him, because they all know the only way you are going to beat him is by split decision, no matter how hard you work. He has a price he'll fight for, and a purse split in mind... It's just not one that any logical fighter would ever take. Where were the flush shots from Hopkins on Winky anyway in their fight?
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Re: Slick Boxers Who Are Tough.
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ICB
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JonnyFolds
I think when you put slick and tough together you get James Toney PERIOD. He is the hardest stationary target to hit. TODAY
other notable guys: Ray leonard, Guzman, Breland, Whittaker, Tapia, Mijares, DLH, Calzaghe
I am a bit tired of hearing people booing Calzaghe... for what? He also is a slick boxer. I haven't seen anyone land any bombs on him before or rock him.
And everyone else praising Hopkins. Talk about a guy who is single-handedly killing the sport of boxing. He's just milking it for all it's worth. You know your done when the headline for your next fight is "Un-knockout-able" or whatever it is. He hasn't beaten anybody since Tarver. (and don't even get me started on him) And before that it was DLH, seriously, a guy coming up from LW fighting a guy who is a natural LHW. Now THAT puts us a few years back.
Why is he still fighting? to prove he can't get knocked out? So he can hug the championship rounds away and complain of low blows that never happened (calzaghe fight)? To try to cheat a decision out of a real fighter?
Cancel your BS fight this weekend and do us a favor and RETIRE ALREADY.
I wouldn't say Joe Calzaghe is really slick boxer, he is stiff in his upper body movement. And he doesn't have fludity or etc, and i have seen Joe Calzaghe get knocked down heavily from Kabary Salem who is no puncher.
But i understand what your trying to say but i just wouldn't really class Joe Calzaghe as a slick boxer, i've seen him get hit with right hands from Woodhall, Reid, over and over again. If he was slick he would not have got hit with even 40 percent of the right hands he took off those fighters.
Well put. Well put. Joe is a little stiff up top.
I can say that Joe didn't beat B-Hop like he did Lacy, so I can identify with the people on this site not giving Joe all the credit some (like myself) want to give him.
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JonnyFolds
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kingfrnk
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JonnyFolds
I think when you put slick and tough together you get James Toney PERIOD. He is the hardest stationary target to hit. TODAY
other notable guys: Ray leonard, Guzman, Breland, Whittaker, Tapia, Mijares, DLH, Calzaghe
I am a bit tired of hearing people booing Calzaghe... for what? He also is a slick boxer. I haven't seen anyone land any bombs on him before or rock him.
And everyone else praising Hopkins. Talk about a guy who is single-handedly killing the sport of boxing. He's just milking it for all it's worth. You know your done when the headline for your next fight is "Un-knockout-able" or whatever it is. He hasn't beaten anybody since Tarver. (and don't even get me started on him) And before that it was DLH, seriously, a guy coming up from LW fighting a guy who is a natural LHW. Now THAT puts us a few years back.
Why is he still fighting? to prove he can't get knocked out? So he can hug the championship rounds away and complain of low blows that never happened (calzaghe fight)? To try to cheat a decision out of a real fighter?
Cancel your BS fight this weekend and do us a favor and RETIRE ALREADY.
How the hell is bhop killing boxing. him and pavlik have already sold 10 000 seats. which is good since hopkins isnt even a exciting fighter anymore
hes crafty.
What about winky. he was one of the most avoided fighters in the sport.
Hopkins has a right to complain its not like calzaghe clearly won he was the one that was on the canvas in the 1st round, and didnt land anything FLUSH enough to clearly win most rounds. he only won cause his workrate.:p
I think workrate is a very good gauge for who wins a fight. I don't care how many punches you can dodge, go play dodgeball or paintball.
I don't see how ANYone can give Hopkins the nod in that fight. He was not conditioned to go the distance. He has had 43 years to prepare for that fight. If he's too old to beat top level opposition, then stop fighting. Why didn't he want a rematch? ... clearly because he cannot compete at the world class level. I am not sure where you are going with this, but I don't think I will be eating my words after this weekend.
Winky was/is very avoided.. no doubt. There is just no easy way of getting to that guy with a pair of gloves on. No one wants to fight him, because they all know the only way you are going to beat him is by split decision, no matter how hard you work. He has a price he'll fight for, and a purse split in mind... It's just not one that any logical fighter would ever take. Where were the flush shots from Hopkins on Winky anyway in their fight?
Im pretty sure pavlik will win to. but i give hopkins way more credit for taking a fight that calzaghe didnt want. Joe aint that much world class if he wants to fight a past his prime roy jones than kelly pavlik. the fight with roy does nothing for either of them but gets them pay checks thats it.
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I think Luis Collazo is pretty slick. He's more of a boxer/puncher but everytime I was his fights he's a clever south paw
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Hopkins
ali
collazo
ray robinson
ray leanord
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I nominate one of my favourite fighters of all time Hector Camacho Snr. He fought monsters and nobody stopped him. Even Chavez was surprised how tough Camacho was; when Hector was worn down and bullied against the ropes he fought back hard. He was slippery as hell, was tough as old boots and had a great chin.
Has to be up there somewhere.
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What are we classifying as slick? Because some of the names in this thread I question. Correct me if I'm wrong slick would be chin in shoulder, rolls with the punches, has speed and the usual left arm or right by his waist and feints alot. James Toney, Bhop, Jermaine Taylor, Sugar Ray Robinson were classic examples of slick. One name in this thread I question is Winky Wright because Winky stands in front of his opponent and blocks with his arms in a shell and lets the opponent wail away at him until he counters them. Just wondering where unorthodox falls into as well such as a Naseem Hamed or a Ricardo Mayorga?
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CGM
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Taeth
Hopkins
Calzaghe could be called slick.
Willie Pep
Ray Robinson
Ray Leonard
Shane Mosley(not really slick, but still tough)
Same goes with Oscar Dela Hoya
Wilfredo Benitez
Muhamad Ali
Agreed, on Ray Leonard, he was definitely tough.
He had to be to go toe to toe with Duran for 15 rounds, giving Duran all he could handle.
Leonard could definitely take a good punch. He also had the ability to raise the level of his game when the going got tough, as in the first fight against Hearns, and also against Donny Lalonde, where leonard was hurt and came back strong to score a crushing knockout.
Maybe I look outside the box sometimes, but that was a great sentence using only 2 and 3 letter words. hehe
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jon09
What are we classifying as slick? Because some of the names in this thread I question. Correct me if I'm wrong slick would be chin in shoulder, rolls with the punches, has speed and the usual left arm or right by his waist and feints alot. James Toney, Bhop, Jermaine Taylor, Sugar Ray Robinson were classic examples of slick. One name in this thread I question is Winky Wright because Winky stands in front of his opponent and blocks with his arms in a shell and lets the opponent wail away at him until he counters them. Just wondering where unorthodox falls into as well such as a Naseem Hamed or a Ricardo Mayorga?
dont agree wid jermaine being dat slick
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Vinnie Curto and Saoul Mamby
