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Hard to say who suffered more... Cotto must have been feelin some kind of pain to take a knee like that when he didn't really look that wobbly. No point in getting your nose busted up worse than it already is I guess.
The thing that struck me about Pavlik was the expression on his face towards the end of the fight. You could see it in his eyes. Puzzlement, embarrasment, whatever. It was like he is thinking "What the fuck is going on?"
Cotto was at least competitive against Margarito and early on in the fight was embarrassing Margo, Pavlik never won a round and could find it difficult to come back from this loss.
He was not supposed to lose to Hopkins, certainly not this badly, i don't hear anyone screaming rematch!
Pavlik was found out badly by a master ring tactician.
It might not seem like much of a choice but think of it this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
There aren't many guys who can do to Cotto what Margarito did to Cotto, especially taking the shots Toni took.
There are a ton of guys especially at 168 and 175 who can do to Pavlik what Hopkins did to Pavlik. B-Hop just blue printed the way to beat Kelly Pavlik AND Kelly has been proven ineffective at weights higher than 160 by Hopkins AND Jermain Taylor who some may say won the rematch.
I think Cotto was more physically damaged but mentally and emotionally it has to be Pavlik especially since he was fighting a guy who Joe Calzaghe made look like a bum.
are u saying joe made Bhop look like a bumQuote:
Originally Posted by LyleIt might not seem like much of a choice but think of it this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
There aren't many guys who can do to Cotto what Margarito did to Cotto, especially taking the shots Toni took.
There are a ton of guys especially at 168 and 175 who can do to Pavlik what Hopkins did to Pavlik. B-Hop just blue printed the way to beat Kelly Pavlik AND Kelly has been proven ineffective at weights higher than 160 by Hopkins AND Jermain Taylor who some may say won the rematch.
I think Cotto was more physically damaged but mentally and emotionally it has to be Pavlik especially since he was fighting a guy who Joe Calzaghe made look like a bum.
I liken these to fights as followed...
Margarito's beat down of Cotto was like a highschool bully who picked a fight with a streat thug and got slapped silly by a real man.
B-Hop's abuse of Pavlik was like a highschool bully getting arrested and picking a fight with an inmate and getting raped..
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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
excatly. it has to be cotto he was a huge favorite probably even a bigger fav than pavlik was against bhop. and everybody was calling the battle fight of the year, and alot of people werent to happy that kelly was going to fight bhop and look wat happened there. i mean dont get me wrong kelly got his pants pulled down in front of the whole class but cotto got beat up in front of the whole school and gave up against a guy that everybody thought he could beat.
Cotto was fighting the naturally bigger man...Pavlik was the naturally bigger man AND he was 17 years younger than B-Hop.....who should be worried? Margarito is the best welterweight, I don't know if Hopkins is the best at 175 or 168....I don't know if he's top 5....it's like trying to rank where De la Hoya is he doesn't fight often enough or in a single weight class.
Pavliks loss is worse. If cotto n magarito have a rematch there is a good chance cotto will win because it was a close fight up untill the end. Theres no way in hell i can see pavlic ever beating hopkins cos he got scholled for an entire 12 rounds.