Re: Will Cotto Be The Same
I hope he does come back, stronger if possible. The odds are against him though, the majority who suffer such a defeat simply don't make it back, of course he may be different but all we can do til he next steps in the ring is 'presume'.
I agree with JT, Cotto looked uncomforatble for a good few rounds, and most except the top rank commentators (on setanta) spotted it. He was beaten into submission, and quit. It's nothing to be ashamed of as his body was scraming at him no more, but since he wasn't unconsious he had to make the decision himself.
He has a nise mixture of skills and strength, but he'll need to add even more to the ersaenal to get back to where he once was, and if he ever stands a chance of revenge.
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I have seen the Marg/Cotto fight over 10 times and although Cotto was seemingly on his way to UD victory you can see Margarito literally steal his heart and beat the fighter out of him, that was as about as brutal of an ending as you will see, whether it was the polarizing images or the drama of the announcing or the magnitude of the ethnic boxing rivalry between Puerto Rico and Mexico.
Cotto who already had a questionable chin, no doubt has a huge dent in it, and that dosent bode well against guys like Clottey, Williams, Berto, Cintron and even Margarito who IMO Cotto should avoid him like the plague or that will be the end of him for good...
I know great fighters comeback from adversity but very few can comeback from a demolishen like that and regain even half of their former self..
Good Luck to him going forward, I hate to see such a spectacular fighter and up on the scrap heap, like a Meldrick Taylor maybe even Jeff Lacy depending on how he looks this weekend.. Boxing is such an unforgiving sport:-\
wat channel is lacy v taylorv on?
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You lost me brutha, you were trying to be eloquent but I think the bottom line is Tony stole Miguel's heart by beating him into submission... I think that satisfies both sides of the argument;D
Geez JT, you know I respect the hell out of you, and have nothing but luv for you, but that has to be the most irrational thing I have ever seen you say.
How do you know if Tony stole his heart? Are you telepathic now, and know what's going on inside his head, and his heart? Nice trick if you do.
You are making an irrational statement based upon one fight, and not based upon his entire career, or him as a man. What do you really know about Cotto the man, not the boxer, but the man?
If you knew anything about Cotto, you would know that he's not going to let one night bring him down.
I got sidetracked last night, but tonight, I'll have a lot more to say on this subject.
Many a boxer has gotten his heart broken/ stolen in a war of attricion, when you are sustaining heavy punishment, dosent matter if its heavy damage in a few rounds or accumulative over 12.
I dont want to split hairs with you nor do I want you to take it personal, but Miguels body language the last couple of rounds and how the fight ended and how he took the last knee showed signs of a broken fighter who had to submit and give in..
It happened to my favorite fighter, Lacy is no were near the technician of Cotto in the ring but still had the excitement and energy of a raging bull. After 12 rounds Joe had beaten the fighter out of Jeff, and unless he turns back the clock on Saturday that very well may be the harsh truth..
I do not wish the same on Miguel, Jeff has the heart and courage of a warrior like Miguel, he never took a knee or quit on his stool but after taking damage like that your body cant do the things it once could.
I think cotto will come back strong and hve another battle with tony but imo the question will then be will he come back from a second defeat to tony and then move back to jnr welter.:confused:
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Geez JT, you know I respect the hell out of you, and have nothing but luv for you, but that has to be the most irrational thing I have ever seen you say.
How do you know if Tony stole his heart? Are you telepathic now, and know what's going on inside his head, and his heart? Nice trick if you do.
You are making an irrational statement based upon one fight, and not based upon his entire career, or him as a man. What do you really know about Cotto the man, not the boxer, but the man?
If you knew anything about Cotto, you would know that he's not going to let one night bring him down.
I got sidetracked last night, but tonight, I'll have a lot more to say on this subject.
Many a boxer has gotten his heart broken/ stolen in a war of attricion, when you are sustaining heavy punishment, dosent matter if its heavy damage in a few rounds or accumulative over 12.
I dont want to split hairs with you nor do I want you to take it personal, but Miguels body language the last couple of rounds and how the fight ended and how he took the last knee showed signs of a broken fighter who had to submit and give in..
It happened to my favorite fighter, Lacy is no were near the technician of Cotto in the ring but still had the excitement and energy of a raging bull. After 12 rounds Joe had beaten the fighter out of Jeff, and unless he turns back the clock on Saturday that very well may be the harsh truth..
I do not wish the same on Miguel, Jeff has the heart and courage of a warrior like Miguel, he never took a knee or quit on his stool but after taking damage like that your body cant do the things it once could.
I think cotto will come back strong and hve another battle with tony but imo the question will then be will he come back from a second defeat to tony and then move back to jnr welter.:confused:
He's done a jnr Welter, he had to spend so much time cutting weight in camp he couldnt concentrate on his technique and even at that he was drained come fight night.. 147 was the best thing he could have done..
Again I was thinking of Gerald McClellan / Nigel Benn what happened to Gerald goes without saying, but Benn was shot to pieces after that fight and was never the same.. I just hope Cotto can defeat the odds
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Look at Cotto's eyes in the last few rounds. Do you see fear? He's suffering, and not just physically. He wasn't taking this beating well at all. Sure he was still landing a few punches, but all he was doing was trying to get away, maybe survive till the end of the fight.
He'll be ok in a comeback, till he faces someone who can stand in with him and give as good as he can take. Then we will see what he's made of.
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I hope he does come back, stronger if possible. The odds are against him though, the majority who suffer such a defeat simply don't make it back, of course he may be different but all we can do til he next steps in the ring is 'presume'.
Yep! Let's wait and see but then again, he's fighting another guy like all the ones he fought before Margarito so I wouldn't really really be all excited about this fight. Nice to see him in the ring. I enjoy seeing his combinations, angles, etc. But I enjoy it more when it is against a true champion in his prime and not a has-been or "good journeyman".
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He was beaten into submission, and quit. It's nothing to be ashamed of as his body was scraming at him no more, but since he wasn't unconsious he had to make the decision himself.
Nothing wrong with quitting like he did, that's right. If your body can't take it then its time to quit and shake your head "no mas" like he did. If he wanted to look good with the fans the beating would have been worse. Quitting is not THAT bad really.
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all he was doing was trying to get away, maybe survive till the end of the fight.
I saw him backpedaling many times, I was surprised.
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till he faces someone who can stand in with him and give as good as he can take. Then we will see what he's made of.
Fighting someone like Jennings won't do it.
