look like a slip like he lost his footing doesnt look like a knockdown to me man.
"Pretty face" doesn't always mean a dangerous boxer as recently demonstrated in the Caballero-Molitor fight. Caballero labeled Molitor a "pretty boy" then break Molitor's face during their fight...
http://www.fightnews.com/caballeromolitorpresser.jpg
Wow this debate has gotten beyond stupid.
I have a good idea here, how about no more talking about this fight until December.
It's a knockdown, It's not a knockdown. WHO CARES.
Just let the guys train for the damn fight and we can discuss it when the fight happens.
He's clearly getting ready to do some breakdancing, specifically windmills.
Hey Saddoboxer do you think this is a knockdown? This guy is much bigger than 154 .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQCVeMR2lXQ
i dont need to spar to know what touch means. we are not dumb as you pressume we are. talking about bias. every post you have here criticize pac and you call me bias. and you judge a guys defense on how he looks? wow, what a genius. your name sounds like it fits you. mono!
Damn after watching that how can anyone in their right mind think pacman can take a better shot then MAyorga who weigh 170 that fight?:confused: Fanatics are too much Pacquiao is gonna get put down hard if he gets hit with that same hook...and he wont be getting up for 5 minutes.
Dela Hoya will win this fight, how will depend on him and how he wants to do it imo.
Exactly! only gullible people will think pacman has a shot...the reason freddie roach is talking so much is to sell the fight so pacman can make money.
Roach knows pacman will lose and he knows pacman will still pay him 1 million dollars even if roach says no pacman will insist.
Pacman is a great fighter and deserves this payday but your on the money there my friend, Roach has been talking shit for sometime, Roach has publically admitted Kahn was giving Pac trouble for 4 rounds wtf?
Pac's style is not a style you want when your jumping up two weight classes against a guy with a great jab a killer left hook and a granite chin, Dela Hoya might carry Pac for a while, but i dont know if this fight is getitng personal or is it all bullshit with Freddie and Oscar to bulid this fight up?
If it is personal Oscar should get this done in 5 rounds, but maye he wants to put on a show who knows, but i think 4/9 which is the best price you can get on Oscar is pretty good odds.
All these people said Pacquiao has a chance, so you think all of them are gullible persons? ;D
1. Jose Sulaiman - WBC President
2. Bob Arum - Promoter, Top Rank
3. Freddie Roach - Most Revered Trainer
4. Nigel Collins - of The Ring
5. Marco Antonio Barrera - 4-time World Champion in 3-Weight Div
6. Dan Rafael – ESPN
7. Erik Morales - 3-time World Champion in 3-Weight Div
8. David Diaz – former WBC Lightweight Champion
9. Oscar Larios - former super bantamweight champion
10. Sylvester Stallone – actor
11. Kevin Lole - Yahoo Sports
12. Peter Maniatis - Australia TV host and boxing promoter
13. Lawrence Ragos - founding director of Motivation Sports LLC, Michigan
14. Chris Guzman - Internet writer, Chicago
15. Alden 'The Kid' Chodash - boxing's no. 1 pound-for-pound expert & Host, The Alden Chodash Show
16. Roberto Duran
17. KevinGarnett – Boston Celtics
18 Paul Pierce – Boston Celtics
19. Ray Allen – Boston Celtics
20 Sam Cassell – Boston Celtics
21 Rondo – Boston Celtics
22. Larry Merchant – Broadcaster
23. Michael Woods – Editor, The Sweet Science
24. Jessica Woods – wife of Michael Woods
25. Emmanuel Lucero
26. Juan Diaz – former Lightweight Champion
27. Ricky hatton - 2 division world champion
28. Jake Lamotta - The Raging Bull
29. Jasmine Villegas - Filipina-Mexican-American singer
30. Eric Brown - one of pacman's conditioning coaches
31. Darwin Custodio – brother (from Las Vegas) of writer DCRJ
32. George Willis – writer ESPN.com
33. Brad Cooney – Boxing writer
34. Rashad Holloway - super welterweight & sparring partner of MP.
35. Bobby Chacon – former World Champion & Boxing Hall of Famer
36. Hesiquio Alejandro Balderas Olivio – Writer PhilBoxing.com
37. Julio Cesar Chavez, a former boxing great and now, a TV broadcaster
38. Don Leopoldo - Boxing Herald
39. Alex Ariza - conditioning coach
40. Bert Randolph Sugar - a well known boxing writer
41 Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr - Super welterweight contender
42. Nonito Donaire, Jr - IBF/IBO flyweight champion
43. Amir Khan - Britain’s promising lightweight
44. Antonio Margarito - WBO Welterweight Champion
45 Glen Johnson - Former Light Heavyweight Champ
46. Lance Pugmire - Sports writer, Los Angeles Times
47. Gene Ramirez – Sportswriter, Ringside Report
48. Sampson Lewkowicz - Picasso for his matchmaking masterpieces
49. Michael Koncz - Pacquiao’s adviser
50. Miguel Diaz – legendary Argentine cutman
51. Jason Statham - English Lead Actor of the movie "The Transporter"
52. Michael Marley - Boxing Confidential
53. Greg R. Penilla, M.D - St. Louis, Missouri
54. John Martinez - IronBoxing.com
55. Jorge Arce – former world champion in the Light Flyweight
56. Mickey Rourke - Hollywood Actor
57. David A. Avila - TheSweetScience.com
58. Ronan Keenan - boxing writer of Ireland
59. Lee Samuels - Top public relations specialists in the sport of boxing
60. Ricardo Jimenez - Top public relations specialists in the sport of boxing
61. David West - NBA star of the New Orleans Hornets
62. Sam Patel - Owner, Vagabond Inn (branch in Hollywood, Los Angeles)
63. Sanjay Raj – Staff, Vagabond Inn (branch in Hollywood, Los Angeles)
64. D. Patel – Staff, Vagabond Inn (branch in Hollywood, Los Angeles)
65. Ambar Anabell - Staff, Vagabond Inn (branch in Hollywood, Los Angeles)
;D :lolhaha:
Enough with these sparring talks nonsense. It's different under the lights folks. ;)
dude your a fanatic they might of said he has a CHANCE but never said he will win...and lol at adding those vagabond in employees....its like your stretching for anyone who even mentions pacquiaos name.
Also jose sulaiman never said pacman has a chance that fool was against this fight to begin with lol.
and stallone? Stallone only attended 1 pacquiao fight and that was at the grand olympic auditorium in downtown LA before it was sold to a korean church.
Stallone is not a fan of pacquiao he never goes to his big fights...Stallone is a de la hoya fan he goes to hatton fights, he was at the calzaghe fight, he was at oscars fights.
You guys are stretching.
These people think PAC has a shot and I think they're not gullible people... ;)
I put up that list (taken from another forum) to show Mr. Moono that his statement "only gullible people will think pacman has a shot" is totally unresonable... ;D
I for one thinks that PAC has a chance to win this fight... even how slim it is... ;)
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Yep that's what they said... PAC has a chance (shot)...
It's you who made this unreasonable sweeping statement "only gullible people will think pacman has a shot"... which is not true... ;D
So you want me to show you another LONG list of popular personalities who think PAC will WIN this fight? :lolhaha:
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Pac by KO.
no they said he has a chance anyone has a chance in a fight there is always that 1 percent chance that oscar can suffer a freak injury like twist his ankle or dislocate his shoulder.
Chance means nothing the fight is a mismatch and if it goes the distance or lasts longer then 6 rounds it will look like pacquiao vs barrera 2 both guys cautious and not trading.
Oscar better knock pacman out if he wants to be taken serious.
this fight is not marketed towards Boxing fans...so yes only gullible people think pacman has a shot! why do you think so many hardcore boxing fans call this a mismatch? the target audience for this fight is the Casual fan who will actually buy the event because of the marketing gimmick
So Sugar Ray Leonard is a gullible person? Leonard said PAC can possibly upset Hoya...
“I don’t think it’s a mismatch. I just think it would be an incredible feat for him to upset Oscar. Can it be done? YES! Anything can happen in the ring,” said Leonard.
“Pacquiao is very dominant with guys his size, but when he’s on the attack, he’s open, and very vulnerable… He also has to be defensive, to protect himself from the big punches,” said Leonard.
Time, however, is not on de la Hoya’s side.
“But Oscar’s 35 years old now, and his has to be on his A game to beat Pacquiao,” said Leonard.
These things, he said, make the fight very interesting.
“People will watch this fight. I’m going to watch because it’s intriguing,” said Leonard.
Saddoboxer i respect you my friend but Leonard is not exactly the most outspoken person, and he is the same guy that thought Manfredo could beat Calzaghe, i wish Pacman all the best but he just isnt big enough imo.
and then he said Anything can happen in the ring...:rolleyes: basically man you know they will say that just so the fight can sell...its the fans who dislike this fight.
Why are you acting so Naive what is Leonard gonna say the Truth? no he knows how fanatic you pinoys are and will bash him if he is honest. Even Kevin Iole and countless others have to face the fanatical ignorance of many pacman fanatics who only follow boxing because of pacquiao and know squat about boxing in general.
I really seen the lack of class these fanatics have if you say one negative thing on pacman or even say something that disagrees with pacquiao winning they will lambast you its a pathetic display of obsession.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and pac fanatics need to realize this and respect that.
you guys gotta stop entertaining mono the monkey. he lives on this board to aggrevate people. he is the pac fanatic coz all of his posts are about pac.
...now back to the original topic...
Use your tiny heads, fellas. What you see there is not what you might actually get. If they show something, they'd probably do the opposite or do something else, not that is matters though. It's rule #47 under 'Psy-war 101'...;D;)
Arron Robinson
yea that Robinson dude sure is a carbon copy of DLH :rolleyes:, what ever shall the golden boy do now....
give me a fucking break, just cause Pacquiao drops a big piece of shit like the Energizer Bunny doesn't mean shit, all it questions is the quality of sparring partners that Manny is lookin up :confused:, cause seriously if Pacquiao wasn't able to do some damage to a dude who's record is 6-2-1 (4 KO's) against garbage, than there'd really be a problem
wouldn't be the least bit suprised to hear a Pacquiao nut hugger say, "oh i read an article that Manny is gonna be able to wear Reyes Gloves, AAAND HIS FAVORITE SOCKS, he's gonna get a 1st round KO" :rolleyes: