Cotto smashes Hatton at any weight
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Cotto smashes Hatton at any weight
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Cotto TKO's Hatton
Yeah I think it would be a simular outcome to Pbf's fight at the moment.
I agree on the talent aspect but i think on a level playing feel Hatton would fit in quite nicely with the talented bunch of fighters at welter (if the weight/size wasn't an issue). He wouldn't be able to dominate it like he does at 140 though.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGM
Perhaps you are right, though I wouldn't have thought the size difference between junior welterweight and welterweight was all that huge, or insurmountable. He's taller than Cotto, for whatever that's worth. But if it is too much for him, then maybe he shouldn't be thinking about challenging DLH or Mayweather again.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoBecause he's far too small. He aint really a big light-welterweight. Sure he balloons up between fights but he doesn't add any lean mass. It's all body fat. I actually think he could probably have fought at 135 for some his career....quite comfortably.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGM
Add that to the fact that his style wouldn't allow him to use his main advantages at welter. His strength and punching power wouldn't have much effect on natural welters. His reach is also very very short so the jab goes out of the window (check how many he landed against Collazo and Mayweather - granted they were both slick fighters).
If you look at the sort of champions who have won titles at different weight classes the majority of them have probably been supremely gifted athletes who rely on speed and technical ability (Mayweather, Roy Jones, Mosely etc) or they are fighters who have continually outgrown their own weight class.
Ricky Hatton simply isn't that fighter. It doesn't make him any less of a champion....it just means he's always going to be one of those fighters who probably has to concentrate on their natural weight division.
There's a huge difference in talent between the two divisions, it'd make a big difference to his legacy if he could be successful among the elite welterweights. He doesn't really seem to be challenged at JWW. But maybe he just have the drive to make that move. It'd probably take a lot of work. He certainly doesn't need the money.
It'll be real interesting to see how PAC does at welterweight.
Come fight night he probs weighs around 150-153 ish whereas some guys at Welter are going to be at 160+. It's a massive difference especially if you don't have the edge in technical ability.
I don't think he should fight Oscar or Mayweather again. Oscar = too big, Mayweather = too good (at any weight). I think Pac at 140 would be hugely competitive.
I think Hatton has a chance against Cotto at welter.Cotto dont like being pressured,and has also hit the canvas against people who he should beaten easy. Hatton's problem is the amount of jabs he would have to eat,and these jabs would be a lot harder than he has been use to.
Good post CGM.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGMMargarito has a chin, that makes him at least two dimensional. :) If Hatton has Margarito's chin, then your argument has some merit.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Lefty, do u really think Hatton would survive all those hellacious shots Marg took from Cotto and win? I don't. Hell he couldn't even survive one clean hook from floyd who has less power.
Agreed... Excellent post Yoko:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by onoBecause he's far too small. He aint really a big light-welterweight. Sure he balloons up between fights but he doesn't add any lean mass. It's all body fat. I actually think he could probably have fought at 135 for some his career....quite comfortably.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGM
Add that to the fact that his style wouldn't allow him to use his main advantages at welter. His strength and punching power wouldn't have much effect on natural welters. His reach is also very very short so the jab goes out of the window (check how many he landed against Collazo and Mayweather - granted they were both slick fighters).
If you look at the sort of champions who have won titles at different weight classes the majority of them have probably been supremely gifted athletes who rely on speed and technical ability (Mayweather, Roy Jones, Mosely etc) or they are fighters who have continually outgrown their own weight class.
Ricky Hatton simply isn't that fighter. It doesn't make him any less of a champion....it just means he's always going to be one of those fighters who probably has to concentrate on their natural weight division.
And a good example of your point bud off the top of my head would be Marvin Hagler at Middle weight ... is he less respected or thought of by the masses for staying at Middle weight ... I dont think so...Quote:
Originally Posted by onoBecause he's far too small. He aint really a big light-welterweight. Sure he balloons up between fights but he doesn't add any lean mass. It's all body fat. I actually think he could probably have fought at 135 for some his career....quite comfortably.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGM
Add that to the fact that his style wouldn't allow him to use his main advantages at welter. His strength and punching power wouldn't have much effect on natural welters. His reach is also very very short so the jab goes out of the window (check how many he landed against Collazo and Mayweather - granted they were both slick fighters).
If you look at the sort of champions who have won titles at different weight classes the majority of them have probably been supremely gifted athletes who rely on speed and technical ability (Mayweather, Roy Jones, Mosely etc) or they are fighters who have continually outgrown their own weight class.
Ricky Hatton simply isn't that fighter. It doesn't make him any less of a champion....it just means he's always going to be one of those fighters who probably has to concentrate on their natural weight division.
And no Im not comparing Hatton to Hagler in any way at all ... just high lighting the point of dominating one division..
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This is a fight I'd like to see. 144 sounds reasonable as well.
It would be competitive while it lasts but i'd expect Cotto's superior strength to just eventually wear Ricky down by the 8th. I'tll never happen though.
I think at that weight Ricky is still a beast, he would have the faster hands, I would give him the edge in chin and stamina, and he would decimate Cotto's body, thats how Margo wore him down through body work and Ricky is on par with the best of body punchers.. Ricky looked like anew man against Malignaggi.. and would just be a haunt and scourge on Cotto all niteQuote:
Originally Posted by Bomp
I really believe that when you watch the highlights of Hatton Mayweather all of those lead rights that almost snapped Ricky's head off would have finished Cotto.. Sure it was a check hook that finished him, but Mayweather was beating him up pretty bad accumulativly.. Could Cotto have taken that?? I really dont think so
Where would Hagler have gone back in the mid '80s? LightHeavy? Who would he have fought that wasn't middleweight? There's tons of action in Welterweight. No action in SMW back in the mid 80s. I see your logic, but not the best of examples.Quote:
Originally Posted by bambamdaddioAnd a good example of your point bud off the top of my head would be Marvin Hagler at Middle weight ... is he less respected or thought of by the masses for staying at Middle weight ... I dont think so...Quote:
Originally Posted by onoBecause he's far too small. He aint really a big light-welterweight. Sure he balloons up between fights but he doesn't add any lean mass. It's all body fat. I actually think he could probably have fought at 135 for some his career....quite comfortably.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGM
Add that to the fact that his style wouldn't allow him to use his main advantages at welter. His strength and punching power wouldn't have much effect on natural welters. His reach is also very very short so the jab goes out of the window (check how many he landed against Collazo and Mayweather - granted they were both slick fighters).
If you look at the sort of champions who have won titles at different weight classes the majority of them have probably been supremely gifted athletes who rely on speed and technical ability (Mayweather, Roy Jones, Mosely etc) or they are fighters who have continually outgrown their own weight class.
Ricky Hatton simply isn't that fighter. It doesn't make him any less of a champion....it just means he's always going to be one of those fighters who probably has to concentrate on their natural weight division.
And no Im not comparing Hatton to Hagler in any way at all ... just high lighting the point of dominating one division..
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