Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

Along with an E-mail send em an attachment ;D. Different subject but sentiments just as strong at 1:00 on
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You guys will spark a cold war.

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Originally Posted by GAME

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Originally Posted by yvonne

I've just come back from having a few pints at me local pub and was wondering how Evander got on!!Is that true that he got robbed??If soo the judges want fooking sacking for life.I mean i had a feeling Holyfield had it against him going into this fight(Based on his age and hight disadvantage)but to hear that he got robbed breaks my heart!!


Is this really true to the people who watched this fight?

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Mate he wasnt just robbed, it was a complete travesty . Im talking 120 -108 to Evander.

Worst decision I have ever seen. Ive complained to the WBA

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"WOW!"It must be that obvisous!Im feeling really sorry for Holyfield as well as the boxing fans and board if this fight was really fixed!!I've said this before and i do beleive in it,that this was fixed on the betting organisations across the world for sure.Evander was 5/1 underdog but still manages to pull out a upset on the bookmakers but the judges think overwise.A BIG CON MONEY GRABBING CON THIS IS!I've witness this before!!!

Do you guys remember how in the 1st Miranda/Abrham fight, how Abraham's people...and i mean allll.....of them around the ring were going to do what ever it took to make sure Miranda walked out with his title. I remember poor Randy Newmann trying to stop the fight but he knew that he probably wouldn't have made it out of the arena alive. I remember Abraham groaning in pain and looking to quit(rightfully so) but all the people around ringside would not allow it.

Bottom line.

You have to kill the champ overseas to get the title!!

Poor Holyfield. He would have had to killed that giant, but i bet they would have postponed the fight till they revived him, then allowed the fight to continue.

Here is a question,"what was the nationality of the three judges at ringside??"

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Originally Posted by GAME

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Originally Posted by yvonne

I've just come back from having a few pints at me local pub and was wondering how Evander got on!!Is that true that he got robbed??If soo the judges want fooking sacking for life.I mean i had a feeling Holyfield had it against him going into this fight(Based on his age and hight disadvantage)but to hear that he got robbed breaks my heart!!


Is this really true to the people who watched this fight?

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Mate he wasnt just robbed, it was a complete travesty . Im talking 120 -108 to Evander.

Worst decision I have ever seen. Ive complained to the WBA

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? A minute ago you were asking people what the fight result was now it was the robbery you've ever seen? :confused:

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Originally Posted by yvonne

I've just come back from having a few pints at me local pub and was wondering how Evander got on!!Is that true that he got robbed??If soo the judges want fooking sacking for life.I mean i had a feeling Holyfield had it against him going into this fight(Based on his age and hight disadvantage)but to hear that he got robbed breaks my heart!!


Is this really true to the people who watched this fight?

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Mate he wasnt just robbed, it was a complete travesty . Im talking 120 -108 to Evander.

Worst decision I have ever seen. Ive complained to the WBA

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? A minute ago you were asking people what the fight result was now it was the robbery you've ever seen? :confused:

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I saw the entire fight and my stream went just as they were about to announce the decision . I was expecting to hear 120-108 to evander thats why i wanted clarity when I heard all this talk of controversy . i couldnt belive it .

Everyone who responded here look at Fightnews.com read that and tell me what u think about that!

An Italian a Panamanian and a Swede. It's a typical German robbery that their promoters always do. Another Reid ottke or Ottke fill in the blank.

Well i haven't seen it cos noone showed it over here in the uk but from what you guys are saying I just feel sick

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Mate he wasnt just robbed, it was a complete travesty . Im talking 120 -108 to Evander.

Worst decision I have ever seen. Ive complained to the WBA

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? A minute ago you were asking people what the fight result was now it was the robbery you've ever seen? :confused:

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I saw the entire fight and my stream went just as they were about to announce the decision . I was expecting to hear 120-108 to evander thats why i wanted clarity when I heard all this talk of controversy . i couldnt belive it .

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Ah fair enough my bad, :p

So this fight will have a big appeal from the Holyfield camp for sure?Court case for the boxing board of control?This is the question to you guys who seen the fight!

They never reverse robberies. At best holyfield gets a rematch, like Soto tonight.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

This fight has ruined my day and i dont know if i want to watch boxing anymore i cant deal with this shit just screwed up and i cant stand it.

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I don't prefer absurd desicions, yet the ridiculous part is that Evander Holyfield got another title shot. He should have never been there in the first place.

I can't give up watching my favorite sport for the sake of Evander Holyfield. Sorry, folks.

AWESOME MATCH! :D

A LOT OF INTENSE BACK AND FORT ACTION, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW THIS EXCEEDED EXPECTATION!

YOU GOTTA LOVE BOXING, I REALLY THINK THESE TWO ARE MADE FOR EACHOTHER!

THE FIGHT COULD OF GONE EITHER WAY BUT I REALLY THINK VAZQUEZ WANTED IT MORE AND EARNED IT IN THE 12TH.

oh now what were you guys talking about? Holyfield valuev is one fight that does not represent the entire sport.

J.T im glad you changed the title, but im sure you still dont mean screw boxing?

I didn't see this fight. How does it compare with Lewis - Holyfield I on the robbery scale?

This is the best thing that could happen to Holyfield. If the scoring was that bad then a rematch will be ordered. Which will be another good payday. If Holyfield had got his ass handed to him his career would be over. It's going to take a big payday to feed 11 kids.

fix

i scored it 117-111 holyfield. i'm flabbergasted at the decision. the worse thing is holy will continue to fight thinking he can still be champion.

hey guys did sotto win yet? ;D

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This fight has ruined my day and i dont know if i want to watch boxing anymore i cant deal with this shit just fucked up and i cant stand it.

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Are you serious ? jesus christ this happens all the time, thats silly to stop watching boxing over 1 bad decision. It happens every other day in boxing, you just accept it and move on.

Now granted i haven't seen the fight and i will, but it looks like it was a bad decision. And it is a shame Evander Holyfield didn't get the record for being the oldest Heavyweight champion of all time, and he deserved it by what im reading on here.

I dont see it as a robbery,I see it as one of the worst fights Ive ever watched, but not a robbery.
Valuev landed more effective blows,Holyfield threw more punches,but as often as not,hit low or the arms,and barely missed a deduction for head butting in to Valuevs chin.Also Holyfield faded in the second half.
That being said,I never want to see either of them in a ring again,as long as I live.It was the worst fight of the entire card.
Im having a hard time just getting Martin/Mahfood 2 even booked,and that crap was a $24 PPV?

There needs to be some sort of commission or SOMETHING set up to look at these extreme cases where you can look and go, okay, these judges scored it this way, but it's clear the rest of the entire fucking world see's it the exact opposite..

It's bullshit...

I certainly wouldn't want them looking at many fights, but in cases like this, the judges should have to go on trial and explain round by round as the fight plays back in a court how they can give the rounds to the fighters... If it is just total shit, which in this case it is,,,, the result of the fight should be changed...

I most likly while still watch but ice this has to be worse decsion i have ever seen dude Evander won like i have to say 10 rounds maybe you could give or take some rounds but my god there no way in hell that Evander did not win i was in shock when they read the cards and very mad.

Holyfield and Brooks need to protest this fight and try to get it overturned, That was purely rigged

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I dont see it as a robbery,I see it as one of the worst fights Ive ever watched, but not a robbery.
Valuev landed more effective blows,Holyfield threw more punches,but as often as not,hit low or the arms,and barely missed a deduction for head butting in to Valuevs chin.Also Holyfield faded in the second half.
That being said,I never want to see either of them in a ring again,as long as I live.It was the worst fight of the entire card.
Im having a hard time just getting Martin/Mahfood 2 even booked,and that crap was a $24 PPV?

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TM no offense but you have some of the worst scoring i've ever seen, and from all the opinions i've seen on here and from boxing experts, they all say its a robbery and atleast 7 points + win for Evander Holyfield but you don't ? i thought when you thought Mikkel Kessler beat Joe Calzaghe was bad enough but this takes the biscuit.

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Originally Posted by CGM

I didn't see this fight. How does it compare with Lewis - Holyfield I on the robbery scale?

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Much Much Much worse.


This was robbing a fighter that won every round.

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I dont see it as a robbery,I see it as one of the worst fights Ive ever watched, but not a robbery.
Valuev landed more effective blows,Holyfield threw more punches,but as often as not,hit low or the arms,and barely missed a deduction for head butting in to Valuevs chin.Also Holyfield faded in the second half.
That being said,I never want to see either of them in a ring again,as long as I live.It was the worst fight of the entire card.
Im having a hard time just getting Martin/Mahfood 2 even booked,and that crap was a $24 PPV?

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TM no offense but you have some of the worst scoring i've ever seen, and from all the opinions i've seen on here and from boxing experts, they all say its a robbery and atleast 7 points + win for Evander Holyfield but you don't ? i thought when you thought Mikkel Kessler beat Joe Calzaghe was bad enough but this takes the biscuit.

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I thought it was close
Holyfield barely threw a shot in the second half of the fight,and got repeatedly drilled to the body.
It was a crappy fight,but a decision that could have gone either way.
I loathed the fight,but I dont feel one way or the other about the decision. To take a belt its usually got to be decisive. While Valuevs elbows may hurt like hell tommorrow,it wasnt even close to decisive. What it really was,was boring as hell.
Both undercard matches were better..
To be the man,you have to beat the man,to quote Ric Flair.
Now could somebody please beat the man,so I dont have to watch that lumbering sasquatch anymore

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Originally Posted by Vitalifan4life

Everyone who responded here look at Fightnews.com read that and tell me what u think about that!

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Fightnews will say what ever you pay them too. Ever notice that they curiously print press releases like they are fact, and they accept payment to report/advertise UFC and WEC but ignore all other MMA events.

Had it 117-114 Holyfield, being very generous to Valuev. I thought Evander needed to be more convincing when winning rounds, there was'nt a lot of action from either fighter but Holyfield definatly won on my card. Never trust a german who is friendly with the Don lol

You want to bitch about a robbery,bitch about the female undercard,because that fight wasnt even close on anything,landed shots,power shots,ring generalship,not even close
That was a robbery

Valuev seems to get a lot of gift decisions...He was given a gift in the first Ruiz bout as well....This is why I do not like fights in countries other then the US and UK...sure there are bad decisions but no damn outright burgleries

One thing about not seeing the fight to those that have not.Do not think of it it terms of fighter A swatting around fighter B and dictating hurting terms throughout 12 rounds by volume and big bombs....and then getting shafted.Almost on the other end of the scale,no barn burner and early on you had to pick between very little.But I believe Holyfield did the picking and was banking the rounds one by one.He won this!

To me it was a hard fight to watch,very little action and hardly on par with what we have come to expect when we settle down for a 'Heavyweight Championship' battle,of course in that regard it is not alone as of late?I think Valuev was very tentetive,lethargic and frankly....get ready to lol......in a bit of awe of the event and calibur of Holyfields stature/history.Now anyone with clear vision and objectivness knows that Holyfield has loooong past his best days and is running on fumes,heart and shades of his past skillset but even at this stage he was busier,moved well and landed in some counters.Buy the 4th he was walking too The Chumpion.Valuev just phoned it in....followed him around the majority and did very very little,His jab was absent,he did not exert himself or imo fight to remain Chumpion.Holyfield went after it with what he has at 46 years old and EARNED that victory soundly.No,he is not rebuilt,re-tooled and ready to defeat the best in the division,no way......but he sure as shit did enough consistantly to beat that carnival oddity and merit the title victory!!

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I didn't see this fight. How does it compare with Lewis - Holyfield I on the robbery scale?

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Much Much Much worse.


This was robbing a fighter that won every round.

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Well, that certainly says something, cause Lewis Holyfield was as bad a robbery as I can recall seeing.

Oh well, I kind of shrug my shoullders at this latest fiasco. The last thing I wanted was to see Holyfield calling himself a world champion, but I would rather have had a convincing victory for the big V. By the sound of things, I predict WBA will have an enquiry and call a rematch.

He got a gift in the Larry Donald fight too. It is easier to name the fights where valuev was not given a gift decision.

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The only good thing is that it did not turn out, a tragedy, I did not care any which way it went. It should have been a no contest, if there was not enough action in the fight.

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

I dont see it as a robbery,I see it as one of the worst fights Ive ever watched, but not a robbery.
Valuev landed more effective blows,Holyfield threw more punches,but as often as not,hit low or the arms,and barely missed a deduction for head butting in to Valuevs chin.Also Holyfield faded in the second half.
That being said,I never want to see either of them in a ring again,as long as I live.It was the worst fight of the entire card.
Im having a hard time just getting Martin/Mahfood 2 even booked,and that crap was a $24 PPV?

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Sorry man I like you, but that whole paragraph is about as inaccurate as you can get.. An arguement can be made that Holy pitched a shut out, Valuev didnt land one solid shot on Holy, Evander was on his toes the whole fight had great lateral movement picked off Valuev's jab and slipped just about every punch along with putting on a counter punching clinic..

Its no secret that you are one of the top 2 Holyfield haters around here with frozensolid 702 being#1 so I think your pretty biased on this one..

As far as the headbutt goes, Evander slipped a right and came up under his chin, not to hard to fathom when you are giving up a foot to your opponent

I should have Holyfied vs Valuev dotted for Robbery of the Year! Nah!

Merged so the discussion stays in one place.

But seriously, I saw up until 1/2 way through the 10th round, and I was convinced that Holyfield was going to win, because Valuev didn't seem to be doing anything except pivoting around like a bear tied to a stake, while Holyfield circled him, dived in to land occasionally, then got back out of range. Frankly, it's an outrage that Holyfield isn't celebrating being a five-time world champion tonight, but that in itself is a statement on the farcicle state of the heavies at the moment.