Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

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01-16-2009, 09:38 AM
Dean Duke

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

Jennings is no mug, he can box very well, he knows what he is up against and will give it his best shot, would be mad to tip him for a win but expect him to be trying, he knows that if he can impress he will be putting him self in the shop window for future fights, I expect Micheal to go out on his shield.
01-16-2009, 11:16 AM
rjj tszyu

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

in a word..... no
01-16-2009, 05:02 PM
WelshDevilRob

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

To misquote Don King "Jennings has Slim and No Chance and Slim just left town"

This fight is Pavlik vs Lockett 2 interms of ability and boxing class.

Good Luck to Jennings though.
01-16-2009, 06:35 PM
Chino

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

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This fight is nothing more then the chance for the announcers to say "Miguel Cotto IS BACK!"

And it actually gives more credibility to his rematch vs Margarito and help sell the fight a bit more.

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Imo he will never be mentally right until he beats Margarito, which he won't, he doesn't have the mentality that says "I will box 12 rounds and get a decision" he is the type of fighter who is patient for half a fight and then wants to knock someone out. And thats why he will never beat Margarito

That could be, that could be. But any boxer that goes to a rematch with the exact same strategy wouldn't really make sense. I expect Cotto to come to the rematch with a different fight plan and hope that works. I imagine Cotto will box more since he knows his punches have no effect on Margarito (or at least they didn't when they faced each other) and avoiding Margarito's power.

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Jennings is no mug, he can box very well, he knows what he is up against and will give it his best shot, would be mad to tip him for a win but expect him to be trying, he knows that if he can impress he will be putting him self in the shop window for future fights, I expect Micheal to go out on his shield

I hope so too so the fight can look more competitive but I don't see any threat in his power.
01-16-2009, 08:07 PM
Onix

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

;D

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I did say threads but I ment posts, my bad:rolleyes:. But there are also threads that are not even confirmed yet but are a good source to keep throwing crap at ODLH like the recent one that ODLH was looking for a rematch with Pac, remember that one? I could understand people saying that ODLH got a freebie against X and state their opinion why instead of something like what Danny just posted. Of course, nobody will say a thing. Now imagine if I said something like that about this forum's beloved Cotto. Wouldn't that be simply unnaceptable? I am yet to post something about Cotto like that. I have gone through some of Cotto's victories on his resume and mentioned why I don't think they are all that instead of just saying he sucks or something. Is that so bad? It's not like a start those threads.

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So because you get upset when people deride your favorite fighter, you feel the need to say the same things about Cotto over and over again?

Some people have a good debate against ODLH and others just post stuff like what DannyG just did. Look at any ODLH thread and you'll see what I am talking about.

Do you want to go fighter through fighter from Cotto's resume? Be my guest. We can start a thread or keep it on PM if people find it unnaceptable to mention something negative about Cotto.

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Why not try and counter the arguments about ODH if you're such a bastion of boxing knowledge?

I already did many times. Not only for ODLH but also AGAINST ODLH. I don't blind myself from his mistakes, freebie desicions, etc.

So anyways, do you agree or disagree with what I said about Jenning's fights that I mentioned? (just to stay on topic)

Chino, between you and I we have been called "Cotto-Haters" all day. But I dont know man you seem to really inspire some angry feelings. I dont think you bash him in any underminded ways and actually you back your arguments alot better than I do in my opinion. I dont know why you get the backlash and I dont, maybe cuz im better looking and cooler than you......;D
01-16-2009, 08:21 PM
yvonne

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

I think Jennings will do a canny good job against Cotto,more than people gave him credit for.Yes okay:rolleyes:Jennings is not world class and thats based because he has'nt had the right fights in line.Come on give Jennings respect for meeting up with Cotto!!Jennings has all round good boxing skills and a great chin too. I remember him having a slug fest with Ross "The Boss" Minter about 2 years ago and Jennings was giving back as much as he was taking from Ross Minter.Okay,Minter is more of a power puncher but it just goes to show what Jennings in capable,,,and he could well be capable to cause a upset.

I'll put it this way:Jennings 40% to Cottto 60%.You never know!!
01-16-2009, 11:27 PM
Chino

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

Yvonne,
I think Bradley Pryce gave him a bit more pressure. Got connected by straight rights and got knocked down but came back. If those straight rights came from Cotto it would inflict more damage in my opinion.

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Chino, between you and I we have been called "Cotto-Haters" all day. But I dont know man you seem to really inspire some angry feelings. I dont think you bash him in any underminded ways and actually you back your arguments alot better than I do in my opinion. I dont know why you get the backlash and I dont, maybe cuz im better looking and cooler than you......

Heheheheh! Maybe because of that! Lol I have gone through the list of Cotto's opponents before one by one. It's not like many here who just post to bash ODLH. One thing is to talk about his weaknesses, questionable decisions, etc. and debate them and other is to just go "Oh, I can't stand him. I wouldn't pay a nickle for his fights. That fag should disappear from boxing. I hate him!" which we see often in ANY ODLH thread. I don't say things like that about Cotto but still people get sensitive about it. He's the beloved boxer of this forum so saying something that questions his performances, resume, etc. Will make people upset. Now imagine if I posted something like people do for ODHL and said things like "Oh, Cotto is a fag...Cotto should just leave boxing, I can't stand him...".
01-16-2009, 11:34 PM
Onix

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

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Yvonne,
I think Bradley Pryce gave him a bit more pressure. Got connected by straight rights and got knocked down but came back. If those straight rights came from Cotto it would inflict more damage in my opinion.

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Chino, between you and I we have been called "Cotto-Haters" all day. But I dont know man you seem to really inspire some angry feelings. I dont think you bash him in any underminded ways and actually you back your arguments alot better than I do in my opinion. I dont know why you get the backlash and I dont, maybe cuz im better looking and cooler than you......

Heheheheh! Maybe because of that! Lol I have gone through the list of Cotto's opponents before one by one. It's not like many here who just post to bash ODLH. One thing is to talk about his weaknesses, questionable decisions, etc. and debate them and other is to just go "Oh, I can't stand him. I wouldn't pay a nickle for his fights. That fag should disappear from boxing. I hate him!" which we see often in ANY ODLH thread. I don't say things like that about Cotto but still people get sensitive about it. He's the beloved boxer of this forum so saying something that questions his performances, resume, etc. Will make people upset. Now imagine if I posted something like people do for ODHL and said things like "Oh, Cotto is a fag...Cotto should just leave boxing, I can't stand him...".

Ya I agree with you, Cotto is the poster boy here, but I dont take anything away from him either. I like to see him fight I just dont accept all the hype either.
01-17-2009, 12:18 AM
kingfrnk

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

nope. i still think Cotto kos Jennings
01-17-2009, 01:37 AM
CFH

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

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Originally Posted by Chino

Yvonne,
I think Bradley Pryce gave him a bit more pressure. Got connected by straight rights and got knocked down but came back. If those straight rights came from Cotto it would inflict more damage in my opinion.

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Chino, between you and I we have been called "Cotto-Haters" all day. But I dont know man you seem to really inspire some angry feelings. I dont think you bash him in any underminded ways and actually you back your arguments alot better than I do in my opinion. I dont know why you get the backlash and I dont, maybe cuz im better looking and cooler than you......

Heheheheh! Maybe because of that! Lol I have gone through the list of Cotto's opponents before one by one. It's not like many here who just post to bash ODLH. One thing is to talk about his weaknesses, questionable decisions, etc. and debate them and other is to just go "Oh, I can't stand him. I wouldn't pay a nickle for his fights. That fag should disappear from boxing. I hate him!" which we see often in ANY ODLH thread. I don't say things like that about Cotto but still people get sensitive about it. He's the beloved boxer of this forum so saying something that questions his performances, resume, etc. Will make people upset. Now imagine if I posted something like people do for ODHL and said things like "Oh, Cotto is a fag...Cotto should just leave boxing, I can't stand him...".

Ya I agree with you, Cotto is the poster boy here, but I dont take anything away from him either. I like to see him fight I just dont accept all the hype either.

How is Cotto the poster boy here? He's one of the worlds most popular fighters, so of course he's going to have his fans on a boxing forum. I would argue that Calzaghe, Pac, Hatton, PBF (still) and even Hopkins or Williams get as much or more discussion than Cotto does. I'd also wager there are as many Margarito fans here as there are Cotto fans. Off the top of my head, I can think of two people on here who I would consider die-hard Cotto fans.

I wouldn't even call myself a "Cotto fan", I'm a boxing fan, I like to watch fights, but there are very few fighters I would consider myself a legitimate fan of. There are plenty I like to watch, but that's it.
01-17-2009, 01:44 AM
Onix

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

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Yvonne,
I think Bradley Pryce gave him a bit more pressure. Got connected by straight rights and got knocked down but came back. If those straight rights came from Cotto it would inflict more damage in my opinion.

Heheheheh! Maybe because of that! Lol I have gone through the list of Cotto's opponents before one by one. It's not like many here who just post to bash ODLH. One thing is to talk about his weaknesses, questionable decisions, etc. and debate them and other is to just go "Oh, I can't stand him. I wouldn't pay a nickle for his fights. That fag should disappear from boxing. I hate him!" which we see often in ANY ODLH thread. I don't say things like that about Cotto but still people get sensitive about it. He's the beloved boxer of this forum so saying something that questions his performances, resume, etc. Will make people upset. Now imagine if I posted something like people do for ODHL and said things like "Oh, Cotto is a fag...Cotto should just leave boxing, I can't stand him...".

Ya I agree with you, Cotto is the poster boy here, but I dont take anything away from him either. I like to see him fight I just dont accept all the hype either.

How is Cotto the poster boy here? He's one of the worlds most popular fighters, so of course he's going to have his fans on a boxing forum. I would argue that Calzaghe, Pac, Hatton, PBF (still) and even Hopkins or Williams get as much or more discussion than Cotto does. I'd also wager there are as many Margarito fans here as there are Cotto fans. Off the top of my head, I can think of two people on here who I would consider die-hard Cotto fans.

I wouldn't even call myself a "Cotto fan", I'm a boxing fan, I like to watch fights, but there are very few fighters I would consider myself a legitimate fan of. There are plenty I like to watch, but that's it.

I only say that because of what Chino says, if anyone puts Cotto down in anyway Cotto fans jump all over you, they dont see flaws, they dont see weaknesses, they think he's invincible. I am big MArgo fan but I see flaws for days. Cotto fans dont see it
01-17-2009, 01:53 AM
phillies

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

nope. i still think Cotto kos Jennings

Cotto in 7 by KO!
01-17-2009, 03:16 AM
CFH

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

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Ya I agree with you, Cotto is the poster boy here, but I dont take anything away from him either. I like to see him fight I just dont accept all the hype either.

How is Cotto the poster boy here? He's one of the worlds most popular fighters, so of course he's going to have his fans on a boxing forum. I would argue that Calzaghe, Pac, Hatton, PBF (still) and even Hopkins or Williams get as much or more discussion than Cotto does. I'd also wager there are as many Margarito fans here as there are Cotto fans. Off the top of my head, I can think of two people on here who I would consider die-hard Cotto fans.

I wouldn't even call myself a "Cotto fan", I'm a boxing fan, I like to watch fights, but there are very few fighters I would consider myself a legitimate fan of. There are plenty I like to watch, but that's it.

I only say that because of what Chino says, if anyone puts Cotto down in anyway Cotto fans jump all over you, they dont see flaws, they dont see weaknesses, they think he's invincible. I am big MArgo fan but I see flaws for days. Cotto fans dont see it

That's not true at all. I've never heard a Cotto fan argue that he has a iron-clad chin for example, or that he is invincible. I've been here a long time, a lot longer than either one of you, and I've never experienced that.
01-17-2009, 04:06 AM
SaltyBacon

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

i think its ridiculous to question cotto
cotto one of the most serious boxer today is going to crush jennings
01-17-2009, 01:31 PM
TitoFan

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

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How is Cotto the poster boy here? He's one of the worlds most popular fighters, so of course he's going to have his fans on a boxing forum. I would argue that Calzaghe, Pac, Hatton, PBF (still) and even Hopkins or Williams get as much or more discussion than Cotto does. I'd also wager there are as many Margarito fans here as there are Cotto fans. Off the top of my head, I can think of two people on here who I would consider die-hard Cotto fans.

I wouldn't even call myself a "Cotto fan", I'm a boxing fan, I like to watch fights, but there are very few fighters I would consider myself a legitimate fan of. There are plenty I like to watch, but that's it.

I only say that because of what Chino says, if anyone puts Cotto down in anyway Cotto fans jump all over you, they dont see flaws, they dont see weaknesses, they think he's invincible. I am big MArgo fan but I see flaws for days. Cotto fans dont see it

That's not true at all. I've never heard a Cotto fan argue that he has a iron-clad chin for example, or that he is invincible. I've been here a long time, a lot longer than either one of you, and I've never experienced that.

You're absolutely right, CFH. But unfortunately your point will fall on deaf ears.
01-17-2009, 02:29 PM
Onix

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

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I only say that because of what Chino says, if anyone puts Cotto down in anyway Cotto fans jump all over you, they dont see flaws, they dont see weaknesses, they think he's invincible. I am big MArgo fan but I see flaws for days. Cotto fans dont see it

That's not true at all. I've never heard a Cotto fan argue that he has a iron-clad chin for example, or that he is invincible. I've been here a long time, a lot longer than either one of you, and I've never experienced that.

You're absolutely right, CFH. But unfortunately your point will fall on deaf ears.

Please refer to your thread "From the heart" I thought you were tired of bringing up the same thing?
01-17-2009, 02:31 PM
Onix

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

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How is Cotto the poster boy here? He's one of the worlds most popular fighters, so of course he's going to have his fans on a boxing forum. I would argue that Calzaghe, Pac, Hatton, PBF (still) and even Hopkins or Williams get as much or more discussion than Cotto does. I'd also wager there are as many Margarito fans here as there are Cotto fans. Off the top of my head, I can think of two people on here who I would consider die-hard Cotto fans.

I wouldn't even call myself a "Cotto fan", I'm a boxing fan, I like to watch fights, but there are very few fighters I would consider myself a legitimate fan of. There are plenty I like to watch, but that's it.

I only say that because of what Chino says, if anyone puts Cotto down in anyway Cotto fans jump all over you, they dont see flaws, they dont see weaknesses, they think he's invincible. I am big MArgo fan but I see flaws for days. Cotto fans dont see it

That's not true at all. I've never heard a Cotto fan argue that he has a iron-clad chin for example, or that he is invincible. I've been here a long time, a lot longer than either one of you, and I've never experienced that.

I dont care if upu were posting with Jesus. Its impossible for any one poster to read every thread and discussion so just cuz you have not experianced doesnt mean it has not happened
01-17-2009, 02:35 PM
TitoFan

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

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That's not true at all. I've never heard a Cotto fan argue that he has a iron-clad chin for example, or that he is invincible. I've been here a long time, a lot longer than either one of you, and I've never experienced that.

You're absolutely right, CFH. But unfortunately your point will fall on deaf ears.

Please refer to your thread "From the heart" I thought you were tired of bringing up the same thing?

The line between "sometimes annoying" and obnoxious is quite fine, my friend. Tread carefully.

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01-17-2009, 03:07 PM
Onix

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You're absolutely right, CFH. But unfortunately your point will fall on deaf ears.

Please refer to your thread "From the heart" I thought you were tired of bringing up the same thing?

The line between "sometimes annoying" and obnoxious is quite fine, my friend. Tread carefully.

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Oh now I get it, obnoxious to you is when people dont let you get away things, when people question your opionions, or call you out on your posts, or maybe when people talk about P.R. fighters in a negative way? Well then ya I may be obnoxious, but then again so is everyone else on this forum.
01-17-2009, 03:50 PM
CFH

Re: Can Jennings pull off a Shock and beat Cotto?

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I only say that because of what Chino says, if anyone puts Cotto down in anyway Cotto fans jump all over you, they dont see flaws, they dont see weaknesses, they think he's invincible. I am big MArgo fan but I see flaws for days. Cotto fans dont see it

That's not true at all. I've never heard a Cotto fan argue that he has a iron-clad chin for example, or that he is invincible. I've been here a long time, a lot longer than either one of you, and I've never experienced that.

I dont care if upu were posting with Jesus. Its impossible for any one poster to read every thread and discussion so just cuz you have not experianced doesnt mean it has not happened

Obviously I have not read every thread here, that would be impossible. However, if these claims ran as rampant as you claim they do, I would've come across them on several occasions. I have not. Hell, they way you make it sounds, I'd be stumbling across them on a weekly basis.

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