This is the guy that Mayweather is "afraid" of?

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

Mayweather would stop him too. Margarito is nothing special and Shane proved it.

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i'd say it's the opposite, it just goes to show just how talented the welterweight division is, that anyone can beat anyone, like Kellerman said last week, no one is safe, in the welterweight division

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Nobody stops Mayweather. How can Margarito stop somebody he wont be able to hit? I say either he stops margarito or outclasses him in every round.

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how else would he lose? there's only one person who will outbox him and thats shane who very well could stop him too. other than shane...cotto, margarito, clottey, berto, all get pummeled my pbf. paul williams does too. who shane would stop too.

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Originally Posted by DC Amateur Boxing

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

Mayweather would stop him too. Margarito is nothing special and Shane proved it.

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Finally, can I stop hearing about this damn Margarito? lol. Staples Center sure was quiet. I'm so glad Shane whooped his ass.

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You get in a Margarito thread and then bitch about reading about it? Smart that is.

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Originally Posted by RozzySean

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

Mosley knocks Berto the fawk out!To strong inside,accurate and riding HUUUUGE momentum off tonight.Berting off so-so wtf descision where his defensive lapses were glaring and he raised more questions than he answered.

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I am betting you that Shane wouldn't stop Berto, he isn't landing those punches he did on Margarito on Berto. He was having a hard time landing really clean punches on Collazo while Berto did with ease. MOsley was lucky that Luis broke his hand, because him being southpaw and being so quick really gave SHane problems early, then Luis stopped punching. You want to see defensive lapses? Watch Mosley-Wright I and II, Watch Mosley vs Cotto, MOsley vs Vernon Forrest I and II, Mosley vs Vargas I. That is a guy who is easy to hit. Berto may have had defensive problems but Collazo was still landing under 30%, and he hardly landed at all when they were actually boxing. Berto has a way better jab, he is faster than MOsley, a better boxer, he hits harder, I say he can take Mosley's punch, and he is in just as good of shape.

Watch Mosley-Estrada and then Berto-Estrada and you will see who has more power, who is faster, who is better.

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Watch Mosley - Collazo and watch Berto - Collazo. Then you will see who has more power, who is fast, and who is better. :owned:

Don't play that game. It doesn't work. Mosley will KTFO Berto. If they fight, within the next year, let's have a little sig bet. For one month you change you name to BertoNugger and add to your sig "I am not worthy to watch Shane Mosley fight because I'm too stupid to appreciate his greatness."

Throw anything you want at me. I'll change my name to "Sucks Mosleys Balls" or something like that. Whatever you want.

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FUck off Seanie... Collazo was doing fine against Mosley before he broke his and didn't throw punches with any conviction for the rest of the fight. Mosley certainly isnt' that much better than Hatton, and look how much better he did than Hatton against Collazo as well. I know how good MOsley, I've seen almost his entire career.

Who on here said Mosley was going to win this fight, let alone by KO? Half you people don't state what you think, and talk shit after the fact.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

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Originally Posted by No Contest

Once again your on crack thinking Mosely and Mayweather are the same type of fighter. Mayweather could not manhandle Tony like shane did. Mayweather gets pushed to the ropes by ODLH, and Hatton. It would be a totally different fight, so knock off that shit with assuming someone else beat a fighter so anyone can do the same thing to him.

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I find it funny that Taeth tries to come off with well typed posts but in reality here he's saying that because SSM beat Margarito that PBF would beat Margarito which is absurd because SSM and PBF fight nothing alike.
Taeth tries REALLY hard to stir things up for the most part he suceeds cause he gets the replies he wants.
If you notice it's like every thought he has, he creates a thread about it.
Well at least he wont be alone...

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I don't mind Taeth but his posts are generally garbage. After any shock result he always pops up with his definitive analysis and gleefully attempts to point out that he knew it was going to happen that, but he's only ever wise after the event.


Mosely knocking out Margarito like that was a HUGE upset, yes a lot of us thought Mosely's superior speed and skills could get him a win, arguably even a dominant win but to that he could literally obliterate a prime Margarito, coming of his defining win over the p4p king elect and smash him up like he was unthinkable.

I don't think any serious expert could have predicted the guy with the best chin in boxing getting ktfo like that, a sensational win by Mosely and it annoys me that Taeth wants to claims a piece of it, as he does with every big fight upset.

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Ok where did you state Mosley would win or even win in dominating fashion? If anything if you look back when I used to think most of the top WW would beat Margarito, his performance against Cotto gave me real reason to believe that MArgarito would catch and hit Mosley time after time. Wow I didn't anticipate Pacquiao-De La Hoya or Mosley-mArgarito in both cases I said it would be a tough fight, and I posted this thread a round into the fight. After the first round I knew Mosley would win it just by how he was being so physical and not letting Margarito get off at all. How did I take credit for this fight? You make absolutely no sense, I take personal enjoyment that we can actually watch quality WW fight eachother instead of Margarito, but I don't take any credit for MOsley winning, he fought the perfect fight he would with his style.

I wasn't the one hailing Pacquiao-De La Hoya, Mosley-Margarito, Hopkins-Pavlik as the mismatches of the century, sure I thought Margarito was being a pussy because legitimately Williams deserved this fight.

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

i'd say it's the opposite, it just goes to show just how talented the welterweight division is, that anyone can beat anyone, like Kellerman said last week, no one is safe, in the welterweight division

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Nobody stops Mayweather. How can Margarito stop somebody he wont be able to hit? I say either he stops margarito or outclasses him in every round.

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how else would he lose? there's only one person who will outbox him and thats shane who very well could stop him too. other than shane...cotto, margarito, clottey, berto, all get pummeled my pbf. paul williams does too. who shane would stop too.

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Shane wont outbox Mayweather maybe out fight him like he did Tony and Floyd is no Tony. Look at the fighters who beat shane Winky, Cotto, Vernon. All 3 have good boxing skills and a good jab thats how u beat shane and Floyd is a better boxer than those 3 IMO.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

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Originally Posted by No Contest

Once again your on crack thinking Mosely and Mayweather are the same type of fighter. Mayweather could not manhandle Tony like shane did. Mayweather gets pushed to the ropes by ODLH, and Hatton. It would be a totally different fight, so knock off that shit with assuming someone else beat a fighter so anyone can do the same thing to him.

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I find it funny that Taeth tries to come off with well typed posts but in reality here he's saying that because SSM beat Margarito that PBF would beat Margarito which is absurd because SSM and PBF fight nothing alike.
Taeth tries REALLY hard to stir things up for the most part he suceeds cause he gets the replies he wants.
If you notice it's like every thought he has, he creates a thread about it.
Well at least he wont be alone...

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I wasn't trying to stir anythign up here. Mayweather would beat Margarito because its clear Margarito can't deal with speed or clinching or movement. Mayweather would counter punch him for 12 rounds, and everytime Margarito would get in close Mayweather would tie him up if he had to, or block every punch and counter back some more.

I like how I get criticized for liking people like Mayweather and Berto because they have TECHNICAL skills and athletic ability, yet people have no problems wtih Bilbo humping Calzaghe's leg, or half the peopel with spanish decent humping the leg of JMM or Margarito.

Its only the people who like guys like Pacquiao, Mayweather, RJJ, Berto, De La Hoya, etc. that get any discredit for it.

Also if I liked everybody with speed why don't I hump Mosley's leg, or Meldrick Taylor's, or Hearn's, or Calzaghe's, Or Terry Norris's, or Naseem Hamed's, Or Zab Judah's, or Joan Guzman's, or Hector Camacho's, or Benitez's, or Michael Nunn's, or Junior Witter's?

The point is there are a ton of fast athletic guys I only really admire Gamboa, Rigondeaux, Ali, Leonard, Mayweather, RJJ, Pacquiao, and Andre Berto of the truly athletic elite, obviously there is something different I see in these guys than I do in the others and it isn't speed, I mean look how fast Mosley, MT, Calzaghe, Michael Nunn all are... Why don't I like them as well? Benitez, Mosley, Hearns and Calzaghe have had tremendously successful careers.

Also why do I like Cotto, Whitaker, Hopkins, Hatton, Toney, JMM, Barrera etc. so much? The fact is I like really good fighers, who are dominant in fights.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

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Originally Posted by No Contest

Once again your on crack thinking Mosely and Mayweather are the same type of fighter. Mayweather could not manhandle Tony like shane did. Mayweather gets pushed to the ropes by ODLH, and Hatton. It would be a totally different fight, so knock off that shit with assuming someone else beat a fighter so anyone can do the same thing to him.

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I find it funny that Taeth tries to come off with well typed posts but in reality here he's saying that because SSM beat Margarito that PBF would beat Margarito which is absurd because SSM and PBF fight nothing alike.
Taeth tries REALLY hard to stir things up for the most part he suceeds cause he gets the replies he wants.
If you notice it's like every thought he has, he creates a thread about it.
Well at least he wont be alone...

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I wasn't trying to stir anythign up here. Mayweather would beat Margarito because its clear Margarito can't deal with speed or clinching or movement. Mayweather would counter punch him for 12 rounds, and everytime Margarito would get in close Mayweather would tie him up if he had to, or block every punch and counter back some more.

I like how I get criticized for liking people like Mayweather and Berto because they have TECHNICAL skills and athletic ability, yet people have no problems wtih Bilbo humping Calzaghe's leg, or half the peopel with spanish decent humping the leg of JMM or Margarito.

Its only the people who like guys like Pacquiao, Mayweather, RJJ, Berto, De La Hoya, etc. that get any discredit for it.

Also if I liked everybody with speed why don't I hump Mosley's leg, or Meldrick Taylor's, or Hearn's, or Calzaghe's, Or Terry Norris's, or Naseem Hamed's, Or Zab Judah's, or Joan Guzman's, or Hector Camacho's, or Benitez's, or Michael Nunn's, or Junior Witter's?

The point is there are a ton of fast athletic guys I only really admire Gamboa, Rigondeaux, Ali, Leonard, Mayweather, RJJ, Pacquiao, and Andre Berto of the truly athletic elite, obviously there is something different I see in these guys than I do in the others and it isn't speed, I mean look how fast Mosley, MT, Calzaghe, Michael Nunn all are... Why don't I like them as well? Benitez, Mosley, Hearns and Calzaghe have had tremendously successful careers.

Also why do I like Cotto, Whitaker, Hopkins, Hatton, Toney, JMM, Barrera etc. so much? The fact is I like really good fighers, who are dominant in fights.

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So why do u like Hatton who has no defense at all. Unless lead with your face is defense. :confused:

Look Teath i thought Mosley could win but i never expected be so one sided and i did not think he knock him out and as for Collazo i think he could of beat him regardless and he is past his peak so i would say he far better then say a Hatton who in prime was fighting life and death and Berto as well and Mosley is past his peak and he does just as good if not better i think you underrate Mosley alot i never really seen you have anything good to say about him and i dont understand why all Mosley loses i can see even Mayweather having trouble with Forrest and i dont seeing him beating a Winkey and i not sure how good he would be if he was in his late 30s since he quite right at 30 Mosley has fought and beat top contenders and form Oscar to Margrito and between those guys good fighters he never ducked anyone and even at his age beack in pound for pound so tell me what is it that you dont like about him just to ask you.

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

Nobody stops Mayweather. How can Margarito stop somebody he wont be able to hit? I say either he stops margarito or outclasses him in every round.

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how else would he lose? there's only one person who will outbox him and thats shane who very well could stop him too. other than shane...cotto, margarito, clottey, berto, all get pummeled my pbf. paul williams does too. who shane would stop too.

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Shane wont outbox Mayweather maybe out fight him like he did Tony and Floyd is no Tony. Look at the fighters who beat shane Winky, Cotto, Vernon. All 3 have good boxing skills and a good jab thats how u beat shane and Floyd is a better boxer than those 3 IMO.

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winky? are you serious..winky had been at 154 his whole career shane came up from 135....vernon in the first fight caught shane with a right hand seconds after a head butt opened a cut atop shane's head which later was revealed to have caused a concussion. the second fight with vernon neither of them really were that impressive. and cotto v shane was no different than pbf v castillo I..where the young prospect got the decision even though he could have very well lost the fight.

shane has been in the sport as long as floyd..both had 200 amateur fights...shane can outbox floyd...winky and cotto where able to win because shane had forgotten to include the jab in his arsenal. now that its back. He'll give mayweather more than he can handle. ive been saying this since floyd decided to move up past 135. I said he will hand pick the good but less threatening big guys....

CHOP,GATTI,MITCHELL,JUDAH,BALDOMIR,DELAHOYA,HATTON ....

all those fighters are good, but mosley beat a prime oscar twice (in the first fight much more decisively than pbf) and would kayo the rest of them

point is go to vegas sneak into mayweather training camp and listen to roger tell floyd that shane is too strong for him. This will be proven when floyd comes back and fights the winner of hatton v pacman. Then it will be obvious that he wants no part of shane, the same as ray leonard wanted no part of pryor.

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

how else would he lose? there's only one person who will outbox him and thats shane who very well could stop him too. other than shane...cotto, margarito, clottey, berto, all get pummeled my pbf. paul williams does too. who shane would stop too.

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Shane wont outbox Mayweather maybe out fight him like he did Tony and Floyd is no Tony. Look at the fighters who beat shane Winky, Cotto, Vernon. All 3 have good boxing skills and a good jab thats how u beat shane and Floyd is a better boxer than those 3 IMO.

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winky? are you serious..winky had been at 154 his whole career shane came up from 135....vernon in the first fight caught shane with a right hand seconds after a head butt opened a cut atop shane's head which later was revealed to have caused a concussion. the second fight with vernon neither of them really were that impressive. and cotto v shane was no different than pbf v castillo I..where the young prospect got the decision even though he could have very well lost the fight.

shane has been in the sport as long as floyd..both had 200 amateur fights...shane can outbox floyd...winky and cotto where able to win because shane had forgotten to include the jab in his arsenal. now that its back. He'll give mayweather more than he can handle. ive been saying this since floyd decided to move up past 135. I said he will hand pick the good but less threatening big guys....

CHOP,GATTI,MITCHELL,JUDAH,BALDOMIR,DELAHOYA,HATTON ....

all those fighters are good, but mosley beat a prime oscar twice (in the first fight much more decisively than pbf) and would kayo the rest of them

point is go to vegas sneak into mayweather training camp and listen to roger tell floyd that shane is too strong for him. This will be proven when floyd comes back and fights the winner of hatton v pacman. Then it will be obvious that he wants no part of shane, the same as ray leonard wanted no part of pryor.

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First of all SRL NEVER ducked anybody so u can throw that assumption away right now.

And Shane was the Champ at 154 and have just beat Oscar at that weight.

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

Shane wont outbox Mayweather maybe out fight him like he did Tony and Floyd is no Tony. Look at the fighters who beat shane Winky, Cotto, Vernon. All 3 have good boxing skills and a good jab thats how u beat shane and Floyd is a better boxer than those 3 IMO.

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winky? are you serious..winky had been at 154 his whole career shane came up from 135....vernon in the first fight caught shane with a right hand seconds after a head butt opened a cut atop shane's head which later was revealed to have caused a concussion. the second fight with vernon neither of them really were that impressive. and cotto v shane was no different than pbf v castillo I..where the young prospect got the decision even though he could have very well lost the fight.

shane has been in the sport as long as floyd..both had 200 amateur fights...shane can outbox floyd...winky and cotto where able to win because shane had forgotten to include the jab in his arsenal. now that its back. He'll give mayweather more than he can handle. ive been saying this since floyd decided to move up past 135. I said he will hand pick the good but less threatening big guys....

CHOP,GATTI,MITCHELL,JUDAH,BALDOMIR,DELAHOYA,HATTON ....

all those fighters are good, but mosley beat a prime oscar twice (in the first fight much more decisively than pbf) and would kayo the rest of them

point is go to vegas sneak into mayweather training camp and listen to roger tell floyd that shane is too strong for him. This will be proven when floyd comes back and fights the winner of hatton v pacman. Then it will be obvious that he wants no part of shane, the same as ray leonard wanted no part of pryor.

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First of all SRL NEVER ducked anybody so u can throw that assumption away right now.

And Shane was the Champ at 154 and have just beat Oscar at that weight.

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Its not and assumption. Its well known that SRL ducked Pryor. Do the research. And just because two guys the moved up from 135 (Shane and Oscar) fight at 154, doesn't make them real 154pounders like winky who has gone up 170.