Why do people hate Amir Khan so much? (Ring article attached)

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Originally Posted by sanchez786

Regardless whether people here will admit their prejudice or not (maybe it's a subconscious racism), majority of the people dislike Khan simply because he is

A) Of Pakistani background
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B) He is a Muslim

Majority of the folks here that dislike Khan use excuses such as 'He's cocky' (which fighter isn't?) or 'He doesn't fight great competition' yet even when he's stepping up to fight Barrera, posters here find yet ANOTHER excuse to knock him down.

If Amir Khan was a Mexican fighter with the name Jorge Vicario, a Caucasian British Fighter named Bruce Kingston he would not get NEARLY the same heat he currently receives simply because his ethnic background is Pakistani and he's Muslim

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The MAJORITY? That is complete nonsense. Unless you can prove it?

So everyone that criticises Floyd Mayweather for being "cocky" is really hating on the black man?

Everyone that criticises Joe Calzaghe for not fighting "great competition" is really hating on the white man?

Ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by sanchez786

Regardless whether people here will admit their prejudice or not (maybe it's a subconscious racism), majority of the people dislike Khan simply because he is

A) Of Pakistani background
and
B) He is a Muslim

Majority of the folks here that dislike Khan use excuses such as 'He's cocky' (which fighter isn't?) or 'He doesn't fight great competition' yet even when he's stepping up to fight Barrera, posters here find yet ANOTHER excuse to knock him down.

If Amir Khan was a Mexican fighter with the name Jorge Vicario, a Caucasian British Fighter named Bruce Kingston he would not get NEARLY the same heat he currently receives simply because his ethnic background is Pakistani and he's Muslim

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I think people dislike him because he got a really good contract and has fought no one of any real significance, Warren has been protecting him beyond belief and now he has been found out.

I hope he can come back and maybe prove people wrong.

The thing I dislike about him is he is getting in trouble for knocking people down in Bolton Town center whilst jumping a red light, same reason why I cant stand Naseem anymore.

Ok, I'm going to step into this whole race issue, although I before I will say there have been some very good & interesting answers to my question.

In my opinion there is no doubt that some of the hatred towards Khan comes from his race, in some people at least sub-consciously. I've seen a number of people who will get fervently behind any other British fighter going, yet seem to have real disdain for Khan.

However, there are obviously other reasons that play into it that I won't deny such as the PPV deal (which really pissed me off), the talk of taking on Mayweather, Hatton, Pacquiao etc when he still hadn't won anything other than a Commonwealth title, the hype that Warren & the media created round him by virtue of him being a medal winner.

The comparison with Naz has never helped him IMO, because he will never be the same type of fighter & he is nowhere near the cock Naz is. However, this was chiefly created by the media & happily encouraged by those around Khan, the same people who pushed for the PPV deal, principally Asif Valli & Khan's father. They probably thought it was a good idea looking more at Naz' success as a boxer rather than his antics that pissed a lot of people off.

Anyway back to the race issue, & one thing is clear & anyone who read any of the comments sections on British Sports websites after Prescott knocked him out will see that for a number of people his race was a big factor in their dislike. Comments like 'pakistanis are not genetically suited to sports' & 'least he can go back to managing a cornershop' are clearly racist, & these were the ones that weren't immediately deleted by the mods. It has not reached stuff like that on Saddo's thankfully, but I would be lying if I said I hadn't seen stuff that I consider racist on this forum although not necessarily about Amir Khan.

Fenster, I think you are being a bit naive if you don't think that people in London can be openly racist, being an ethnic minority born & raised here I can assure you they very easily can. I remember playing a casual boxing fan on my local football team saying he didn't like Khan because he was 'too big for his own boots'. Maybe being mixed-race I do tend to read more or analyse what people say in a way others might not, but I have definitely heard & read things about Khan that I consider racist. I would also say Fenster that you should take it as a good sign you don't know anyone who's racist about Khan, it just means you keep good company ;)

Missy, I think the support of Khan is more down to identification. Generally people will choose to support a fighter due to either liking their fighting style or because they identify with them on some level. Young, Asian men choosing to support Khan is no different than the young white men (not always big boxing fans) who go out to Las Vegas to support Ricky Hatton, neither bothers me, I would just like it if they would make the effort to know more about the sport in general. I will tell you something else, very few black or Asian people will tell you that you're a racist if you choose to support a white fighter, because there is nothing wrong with it. William Dettloff did a really good article on it online just before the Pavlik-Hopkins fight. I will be honest enough to say that if a black fighter is up against white fighter, & I have no allegiance to either, then I will root for the black guy more. If a white person did the same the other way round it wouldn't be racist, at least no more than me doing it. The Pac-fans don't bother me for their support of Pac, only for their lack of general boxing knowledge.

Sanchez, as you can see above I don't think racism is non-existent here, however suggesting that there cannot be any other reasons to dislike Amir Khan is wrong, and yes whilst I agree that those factors have played some part, the posters here deserve better than being called racists simply on the basis of the Warren factor. If these same posters are singing Frankie Gavin's praises IF he has 20 fights under Warren you will have a point, but until then you simply don't.

I will reiterate though that I feel like some others that Khan's race (& his religion in the current climate) do play a role in the dislike that SOME have for him. He is nowhere near as cocky as other British boxers (Froch, Witter) & yes the hype is irritating but its not his fault, & I'd like to think that if he does beat Barrera than some will start to cut him a bit more slack (also as a final point MAB is a legend who deserves all the support he will get here in a months time). Let's all look forward to a good fight :)

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Ok, I'm going to step into this whole race issue, although I before I will say there have been some very good & interesting answers to my question.

In my opinion there is no doubt that some of the hatred towards Khan comes from his race, in some people at least sub-consciously. I've seen a number of people who will get fervently behind any other British fighter going, yet seem to have real disdain for Khan.

However, there are obviously other reasons that play into it that I won't deny such as the PPV deal (which really pissed me off), the talk of taking on Mayweather, Hatton, Pacquiao etc when he still hadn't won anything other than a Commonwealth title, the hype that Warren & the media created round him by virtue of him being a medal winner.

The comparison with Naz has never helped him IMO, because he will never be the same type of fighter & he is nowhere near the cock Naz is. However, this was chiefly created by the media & happily encouraged by those around Khan, the same people who pushed for the PPV deal, principally Asif Valli & Khan's father. They probably thought it was a good idea looking more at Naz' success as a boxer rather than his antics that pissed a lot of people off.

Anyway back to the race issue, & one thing is clear & anyone who read any of the comments sections on British Sports websites after Prescott knocked him out will see that for a number of people his race was a big factor in their dislike. Comments like 'pakistanis are not genetically suited to sports' & 'least he can go back to managing a cornershop' are clearly racist, & these were the ones that weren't immediately deleted by the mods. It has not reached stuff like that on Saddo's thankfully, but I would be lying if I said I hadn't seen stuff that I consider racist on this forum although not necessarily about Amir Khan.

Fenster, I think you are being a bit naive if you don't think that people in London can be openly racist, being an ethnic minority born & raised here I can assure you they very easily can. I remember playing a casual boxing fan on my local football team saying he didn't like Khan because he was 'too big for his own boots'. Maybe being mixed-race I do tend to read more or analyse what people say in a way others might not, but I have definitely heard & read things about Khan that I consider racist. I would also say Fenster that you should take it as a good sign you don't know anyone who's racist about Khan, it just means you keep good company ;)

Missy, I think the support of Khan is more down to identification. Generally people will choose to support a fighter due to either liking their fighting style or because they identify with them on some level. Young, Asian men choosing to support Khan is no different than the young white men (not always big boxing fans) who go out to Las Vegas to support Ricky Hatton, neither bothers me, I would just like it if they would make the effort to know more about the sport in general. I will tell you something else, very few black or Asian people will tell you that you're a racist if you choose to support a white fighter, because there is nothing wrong with it. William Dettloff did a really good article on it online just before the Pavlik-Hopkins fight. I will be honest enough to say that if a black fighter is up against white fighter, & I have no allegiance to either, then I will root for the black guy more. If a white person did the same the other way round it wouldn't be racist, at least no more than me doing it. The Pac-fans don't bother me for their support of Pac, only for their lack of general boxing knowledge.

Sanchez, as you can see above I don't think racism is non-existent here, however suggesting that there cannot be any other reasons to dislike Amir Khan is wrong, and yes whilst I agree that those factors have played some part, the posters here deserve better than being called racists simply on the basis of the Warren factor. If these same posters are singing Frankie Gavin's praises IF he has 20 fights under Warren you will have a point, but until then you simply don't.

I will reiterate though that I feel like some others that Khan's race (& his religion in the current climate) do play a role in the dislike that SOME have for him. He is nowhere near as cocky as other British boxers (Froch, Witter) & yes the hype is irritating but its not his fault, & I'd like to think that if he does beat Barrera than some will start to cut him a bit more slack (also as a final point MAB is a legend who deserves all the support he will get here in a months time). Let's all look forward to a good fight :)

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Excellent Post! For posters here to state there EXTREME hate for Khan is strictly because of his glass chin and his questionable competition are being ridiculously NAIVE! As you mentioned, subconsciouly, the racism is there yet to cover this, posters CONTINOUSLY you the same excuse about Khan over and over and over again.

Am I excusing Khan of not having his faults and he deserves to be criticized? ABSOLUTELY NOT! I will be the first to say he has a chin made of the finest China. I use to speak about his weak competition but now that's he stepping up to fight Barrera, I have changed my tune in that regard. Yet instead of giving praise to Khan for fighting tough competition, he gets SLAGGED on even more. LOL...the subconcious racism is so apparent, it's mind-boggling.

From all interviews of Khan I've seen, he actually seems to be a decent individual. Critcizing a boxer is one thing. But what I've found on this forum and MANY other is the sheer amount of HATRED expressed towards Khan. I've never seen any boxer that has been HATED on so much as Khan (again criticism is one thing, but HATRED is something else). It seems posters here look for the opportunity to say something negative about him. IMO, as JazMerkin has stated, his Race and Religion have ALOT to do with it. Posters here just refuse to come to terms with their inner racism to admit it.

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Missy, I think the support of Khan is more down to identification. Generally people will choose to support a fighter due to either liking their fighting style or because they identify with them on some level. Young, Asian men choosing to support Khan is no different than the young white men (not always big boxing fans) who go out to Las Vegas to support Ricky Hatton, neither bothers me, I would just like it if they would make the effort to know more about the sport in general. I will tell you something else, very few black or Asian people will tell you that you're a racist if you choose to support a white fighter, because there is nothing wrong with it. William Dettloff did a really good article on it online just before the Pavlik-Hopkins fight. I will be honest enough to say that if a black fighter is up against white fighter, & I have no allegiance to either, then I will root for the black guy more. If a white person did the same the other way round it wouldn't be racist, at least no more than me doing it. The Pac-fans don't bother me for their support of Pac, only for their lack of general boxing knowledge.

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howdy - but I'm at least glad you can see my point? Qui?

Interesting you'll admit to betting on black. Why is that?

As for the hating on Khan because he's muslim/pakistani. Nope check my record. I pretty much hate on all British fighters;D

Something else I'd like to throw in here. Whilst we can admit that some people will hate on Khan because of colour/religion etc. There are plenty of people - and we're all guilty of it who just resort to name calling playground tactics. It doesn't have to have meaning or racist intent.

If a fat knacker walks in front of my car I give 'em abuse. In fact it happened the other day. One frizzy ginger haired cow and her black mate just held up her hand stopped the traffic and sauntered across the road. My language was less than ladylike as they chose to eyeball me.

Am I gingerist or racist? No. But I reserve the right to hurl abuse when people piss me off. That's the point of it.

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Originally Posted by sanchez786

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Ok, I'm going to step into this whole race issue, although I before I will say there have been some very good & interesting answers to my question.

In my opinion there is no doubt that some of the hatred towards Khan comes from his race, in some people at least sub-consciously. I've seen a number of people who will get fervently behind any other British fighter going, yet seem to have real disdain for Khan.

However, there are obviously other reasons that play into it that I won't deny such as the PPV deal (which really pissed me off), the talk of taking on Mayweather, Hatton, Pacquiao etc when he still hadn't won anything other than a Commonwealth title, the hype that Warren & the media created round him by virtue of him being a medal winner.

The comparison with Naz has never helped him IMO, because he will never be the same type of fighter & he is nowhere near the cock Naz is. However, this was chiefly created by the media & happily encouraged by those around Khan, the same people who pushed for the PPV deal, principally Asif Valli & Khan's father. They probably thought it was a good idea looking more at Naz' success as a boxer rather than his antics that pissed a lot of people off.

Anyway back to the race issue, & one thing is clear & anyone who read any of the comments sections on British Sports websites after Prescott knocked him out will see that for a number of people his race was a big factor in their dislike. Comments like 'pakistanis are not genetically suited to sports' & 'least he can go back to managing a cornershop' are clearly racist, & these were the ones that weren't immediately deleted by the mods. It has not reached stuff like that on Saddo's thankfully, but I would be lying if I said I hadn't seen stuff that I consider racist on this forum although not necessarily about Amir Khan.

Fenster, I think you are being a bit naive if you don't think that people in London can be openly racist, being an ethnic minority born & raised here I can assure you they very easily can. I remember playing a casual boxing fan on my local football team saying he didn't like Khan because he was 'too big for his own boots'. Maybe being mixed-race I do tend to read more or analyse what people say in a way others might not, but I have definitely heard & read things about Khan that I consider racist. I would also say Fenster that you should take it as a good sign you don't know anyone who's racist about Khan, it just means you keep good company ;)

Missy, I think the support of Khan is more down to identification. Generally people will choose to support a fighter due to either liking their fighting style or because they identify with them on some level. Young, Asian men choosing to support Khan is no different than the young white men (not always big boxing fans) who go out to Las Vegas to support Ricky Hatton, neither bothers me, I would just like it if they would make the effort to know more about the sport in general. I will tell you something else, very few black or Asian people will tell you that you're a racist if you choose to support a white fighter, because there is nothing wrong with it. William Dettloff did a really good article on it online just before the Pavlik-Hopkins fight. I will be honest enough to say that if a black fighter is up against white fighter, & I have no allegiance to either, then I will root for the black guy more. If a white person did the same the other way round it wouldn't be racist, at least no more than me doing it. The Pac-fans don't bother me for their support of Pac, only for their lack of general boxing knowledge.

Sanchez, as you can see above I don't think racism is non-existent here, however suggesting that there cannot be any other reasons to dislike Amir Khan is wrong, and yes whilst I agree that those factors have played some part, the posters here deserve better than being called racists simply on the basis of the Warren factor. If these same posters are singing Frankie Gavin's praises IF he has 20 fights under Warren you will have a point, but until then you simply don't.

I will reiterate though that I feel like some others that Khan's race (& his religion in the current climate) do play a role in the dislike that SOME have for him. He is nowhere near as cocky as other British boxers (Froch, Witter) & yes the hype is irritating but its not his fault, & I'd like to think that if he does beat Barrera than some will start to cut him a bit more slack (also as a final point MAB is a legend who deserves all the support he will get here in a months time). Let's all look forward to a good fight :)

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Excellent Post! For posters here to state there EXTREME hate for Khan is strictly because of his glass chin and his questionable competition are being ridiculously NAIVE! As you mentioned, subconsciouly, the racism is there yet to cover this, posters CONTINOUSLY you the same excuse about Khan over and over and over again.

Am I excusing Khan of not having his faults and he deserves to be criticized? ABSOLUTELY NOT! I will be the first to say he has a chin made of the finest China. I use to speak about his weak competition but now that's he stepping up to fight Barrera, I have changed my tune in that regard. Yet instead of giving praise to Khan for fighting tough competition, he gets SLAGGED on even more. LOL...the subconcious racism is so apparent, it's mind-boggling.

From all interviews of Khan I've seen, he actually seems to be a decent individual. Critcizing a boxer is one thing. But what I've found on this forum and MANY other is the sheer amount of HATRED expressed towards Khan. I've never seen any boxer that has been HATED on so much as Khan (again criticism is one thing, but HATRED is something else). It seems posters here look for the opportunity to say something negative about him. IMO, as JazMerkin has stated, his Race and Religion have ALOT to do with it. Posters here just refuse to come to terms with their inner racism to admit it.

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Did you read the 2nd to last paragraph of my post, I said the posters on here deserve not to be called racist, I've never seen any evidence that suggests they are. There may be posters on the entire forum who I may feel can be racist, but bringing them up publicly isn't the right way to go about it. They can have their views, but I can also have the view that they're idiots not worth the time of my day & ignore them. But, the posters here have not shown me anything in this thread to suggest their racist, & if there was any one person who I thought was it would be borne out of reading a number of their posts in different topics & threads. I don't believe anyone has said anything throughout this thread that is racist so stop trying to tar certain people with that brush.

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Originally Posted by sanchez786

Excellent Post! For posters here to state there EXTREME hate for Khan is strictly because of his glass chin and his questionable competition are being ridiculously NAIVE! As you mentioned, subconsciouly, the racism is there yet to cover this, posters CONTINOUSLY you the same excuse about Khan over and over and over again.

Am I excusing Khan of not having his faults and he deserves to be criticized? ABSOLUTELY NOT! I will be the first to say he has a chin made of the finest China. I use to speak about his weak competition but now that's he stepping up to fight Barrera, I have changed my tune in that regard. Yet instead of giving praise to Khan for fighting tough competition, he gets SLAGGED on even more. LOL...the subconcious racism is so apparent, it's mind-boggling.

From all interviews of Khan I've seen, he actually seems to be a decent individual. Critcizing a boxer is one thing. But what I've found on this forum and MANY other is the sheer amount of HATRED expressed towards Khan. I've never seen any boxer that has been HATED on so much as Khan (again criticism is one thing, but HATRED is something else). It seems posters here look for the opportunity to say something negative about him. IMO, as JazMerkin has stated, his Race and Religion have ALOT to do with it. Posters here just refuse to come to terms with their inner racism to admit it.

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Bollocks.

I hope Barrera knocks Khans jaw off in to your lap.

Hated on? Check out the threads on Hatton/Mayweather and just about every boxer on the planet.

I think you should be re-named 2Chips. One on each shoulder.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by porkypara

One of the main reasons that people in Britain dont like Khan is because they dont like to see a sucssesfull ,rich Asian bloke.

I know some on here have other reason such as to much media hype/money to soon but thats not exactly his fault is it.

He just fights who gets put in front of him by Warren.


Some dont like him becuse he is calling out the best fighighters in the world at the same time they say he is not fighting good enough opponents.

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People hate Warren because he's a closet ginger and bug eyed?

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thanks for the neg rep because I'm ignorant.;D

& stop picking on me because I'm white.:eek:

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Fenster, I think you are being a bit naive if you don't think that people in London can be openly racist, being an ethnic minority born & raised here I can assure you they very easily can. I remember playing a casual boxing fan on my local football team saying he didn't like Khan because he was 'too big for his own boots'. Maybe being mixed-race I do tend to read more or analyse what people say in a way others might not, but I have definitely heard & read things about Khan that I consider racist. I would also say Fenster that you should take it as a good sign you don't know anyone who's racist about Khan, it just means you keep good company ;)

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Of course there are millions of racists in London. Ive heard/known many - from all walks of life. And of course people will hate on Khan because he's a "paki."

I've never heard anyone slag Khan because he's a Muslim or has Pakistani roots. I'm giving my own personal experience. Just because someone hears racist comments aimed at Khan in a pub, or reads them on a Brit forum, doesn't mean the whole of the UK shares those beliefs.

We're dealing with small groups NOT the majority. As some naive/ignorant people would have you believe ;)

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Originally Posted by sanchez786

From all interviews of Khan I've seen, he actually seems to be a decent individual.

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Tell that to the bloke who he knocked down when he went through a red light speeding .

Top Bloke

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Missy, I think the support of Khan is more down to identification. Generally people will choose to support a fighter due to either liking their fighting style or because they identify with them on some level. Young, Asian men choosing to support Khan is no different than the young white men (not always big boxing fans) who go out to Las Vegas to support Ricky Hatton, neither bothers me, I would just like it if they would make the effort to know more about the sport in general. I will tell you something else, very few black or Asian people will tell you that you're a racist if you choose to support a white fighter, because there is nothing wrong with it. William Dettloff did a really good article on it online just before the Pavlik-Hopkins fight. I will be honest enough to say that if a black fighter is up against white fighter, & I have no allegiance to either, then I will root for the black guy more. If a white person did the same the other way round it wouldn't be racist, at least no more than me doing it. The Pac-fans don't bother me for their support of Pac, only for their lack of general boxing knowledge.

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howdy - but I'm at least glad you can see my point? Qui?

Interesting you'll admit to betting on black. Why is that?

As for the hating on Khan because he's muslim/pakistani. Nope check my record. I pretty much hate on all British fighters;D

Something else I'd like to throw in here. Whilst we can admit that some people will hate on Khan because of colour/religion etc. There are plenty of people - and we're all guilty of it who just resort to name calling playground tactics. It doesn't have to have meaning or racist intent.

If a fat knacker walks in front of my car I give 'em abuse. In fact it happened the other day. One frizzy ginger haired cow and her black mate just held up her hand stopped the traffic and sauntered across the road. My language was less than ladylike as they chose to eyeball me.

Am I gingerist or racist? No. But I reserve the right to hurl abuse when people piss me off. That's the point of it.

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I actually wasn't saying that you were hated on Khan because of his background just that some do. Yes I can see the point you are making, although I don't necessarily agree with it.

I will tend to support a black fighter if I have no other allegiances to the two primarily because of a feeling of idenitification. Its not an intended choice, just a choice that I sub-consciously make. Like I said, I would not consider a white person racist for doing the same.

Regards to the name-calling, true if you're supporting the other fighter calling Khan a prick, cunt or whatever else is a way (if not one I would choose) of putting him off his game. However, anyone calling him a paki is unacceptable, & anyone who does shit like that I would like to see banned from seeing boxing in the way the same is done in football.

On you're last point, if they are pissing you off, yes you reserve the right to hurl abuse. However, if you start hurling racial abuse then you have crossed a line. If I was doing the same pissing you off, then yeah you can call me a cunt, dickhead, whatever. You call me a nigger or half-breed though & you've gone too far. You can call me all kinds of shit, but you don't need to specify my race when abusing me. I've been racially abused by white & Asian people & I pride myself on not lowering myself to the level & being racist back. Smacking the fuckers is far more satisfying anyway ;D

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by porkypara

One of the main reasons that people in Britain dont like Khan is because they dont like to see a sucssesfull ,rich Asian bloke.

I know some on here have other reason such as to much media hype/money to soon but thats not exactly his fault is it.

He just fights who gets put in front of him by Warren.

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People in Britain? Don't you mean SOME people?

Khan is one of the most popular fighters in Britain.

Who are these people that resent his success because of his ethnicity? Personally i don't know any.

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If you dont know anybody who hates Khan just because he is Asian then you must live in a great place .

After his loss people were phoning radio5 live just to gloat.Sad but true.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by porkypara

One of the main reasons that people in Britain dont like Khan is because they dont like to see a sucssesfull ,rich Asian bloke.

I know some on here have other reason such as to much media hype/money to soon but thats not exactly his fault is it.

He just fights who gets put in front of him by Warren.


Some dont like him becuse he is calling out the best fighighters in the world at the same time they say he is not fighting good enough opponents.

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People hate Warren because he's a closet ginger and bug eyed?

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thanks for the neg rep because I'm ignorant.;D

& stop picking on me because I'm white.:eek:

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You neg me first and when I return the neg, you post it here that I negged you? :rolleyes:

And you're white? That's great for you! Would you like a cookie?

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Originally Posted by Plopeater

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Originally Posted by sanchez786

From all interviews of Khan I've seen, he actually seems to be a decent individual.

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Tell that to the bloke who he knocked down when he went through a red light speeding .

Top Bloke

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WHAT A STUPID ERELEVANT COMMENT TO MAKE!

TOSSER!

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by sanchez786

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Ok, I'm going to step into this whole race issue, although I before I will say there have been some very good & interesting answers to my question.

In my opinion there is no doubt that some of the hatred towards Khan comes from his race, in some people at least sub-consciously. I've seen a number of people who will get fervently behind any other British fighter going, yet seem to have real disdain for Khan.

However, there are obviously other reasons that play into it that I won't deny such as the PPV deal (which really pissed me off), the talk of taking on Mayweather, Hatton, Pacquiao etc when he still hadn't won anything other than a Commonwealth title, the hype that Warren & the media created round him by virtue of him being a medal winner.

The comparison with Naz has never helped him IMO, because he will never be the same type of fighter & he is nowhere near the cock Naz is. However, this was chiefly created by the media & happily encouraged by those around Khan, the same people who pushed for the PPV deal, principally Asif Valli & Khan's father. They probably thought it was a good idea looking more at Naz' success as a boxer rather than his antics that pissed a lot of people off.

Anyway back to the race issue, & one thing is clear & anyone who read any of the comments sections on British Sports websites after Prescott knocked him out will see that for a number of people his race was a big factor in their dislike. Comments like 'pakistanis are not genetically suited to sports' & 'least he can go back to managing a cornershop' are clearly racist, & these were the ones that weren't immediately deleted by the mods. It has not reached stuff like that on Saddo's thankfully, but I would be lying if I said I hadn't seen stuff that I consider racist on this forum although not necessarily about Amir Khan.

Fenster, I think you are being a bit naive if you don't think that people in London can be openly racist, being an ethnic minority born & raised here I can assure you they very easily can. I remember playing a casual boxing fan on my local football team saying he didn't like Khan because he was 'too big for his own boots'. Maybe being mixed-race I do tend to read more or analyse what people say in a way others might not, but I have definitely heard & read things about Khan that I consider racist. I would also say Fenster that you should take it as a good sign you don't know anyone who's racist about Khan, it just means you keep good company ;)

Missy, I think the support of Khan is more down to identification. Generally people will choose to support a fighter due to either liking their fighting style or because they identify with them on some level. Young, Asian men choosing to support Khan is no different than the young white men (not always big boxing fans) who go out to Las Vegas to support Ricky Hatton, neither bothers me, I would just like it if they would make the effort to know more about the sport in general. I will tell you something else, very few black or Asian people will tell you that you're a racist if you choose to support a white fighter, because there is nothing wrong with it. William Dettloff did a really good article on it online just before the Pavlik-Hopkins fight. I will be honest enough to say that if a black fighter is up against white fighter, & I have no allegiance to either, then I will root for the black guy more. If a white person did the same the other way round it wouldn't be racist, at least no more than me doing it. The Pac-fans don't bother me for their support of Pac, only for their lack of general boxing knowledge.

Sanchez, as you can see above I don't think racism is non-existent here, however suggesting that there cannot be any other reasons to dislike Amir Khan is wrong, and yes whilst I agree that those factors have played some part, the posters here deserve better than being called racists simply on the basis of the Warren factor. If these same posters are singing Frankie Gavin's praises IF he has 20 fights under Warren you will have a point, but until then you simply don't.

I will reiterate though that I feel like some others that Khan's race (& his religion in the current climate) do play a role in the dislike that SOME have for him. He is nowhere near as cocky as other British boxers (Froch, Witter) & yes the hype is irritating but its not his fault, & I'd like to think that if he does beat Barrera than some will start to cut him a bit more slack (also as a final point MAB is a legend who deserves all the support he will get here in a months time). Let's all look forward to a good fight :)

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Excellent Post! For posters here to state there EXTREME hate for Khan is strictly because of his glass chin and his questionable competition are being ridiculously NAIVE! As you mentioned, subconsciouly, the racism is there yet to cover this, posters CONTINOUSLY you the same excuse about Khan over and over and over again.

Am I excusing Khan of not having his faults and he deserves to be criticized? ABSOLUTELY NOT! I will be the first to say he has a chin made of the finest China. I use to speak about his weak competition but now that's he stepping up to fight Barrera, I have changed my tune in that regard. Yet instead of giving praise to Khan for fighting tough competition, he gets SLAGGED on even more. LOL...the subconcious racism is so apparent, it's mind-boggling.

From all interviews of Khan I've seen, he actually seems to be a decent individual. Critcizing a boxer is one thing. But what I've found on this forum and MANY other is the sheer amount of HATRED expressed towards Khan. I've never seen any boxer that has been HATED on so much as Khan (again criticism is one thing, but HATRED is something else). It seems posters here look for the opportunity to say something negative about him. IMO, as JazMerkin has stated, his Race and Religion have ALOT to do with it. Posters here just refuse to come to terms with their inner racism to admit it.

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Did you read the 2nd to last paragraph of my post, I said the posters on here deserve not to be called racist, I've never seen any evidence that suggests they are. There may be posters on the entire forum who I may feel can be racist, but bringing them up publicly isn't the right way to go about it. They can have their views, but I can also have the view that they're idiots not worth the time of my day & ignore them. But, the posters here have not shown me anything in this thread to suggest their racist, & if there was any one person who I thought was it would be borne out of reading a number of their posts in different topics & threads. I don't believe anyone has said anything throughout this thread that is racist so stop trying to tar certain people with that brush.

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I apologize. I should have been clearer. I'm not labelling ANYONE specifically on this forum. I have NOT mentioned a single posters name in this thread or any others claiming that individual was racist. I'm merely stating that some, NOT all posters on this forum have a hint of racism in their posts with regards to Khan...not ALL posters, but defientely a number that do.

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Tell that to the bloke who he knocked down when he went through a red light speeding .

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You've brought this up twice now and to my recollection, he was apologitic and polite with the individual involved in the accident.

Just wondering why you didn't bring the incident when a psycho approached Khan and dented his car? Khan could have knocked his head clean off, but didn't do a thing?

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One of the main reasons that people in Britain dont like Khan is because they dont like to see a sucssesfull ,rich Asian bloke.

I know some on here have other reason such as to much media hype/money to soon but thats not exactly his fault is it.

He just fights who gets put in front of him by Warren.

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People in Britain? Don't you mean SOME people?

Khan is one of the most popular fighters in Britain.

Who are these people that resent his success because of his ethnicity? Personally i don't know any.

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If you dont know anybody who hates Khan just because he is Asian then you must live in a great place .

After his loss people were phoning radio5 live just to gloat.Sad but true.

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You know, I actually saw this on TV. The host was actually SHOCKED! He stated something like 90% of British fans...90% of British Boxing fans that called in were actually HAPPY Khan was knocked out...

How on earth has this thread turned into a race argument? No way hating on Khan has anything to do with him being a Muslim, suggesting otherwise (subconsciously or not Sanchez) is just silly.

A lot of posters on here (mainly US) hated on Ricky Hatton when he was protected by Warren. They all hated on Joe Calzaghe when he was protected by Warren too. And now they hate on Khan who guess what? Is protected by Warren...

The only reason I can imagine why Khan gets worse stick than Hatton and JC is because us boxing fans are just plain fed up of it by now. To suggest we're all being racist but don't realise it is stupid. :confused:

Out of interest Sanchez786, what is your religion/nationaility?

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I've honestly never heard anyone say they dislike Khan because of his Pakistani roots.

Maybe things are different in London?

Or maybe i don't know any racists.

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I went to a Khan fight to offer some local support, not to Khan. They segregated the fans as they came in, an annoucement came over the speaker system about no racist chants etc not being tolerated and there was a big police pressence.

Annoyed the hell out of me. Especially when a group of lads, all asian, all sporting Khan tracksuits:rolleyes: were sat in the opposing area. As the evening went on them were surrounded by police to protect them. They sat about grinning over the shoulders of the police as a few people were escourted out. The whole event had an air of wtf :confused: about it.

Nothing against them or Khan but, by forcing the fans to segregate and making an issue about Khans colour it draws attention to something that wasn't a problem until other people made it so. I've never been segregated like that in my life.

I don't like Warren and his overprotection of fighters. It harms the fighter and the quality of the sport in general and I don't like bangwaggons, so called fans who just sign up to a sole fighter based on whatever link they think they have with them.

Those who support Khan because of his ethnicity annoy me just as much as those who don't support him because of his ethnicity.

Which is pretty much the feeling I have toward pacfans in general.;D:cool: Hell at least they have a fighter that's done something to shout about.

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Hey Missy Ive never disagreed with you before in the past but I do here . . . . I think its actaully a good thing that they seperate us from the Khan fans for their own saftey and Id advise them to do the same thing on March 14th particularly if Khan wins ;D

As for this whole race thing I didnt realise there was an issue but Ive noticed when I insult Pac fans they always play the race card too. Maybe its just a defence mechanism for asians :-\

Either way, regardless who is the opposite corner I will always back Barrera & if that makes me racist then so be it .

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You've brought this up twice now and to my recollection, he was apologitic and polite with the individual involved in the accident.

Just wondering why you didn't bring the incident when a psycho approached Khan and dented his car? Khan could have knocked his head clean off, but didn't do a thing?

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Fair play to Khan for not reacting, but remember the bloke had a hammer, and Khan is like many top young sportsman, be in boxing , football, etc.

He has plenty of cash and seems to get himself in trouble, although a lot of it is probably due to his clan he hangs around with.

What Amir must remember is he's in the public eye and so far has had an easy ride when so many young talented boxers give up so much more to get half of what Khan gets. He must concentrate on his boxing and not just put himself in the position for trouble.

Before you make comment on me, i live about 6 mile from Bolton and appreciate that there are many people who will want Khan to fail due to his ethnic background, and the attack on hos car may have been racist, I have not read anything about his attacker. Sure there are people who hate Khan due to his background, there are just so many other reasons.

And I would like to see Khan do well being a local lad, except if he fights John Murray

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Quite frankly all the Khan hate confuses me. I really don't see how people call him cocky... I don't know about off-camera, but on camera he's never showed a sign of cockyness to me and I've seen quite a few Khan interviews.

Saying he is fighting powderpuff fighters is also a pretty stupid reason. He is 22, he's still at an early age at his career... hell, Joe Calzaghe fought shitty opponents for the better part of 10 years, I don't see anyone seeing him want to get KTFO? In fact the reality is almost every fighters first 20 or so fights will be a steady building process, gradually increasing the opposition, which in truth he has...

His last 6 fights have been against a..

• A previous world title challenger (correct me if i'm wrong) - Graham Earl
• A ex world champion (again, correct me if i'm wrong) - Gairy St.Clair
• A top 10 lightweight in the WBA rankings - Martin Kristjansen
• A ex WBU champion with decent power, past his best a bit maybe... - Michael Gomez
• A dangerous columbian banger with a almost perfect KO percentage, this one didn't turn out so well of course.. - Breidis Prescott
• And of course Oisin Fagan.... not much to say about him.

Which when you look at it isnt THAT bad. Every boxers first 20 or so fights will be padded slightly, why can't people seem to realise that?

When it all comes down to it I think one thing above all fuels the hate for him, especially in England - his race. Which I think is pretty sad, the boy is british either way. I couldn't care if he was knocked out 10 times in a row, if the boy was british I would be behind him 100% of the way. I'm backing him to beat Barrera and I hope he does, I think it's pretty low when people are running around saying they hope Barrera knocks him out brutally... especially if their british.

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Oison doesnt really count,he normally would,an ex Ammie champ and all,but he broke his foot in that fight early,and as far as I know is retired

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WHAT A STUPID ERELEVANT COMMENT TO MAKE!

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Why is that irrelevant, he jumped a red light and ran someone over, just a reason why people may dislike him, negative press and all that

Nice argument fuckface

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WHAT A STUPID ERELEVANT COMMENT TO MAKE!

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Why is that irrelevant, he jumped a red light and ran someone over, just a reason why people may dislike him, negative press and all that

Nice argument fuckface

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Your the reson a lot of people dont bother with this board any more.

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WHAT A STUPID ERELEVANT COMMENT TO MAKE!

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Why is that irrelevant, he jumped a red light and ran someone over, just a reason why people may dislike him, negative press and all that

Nice argument fuckface

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Your the reson a lot of people dont bother with this board any more.

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reson ?

Can you elaborate

Some real hardcore boxing fans sometimes do not like boxers that become mainstream stars when they know there are more hardened and seasoned professionals out there who deserve more publicity and world title opportunities.

Amir got destroyed by Prescott, he would get beat by Romanov yet he may become an alphabet champion before those figters.

I don't hate him. I just dislike him. :)

I didn't like Audley either from day one

Wasn't a fan of Eubank (till after the two Collins defeats)

Wasn't big on Naz


Hmmm.......

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People in Britain? Don't you mean SOME people?

Khan is one of the most popular fighters in Britain.

Who are these people that resent his success because of his ethnicity? Personally i don't know any.

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If you dont know anybody who hates Khan just because he is Asian then you must live in a great place .

After his loss people were phoning radio5 live just to gloat.Sad but true.

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You know, I actually saw this on TV. The host was actually SHOCKED! He stated something like 90% of British fans...90% of British Boxing fans that called in were actually HAPPY Khan was knocked out...

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This is very misleading.

How many people had their views aired on the show? 20-30? How many actually phoned in - a few thousand? That small amount doesn't represent the views of 90% of British boxing fans.

Khan regularly had audiences of around 4-6 million on ITV. 90% of 6 million is 5,400,000.

So five million regular boxing viewers watched in the hope that Khan gets beaten? Complete nonsense. Khan does GREAT figures because he is POPULAR!!!

A live radio phone-in will naturally attract morons to gloat at others ill fortune. The radio station selects which calls to air. Controversial ones keep people listening and make for a better story ;)

I don't hate him....i don't see why some like him so much when he's done much of nothing,(well he is a prospect and not to much should be expected of the kid yet), but for him to be on ppv is a joke. But if they get people to buy he's probably laughing a lot richer than most of us so who knows.

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I didn't like Audley either from day one

Wasn't a fan of Eubank (till after the two Collins defeats)

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I actually like Naz when he first started, just looking at him cracked me up. For his first few fights he had a side parting and looked like a dusky Charles Hawtrey. When he got a haircut he started to get on my nerves.

Does anybody have a picture of an early side-parting Naz?

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People hate Warren because he's a closet ginger and bug eyed?

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thanks for the neg rep because I'm ignorant.;D

& stop picking on me because I'm white.:eek:

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You neg me first and when I return the neg, you post it here that I negged you? :rolleyes:

And you're white? That's great for you! Would you like a cookie?

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stop your hatred towards me people.

2chips, y'know what I also noticed, everytime a thread about Khan appears you show up saying this forum and others like it are racist towards him.

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I didn't like Audley either from day one

Wasn't a fan of Eubank (till after the two Collins defeats)

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I actually like Naz when he first started, just looking at him cracked me up. For his first few fights he had a side parting and looked like a dusky Charles Hawtrey. When he got a haircut he started to get on my nerves.

Does anybody have a picture of an early side-parting Naz?

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y'know I was probably with you. He started off and looked promising BUT you started to get the feeling the cockiness wasn't an act, the posing over people he knocked down began, the disrespect and the tide turned.

dont hate khan the person and never have done.

I hate the way he is typically built up by the british media to be knocked down.

I hate the fact he gets all the breaks other guys who have worked much harded than him domestically (thaxton, murray) dont.

I also hate the manner this fight has gone about in that having JUST been KO`d in 50 seconds he doesnt deserve to share the ring with an all time great like barrera

Just been chatting with someone whos just got back from the wildcard gym. They say Roach and Khan were extremely friendly and welcoming . She took some pics of Khan working out and sparring . Apparently he looks really quick and sharp .

Things seem to be well in his camp . Id like to hear from Barreras now.

I've been reading reports from Khans camp. What's he's been struggling with etc

Of course if I hear anything from Barrera's camp I'm not going to say anything. I'm here to spy not confess.:cool::lickish:

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so you saing its just cos he's muslim then ?

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Muslim and Pakistani is what I beleive as to why he garners so much hatred. Another poster from England mentioned awhile ago (can't recall the thread) that he was at his local bar where Khan was fighting and he was caught by surprise by the amount of racial obcenities towards Khan...and this was IN ENGLAND. The same country Khan won a Silver Medal for.

The thing I find most amusing on this forum is the NUMBER of excuses posters use to slag Khan when IMO, it's clearly evident that they are using this excuses to express their inner hatred towards Khan simply because of his ethnic and religious background. Of course, they will not come out and say it as they will be seen as 'racist' so why not slag him for his 'glass chin' and 'his ducking competition'.

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Its probably a mixture of everything, so what,chill out.

I dont dislike any race, I like Indian better. I do like Pakistanis :-\ but I couldn't eat a whole one.;)

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so you saing its just cos he's muslim then ?

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Muslim and Pakistani is what I beleive as to why he garners so much hatred. Another poster from England mentioned awhile ago (can't recall the thread) that he was at his local bar where Khan was fighting and he was caught by surprise by the amount of racial obcenities towards Khan...and this was IN ENGLAND. The same country Khan won a Silver Medal for.

The thing I find most amusing on this forum is the NUMBER of excuses posters use to slag Khan when IMO, it's clearly evident that they are using this excuses to express their inner hatred towards Khan simply because of his ethnic and religious background. Of course, they will not come out and say it as they will be seen as 'racist' so why not slag him for his 'glass chin' and 'his ducking competition'.

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Its probably a mixture of everything, so what,chill out.

I dont dislike any race, I like Indian better. I do like Pakistanis :-\ but I couldn't eat a whole one.;)

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Yeah, that's what I said, I don't deny that his race does play a role for some people, but its not the only reason that somebody might dislike him.
Although I think you should specify that you are at the very least an equal opportunities cannibal otherwise sanchez will be after you ;)

yo im'a muslim my self an i dont really respect khan
hes a good fighter but he is soooooo overrated lyk madly
the other day he was talking about fighting pacquiao den he got dropped by presscott who is basically unknown to most.
what pisses me off is that he hasnt really proven himself at a domestic level yet for me.
he hasnt won a british title and doesnt face john murruy whu keeps on offering him out n to be honest khan would probly beat him aswell but doesnt fight him still.

There you have it from a literate Muslim, he has not proven himself. It is not always about race and religion, just that he has not proven himself.

Text messaging should be banned. Or phones should have a spelling/punctuation checker built in that doesn't correct mistakes but charges 10p every time somebody makes one. Britain's English teachers have failed miserably, this is the only way to preseve the language. God knows what the written word will look like twenty years from now.