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I honestly I would rather somebody who isn't totally overwhelmed by Mayweather's skills, I think MArquez and Pacquiao stand a better chance than Cotto because speed against Floyd is more important than size. People talk about Floyd size advantage, but he doesn't use size that way. He is about an inch taller than Pacquiao or Marquez and will probably weigh just a few pounds more than them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Well i would think that Mosley is pretty close to Pac when it comes to speed and his power and chin i would say are better to Teath. Reason i say chin is because Pac never proved anything over 135 on how he can take a punch i mean he never got hit by Dela hoya how do we know.
Well... I don't think we can call JMM a tune up fight... I would rather call it a real test. As much as I do hate Floyd (and the devil knows how much it can be), if he takes JMM as a first fight after his lay-off, he will have much respect from my behalf for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
He certainly showed against Hatton that he's not afraid to be messy on the inside.. I think that gives him a great new wrinkle to an already stellar arsenal..Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethI honestly I would rather somebody who isn't totally overwhelmed by Mayweather's skills, I think MArquez and Pacquiao stand a better chance than Cotto because speed against Floyd is more important than size. People talk about Floyd size advantage, but he doesn't use size that way. He is about an inch taller than Pacquiao or Marquez and will probably weigh just a few pounds more than them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Mayweather took shots from Oscar and Judah cleanly and was fine, both hit a lot harder than Marquez, I am not saying anything can't happen, but Marquez is the least likely person out of him, Cotto, Pacquiao, and Mosley to stop Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
Pacquiao may give PBF trouble, but he also may be too small for PBF at welterweight. At 140 or at 135, and you have a tough fight to pick. A bigger version of Pacquiao would give PBF trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
The fight I most want to see is against Mosley. He showed me a lot against Margarito. Depending on Cotto's performance against Clottey, he would be my second pick.
PBF may be a natural 130 pound fighter but he is fighting now at welterweight. Hatton is not a natural welterweight. Pacquiao is not a natural welterweight. Mosley may be a natural welterweight. Cotto is a natural welterweight. Maybe Williams at 147 if he beats Winky?
Tune up eh:headscratch:
Cue the resurection of.........
Bestill my heart. father had a saying....pizz or get off the pot already:cwm13: .Could honestly take him or leave him,Yes outstanding talent.Even bigger ego-king and school yard bellower.Seems we see this every other month.Im betting and convinced that talks of a JMM fight have been in the works for a while.Marquez did not just call him out on instinct I believe.
I hope he doesn't come back!! All he is gonna do is pick and choose who he will fight and for how much money. Boxing needs more people like JMM who is willing to fight the best. PBF can do us all a favor and continue rapping or doing whatever the hell he does but not boxing.
How many people actually thought he was "retired" for good?
I always felt it was more an extended leave or vacation where he could relax and pursue the sport in due time.
At 32 he is still young...a lot younger than many other active champs and aside from his hands the physical wear and tear on his body has to be less than the majority of fighters.
He definitely wants the Pac fight, it's certainly the biggest in terms of payday and excitement it would generate.
Good to see other names being discussed as well such as SSM and JMM, but I think he'd rather take a rematch with Hatton before one of those fights. Even though it makes less fight sense and dissapoint a lot of fans it would make a lot more money cents..
It will be good to see floyd back. Hopefully he stays back for a few more fights and this isn't just a big pay day and run thing.
You are contradicting yourself, you are saying Mayweather maybe a NATURAL 130 pounder, but because he is fihgitng at 147 he is different than other guys who aren't NATURAL 147 pounders? Its Mayweather's speed and skill which allows him to fight at 147, just like Pacquiao would enjoy success at 147 pounds. The fact is Hatton is bigger than Floyd in everyway except height and length, he is stockier, he weighs more naturally, and except for height Pacquiao has weighed in right up at the same weight as Floyd, and still looks fit. At 147 Pacquiao looked like the same fighter he was at 135 or 130, maybe a little slower which is natural, but he definitely wasn't burdened by the fact he was in a welterweight body.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratPacquiao may give PBF trouble, but he also may be too small for PBF at welterweight. At 140 or at 135, and you have a tough fight to pick. A bigger version of Pacquiao would give PBF trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
The fight I most want to see is against Mosley. He showed me a lot against Margarito. Depending on Cotto's performance against Clottey, he would be my second pick.
PBF may be a natural 130 pound fighter but he is fighting now at welterweight. Hatton is not a natural welterweight. Pacquiao is not a natural welterweight. Mosley may be a natural welterweight. Cotto is a natural welterweight. Maybe Williams at 147 if he beats Winky?
Floyd frustrates me, I know he is dam good but its how good, you know he has another level, as when he is put under intense pressure he manages an exciting fan friendly performance and that's why I get a little annoyed, you can't miss a Floyd fight who ever he is fighting but to have to stay up until 3am to watch a fight that my head knows who will win before the bell goes gets a bit much, as to who I would like to see Jnr get it on with after his tune up, it would be Cotto or Mosley, both small welters height wise.
amazing for all the hatred of this guy, people sure are giddy as hell anytime the guys name is mentioned. Why do people want to see such a crappy cheating running fighter so so bad ??!! Up go the hopes of people with various favorite fighters, here's to another 60 dollars wasted hoping my guy can beat him....this will never end i guess. Ok ok so i guess the question now is who supposidly is the guy we all supposed to root for now, lol it almost feels like the movie unforgiven where everyone is putting thier cash into a pot to hire some big assasin to take this guy out....and just like the movie he gets beat and we go through his pockets to save up money for the next assasin listed in the phone book with recent success ha ha.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
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Well if this is true i have to say " Bienvenue " :happy0931sb4:, this WW Division would be grandiose now jejejejeejeee
How is he a cheater? He is an amazing fighter, and people aren't wasting their money if they appreciate boxing, thats why I don't get why half the people on this forum are on it. Why watch boxing if you don't appreciate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
Well i know that JT Rock will be very , very Happy now , ahhh JT jejejee , one of his fav. boxer probably return again..........;D
Im glad that you will be Happy JT my friend........
Floyd isnt willing to fight the best?Quote:
Originally Posted by scraptime
He said he would come out of retirement for Pacquiao, Mosley or JMM And you say he isn't willing to fight the best?
I cant wait: YES!!!!!! I hope he fights Shane Mosley
forget about it. PBF will be a pretty boy always and forever. Just because he doesn't lose doesn't make him the best.
He will NOT fight a real opponent <140 aside from DLH and Zab we all got to see where they really were as fighters. Can we say "hand picked" opponents??
He will continue to hand pick his ooponents I.E. no Mosley, no Cotto, no Paul Williams, no nothing, just little guys. He will definitely pick someone who has no chance of KOing him. You have to think he doesn't want to go out like SRL did, right?
He has pillaged boxing and brought nothing to the sport but shame. He takes everyone's money from the fights and waves it in their face. Don't people get tired of seeing that crap?
Oh yeah F*** PBF. Almost forgot.
Tell you what. Guys that will beat Floyd. Nate Campbell, Guzman (barely), Pacman (barely), Cotto, Mosley, Kirkland, and Williams. He will not fight the last 4
I want to see him knock Pacquiao out then fight Mosley and Cotto.
Let's be fair PBF SAYS a lot. SAYS a LOT. I mean, sheeeit, Sakio Bika is calling out Bernard Hopkins. Talk is cheap. He's already trying to create controversy with the fight date before he even signs a deal. I hope he stays retired so bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyFloyd isnt willing to fight the best?Quote:
Originally Posted by scraptime
He said he would come out of retirement for Pacquiao, Mosley or JMM And you say he isn't willing to fight the best?
I thought after the comments he made about racist HBO they wouldn't hand him over to Showtime.
Is anyone keeping track of how many times Dan Rafael has said a source close to Mayweather has announced he's coming back?
Are you delusional? Nate Campbell and Kirkland??? They'd beat Mayweather ??? Alright there's a point where constructive criticism just becomes hate.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyFolds
Floyd has been missed imo he has been retired since he beat Hatton and still people talk about the man.I wanna see him back in the mix.
Maybe he thinks if he says it enough.... it will happen!Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
No disrespect for considering JMM as a tune-up fight... PBF been on a 15 months layoff and the source said July 11 will be PBF's tune-up fight... If PBF will pick JMM for this date then JMM is his tune-up opponent...Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessWell... I don't think we can call JMM a tune up fight... I would rather call it a real test. As much as I do hate Floyd (and the devil knows how much it can be), if he takes JMM as a first fight after his lay-off, he will have much respect from my behalf for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Styles makes fights and I think JMM's style won't be a problem to Floyd Jr. JMM is not an aggressive boxer and if he will just wait for PBF and counterpunch, PBF will just potshot him to a wide UD victory... Aside from the style, JMM is just too small and very old for Floyd... If the young, slick Chris John gave JMM major problems then much more with Floyd whom is 100x more slicker and skillful than John...
JMM is not a real test... PBF has all the advantages (except experience) and will be the heavy favorite to win this match-up... Tune-up fight is a fight where you are expected to win easily... PBF is expected to win easily over JMM...
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Very true as a fighter he is such a different person then he is outside the ring...Outside the ring he is like a little kid who is screaing "Lookl at me guys I am cool, Really I am look"...and becomes the excat opposite in doing so...In the ring he is a professional, mature, relaxed and after his fight he is even humble at times.....Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethIts funny I've always though that his identity outside the ring is polar opposite to how he conducts himself in the ring. He so composed, so calculated, and so risk free. When I see him outside of the ring I think how can this punk ass bitch fight, but in the ring he's a completely different person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
I don't get the guy...It is almost as if he is trying to prove something else besides what he has as a professional......
creating interest selling fights, getting ratings. Floyd is a brilliant fight seller.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnVery true as a fighter he is such a different person then he is outside the ring...Outside the ring he is like a little kid who is screaing "Lookl at me guys I am cool, Really I am look"...and becomes the excat opposite in doing so...In the ring he is a professional, mature, relaxed and after his fight he is even humble at times.....Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethIts funny I've always though that his identity outside the ring is polar opposite to how he conducts himself in the ring. He so composed, so calculated, and so risk free. When I see him outside of the ring I think how can this punk ass bitch fight, but in the ring he's a completely different person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
I don't get the guy...It is almost as if he is trying to prove something else besides what he has as a professional......
Tell me how any of those fighters would beat Floyd? The only guy that could pose a threat is Mosley. Pacquiao is too small and vulnerable to counterpunching. Cotto is strong but Floyd is too fast and wouldn't get hit. Everyone else... please... I can understand people mentioning Mosley (remember he is vulnerable to jabs) because he is strong and fast but please, for your own sake, dont say PBF would loose to all those other guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyFolds
I think he beats Mosley by UD.Mosley is bigger stronger and has speed but Flody will dominate him behind his jab,Mosley has always struggled with people that can jab and Floyd will take advantage of that.
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Originally Posted by littlebif
I knew it.
He went away and we missed him.
He'll be ten times as poplular now he's back.
When he actually signs the contract and the promos for the fight start filling my email...Until then it is just talk....I have not heard PBF say himself he is coming back on such and such a date.....
Floyd wil not come back and take on JMM right away...PBF is no fool he knows after the layoff he wants a rust shaker...JMM is not the man to do it with
Besides he knows if he fights a lesser opp...someone in the top 10 but not top 10 P4P a dominate performance wil build up sales more.....
This post is a joke for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyFolds
At least i hope that was the intent.