Great call Mick.Briscoe was as hard as a rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Great call Mick.Briscoe was as hard as a rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
emanuel augustus is one of the most talented journeymen i have ever seen.
Antwun Echols.
If he would have fought William Joppy or Keith Holmes for their MW belts then he would have been a world champion.
Instead he took on the best, Bernard Hopkins, twice, and ended becoming a name opponent and trial horse for young fighters.
Agreed Herol was just unlucky, even if he fought today he would find a way to lose the fight. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Old school! Would have to go to the great Sam Langford
New school! Buck Smith, Emmanuel Augustus, Micky Ward and Gerry Cooney
I remember seeing pieces on him about how he and a couple of his 'opponents' would travel from arena to arena and have like 2,3,4 fights in a week.Honestley he has more padding than a highschool prom and TONS of No descisions,unsanctioned fights.Used to sleep in his car...have gloves,will travel life career.Really a nice guy.Had a frigging war with Kevin Pompey and went into a couple of guys backyards and just trounced them On ESPN.Traveling gypsy of the journeymen.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09
Buck Smith KO ed Kirkland Land
i was a fan of neary good solid fighter, what a fight spark in the park shea neary vs andy holigan. i want to that fight on dvd
favorite boxer to never win was charley burley avoided by the likes of sugar ray robinson who was quoted " he was too pretty to fight charley burley".
Weird I just got through posting Emanuel Augustus vs Ward and Burton on the "Fighters Defined By Their Loses" thread!
I didn't really know about him at the time, but I kinda like Earnie Shavers. He had power, but he really got tough draws on his title fights! "Earnie hit me so hard, he shook my kinfolk back in Africa!" - Ali after the fight.
One that always springs up when this subject comes up is Harold Brazier.A consummate low key workman professional of 20 + years.Nothing glaring in one category but a bit of a consistent cutie,a thinker who had a few shots with closest seeing him have champion Roger Mayweather reeling and all but flat KO'd prior to the Mayweathers title clash with JCC.
the following fighters could've, should've been world champions but for some reason either they fought in a very tough division or just had bad luck:
baby arizmendi - featherweight - old-timer - 71-27-13 13 KO's
ruben castillo - featherweight - fought in the 70's and 80's and fought the best of that era. really hardluck fighter. 69-10-2 37 KO's
alvaro "yaqui" lopez - light heavyweight - tough as nails fighter who fought i believe in the division's heyday era (1970's). 61-15 39 KO's.
mike ayala - super bantamweight - great technician who just fell short numerous times. 45-6 23 KO's.
art "golden boy" aragon - lightweight - the original "golden boy" who was extremely popular in los angeles in the 50's. was los angeles' first big superstar and was known to date many hollywood starlets. by the way, was originally from belen, new mexico which is about 40 miles from albuquerque where i live. 90-20-6 62 KO's.
Terrance Ali was unlucky.
Don't think Sam Langford ever won a world title but that's going back abit.
Bob Satterfield, Ted Lowery, and Roland LaStarza.
Has Sakio Bika won a title? I think he is fun to watch and always up for a scrap.
Ike Ibeabuchi...What might have been.
Poor Angel Manfredy. Beats Gatti when Gatti has just moved up to 135 WITHOUT HIS 130 LBS TITLE. Gets trashed by Mayweather for the WBC 130 lbs title. Has a great win against Ivan Robinson. No title at stake. Loses "the closest one-sided fight ever" against slick Stevie Johnston for WBC 135 lbs title. Cuts back down to 130 to almost get decapitated by Diego Corrales for the IBF title. Beats previously unbeaten blue chip prospect Julio Diaz in a 135 lbs IBF title eliminator and then loses a close one to champ Spadafora. Rounds up a couple of decent wins to rebuild as usual but gets plastered by relative unknown and retires a year later.
He's especially close to my heart because I watched almost all of his big fights live. No luck.
I think Andy Lee will become excellent, it's just that after his surprise defeat, stewart decided to go a bit slower on the kid and to stop putting pressure by saying he was the next big thing. Let's see but I feel that one good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
David Tua. It's amazing that John Ruiz has 1 before him.
Thats a good call Mick Benny Briscoe, great Fighter at that time.
Bob Satterfield, Jerry Quarry and Watson
herol graham and mark kaylor and dave boy green
He may change this, but it would definitely have to be Librado Andrade
What about Kirkland Laing... awesome natural talent but no dedication.
The last I heard Kirkland was living as a wino rough on the streets... what a waste.
I would have to go for the Great Peter Buckley - he fought pretty much everyone that was anyone over the last 15yrs ;D