Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley
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GAME
I think thats more down to the Brits knowing Floyd through the Hatton fight. Had Shane knocked Hatton out he would be better known in London but I think Shane is more popular than Floyd. If someone did a poll of who is more liked Shane wins it hands down.
Nope, a very big number of those there are kids from the inner-cities like myself, a lot of who know Floyd more because he rolls with people in rap & because of his success. Where I live Mayweather is WAY more popular than Hatton, in fact I'd say people who wouldn't know who Hatton or Calzaghe is, know Floyd Mayweather. He's by far the most popular boxer for younger people, for most of whom Shane Mosley just doesn't register. Mosley may be more popular among boxing fans, but not the general public.
thats funny cause here in the states floyd is not really known to "roll" with people in rap. You only really see him with 50 cent in youtube clips. Where you live Floyd is bigger than hatton and Calzaghe? so where exactly do you live? Im suprise really unless you live here in the states too cause for sure floyd is bigger then any british fighter here.
Game is right, Shane is actually more known then floyd. Shanes two big fights with Oscar brought him to the public eyes way before floyd was heard of. Plus having the name "sugar" gets you extra attention. I think anybody who knows any sport knows the name "sugar" now a days i think shane is the icon when that name comes up.
Really, so he isn't up in the Ludacris video, or he doesn't hang around with people like Young Jeezy, Luda & Ray J? Well, they must photoshop him into the pictures with them in magazines. You may surprised. Alright, let me put this a more base way, that in the inner-cities of LONDON particularly 'black' areas, kids are far more likely to idolize Floyd Mayweather or Roy Jones, than Ricky Hatton or Joe Calzaghe, & they are more likely to be known to non-boxing fans. Is that clear? There is no way Shane is more well-known than Floyd, compare the respective PPVs. Shane is also one of my favourite fighters, but let's face it he's not a big draw, not even in his own city was Shane the draw fighter. That's not his fault, it's more down to the way Jin Mosley mismanaged his career, post-Oscar. That you say Shane is 'the icon' when the name Sugar comes up is just plain ridiculous, you can't even compare his popularity with that of Sugar Ray Leonard, & I would go as far to say that Ray Robinson is still more recognizable as 'Sugar'. Shane is a true ATG in my eyes, but a guy who has transcended the sport he is sadly not.
Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley
Floyd "No testicles" Mayweather hand picks his fights obviuosly! Is JMM good? absolutly but he's naturally smaller. Floyd is one of these types of guys who likes to compile a lot of big names on their resume but arn't the top notch challenges.:mad: Pound for pound I think JMM is every bit as good as Mosley and Cotto but for Mayweather to say he's the biggest challenge:rolleyes:, he's gotta step up to the plate! Floyd vs Shane would be tricky. Mayweather might be the more "on target guy" but I don't think he would be able to keep up with Mosley's work rate (A big reason he should have lost to Castillio, and a reason he may lose to JMM!) The great thing about Pacquiao now is that he has as much pulling power if not more than Mayweather, so Mayweather might have to come close to 140 for Manny to fight him! I love the 130-147 weight ranges right now, probly loaded with its most talent in history and so many fights to be made!;D
Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley
This is a fight I waish we could have taken both men at put them at their 135lb best. I would take Mosley by KO then as well
Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley
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Well, what can I say. I'm a huge Mosley nuthugger. Mayweather's just so afraid of him, IMO. They could have fought before but PBF's been ducking him.lol.
Mayweather's afraid to get SUGAR SHANED!!!:cool:
I guess you've missed the numerous times PBF has called Mosley out. Maybe you also missed the time when Shane was asked about a proposed Mayweather fight and he essentially refused it.
Here's an interview with PBF where he mentions Mosley as a possible opponent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEHF5HX6Jb0
Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley
Yes but theres a difference in saying someone's name and stepping up to the plate when the time comes!
Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley
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Yes but theres a difference in saying someone's name and stepping up to the plate when the time comes!
The only time (recently) that it was an easy fight to make, Mosley turned it down when asked, saying he was going on vacation or something like that. Which is fine, but it's asinine to state that PBF has been ducking Mosley for years etc. because it's simply not true.
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The great thing about Pacquiao now is that he has as much pulling power if not more than Mayweather, so Mayweather might have to come close to 140 for Manny to fight him!
This is never going to happen, Floyd himself said, "I'm not going around chasing these fighters, they have to come to me. I don't need Pacquiao, my legacy is already great enough, Pacquiao needs me." It seems pretty clear to me that Mayweather is not going to come down to 140 for Manny.
Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley
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He won the linear and ring championship from Baldomir and beat his predecessor Zab Judah before him. When did he have the oppertunity to fight Cotto? Cotto's defining fight was against Mosley, and that took place weeks if not a week before Mayweather-Hatton after which Mayweather retired. Margarito is obviously a joke, if he couldn't deal with Mosley's movement and defensive skills how would he land a punch on Mayweather? Let alone beat him... And no Mayweather didn't stick around, he went up to 154 to win a belt against Oscar De La Hoya who was arguably the best fighter at 154 at the time. Then he beat Hatton who people had wanted Floyd to fight for 4 or 5 years? Sure Mosley knocked out Mayorga, but that was in the twelth round, look at what Oscar did to Mayorga, and that was a better Mayorga.
Also its ironic, Thought Mosley had already moved up to 147, Mayweather was calling him out to fight at 135-140ish, and Mosley refused saying he was p4p#1, and that Mayweather wasn't worth his time monetarily.
I wouldnt listen to Floyd haters really. If Floyd had moved up and beat Cory Spinks who was the best at 154 they would have just said that Spinks was nothing special and he should have fought Oscar. It doesn't matter. People try to say the belts dont matter so you fight this guy and that guy but when Floyd fights and beats them they say "What about the guy holding the belt there" etc.
Floyd is the one who insists he is as great as the likes of SRL.
He also insists he is the 'cash cow' of boxing, which he clearly isn't.
He has avoided Cotto, Margarito and Mosley when they were all fighting each.
He still says he is the best P4P fighter in the world, like boxing was somehow frozen in time in his absence.
Says Mosley is not 'worthy' due to having 5 losses on his record. Gatti and Baldomir must have been lucky......or was it Gatti's popularity and a piss poor undisputed champ that swayed him?
These are my MAJOR beefs regarding Floyd.
He is an exeptional talent but too shit scared of losing his 0, so we won't ever find out how great he
could of been.
You should understand that a fighter needs to call you out in order for you to duck them. Floyd was calling Mosley out when he was at the lower weights and it never happened. And No one was clamoring for Mosley to fight Floyd after he lost to Wright, or after he lost to Cotto or looked average against Mayorga. They ONLY started begging for it after Mosley stopped Margarito and Mayweather was already retired. So people need to stop acting like Floyd was ducking Mosley. As far as I know Cotto never tried to make the fight with Mayweather. When Cotto was taking step up fights against Zab Judah was when Floyd was at 154 and fighting Oscar De La Hoya and then he fought Hatton and retired. So I can't think of a time Floyd would duck Cotto, if you got one tell me. And can we stop bringing up Margarito already? That dead horse has been beaten to death.
Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley
Didn't Mosley turn a fight with Floyd down once because he said he had toothache, or some similar bs excuse?
I've got to say I'm surprised with all these ESPN boxing interviews. I think GBP are behind this, they're doing everything they can to get their promotions more mainstream publicity. It's strange how suddenly Shane Mosley's next fight options have become worthy of national speculation and it does look like Mosley is just there doing a bit of promotion work. IIRC Oscar is friendly with one of the top executives at Disney who own ESPN. It's all good news for boxing anyway.
Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley
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Majesty
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I wouldnt listen to Floyd haters really. If Floyd had moved up and beat Cory Spinks who was the best at 154 they would have just said that Spinks was nothing special and he should have fought Oscar. It doesn't matter. People try to say the belts dont matter so you fight this guy and that guy but when Floyd fights and beats them they say "What about the guy holding the belt there" etc.
Floyd is the one who insists he is as great as the likes of SRL.
He also insists he is the 'cash cow' of boxing, which he clearly isn't.
He has avoided Cotto, Margarito and Mosley when they were all fighting each.
He still says he is the best P4P fighter in the world, like boxing was somehow frozen in time in his absence.
Says Mosley is not 'worthy' due to having 5 losses on his record. Gatti and Baldomir must have been lucky......or was it Gatti's popularity and a piss poor undisputed champ that swayed him?
These are my MAJOR beefs regarding Floyd.
He is an exeptional talent but too shit scared of losing his 0, so we won't ever find out how great he
could of been.
You should understand that a fighter needs to call you out in order for you to duck them. Floyd was calling Mosley out when he was at the lower weights and it never happened. And No one was clamoring for Mosley to fight Floyd after he lost to Wright, or after he lost to Cotto or looked average against Mayorga. They ONLY started begging for it after Mosley stopped Margarito and Mayweather was already retired. So people need to stop acting like Floyd was ducking Mosley. As far as I know Cotto never tried to make the fight with Mayweather. When Cotto was taking step up fights against Zab Judah was when Floyd was at 154 and fighting Oscar De La Hoya and then he fought Hatton and retired. So I can't think of a time Floyd would duck Cotto, if you got one tell me. And can we stop bringing up Margarito already? That dead horse has been beaten to death.
Floyd Mayweather JR despite how good he is in the ring has made a career of picking fights at the right time or targeting the right champion at their weakest.
I will not make the the arguement let the record speak for itself. Do the research, see what was going on with his opponents personal lives at the time of the signing of the fights.....
Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley
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Majesty
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Floyd is the one who insists he is as great as the likes of SRL.
He also insists he is the 'cash cow' of boxing, which he clearly isn't.
He has avoided Cotto, Margarito and Mosley when they were all fighting each.
He still says he is the best P4P fighter in the world, like boxing was somehow frozen in time in his absence.
Says Mosley is not 'worthy' due to having 5 losses on his record. Gatti and Baldomir must have been lucky......or was it Gatti's popularity and a piss poor undisputed champ that swayed him?
These are my MAJOR beefs regarding Floyd.
He is an exeptional talent but too shit scared of losing his 0, so we won't ever find out how great he could of been.
You should understand that a fighter needs to call you out in order for you to duck them. Floyd was calling Mosley out when he was at the lower weights and it never happened. And No one was clamoring for Mosley to fight Floyd after he lost to Wright, or after he lost to Cotto or looked average against Mayorga. They ONLY started begging for it after Mosley stopped Margarito and Mayweather was already retired. So people need to stop acting like Floyd was ducking Mosley. As far as I know Cotto never tried to make the fight with Mayweather. When Cotto was taking step up fights against Zab Judah was when Floyd was at 154 and fighting Oscar De La Hoya and then he fought Hatton and retired. So I can't think of a time Floyd would duck Cotto, if you got one tell me. And can we stop bringing up Margarito already? That dead horse has been beaten to death.
Floyd Mayweather JR despite how good he is in the ring has made a career of picking fights at the right time or targeting the right champion at their weakest.
I will not make the the arguement let the record speak for itself. Do the research, see what was going on with his opponents personal lives at the time of the signing of the fights.....
look at what was going on in the personal life of Marco Antonio Barerra prior to the first Pacquiao fight. But I don't see anyone complaining about that :)
Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley
Mosley - Mayweather needs to happen next.
It's the best fight out there at welterweight.
Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley
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Majesty
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You should understand that a fighter needs to call you out in order for you to duck them. Floyd was calling Mosley out when he was at the lower weights and it never happened. And No one was clamoring for Mosley to fight Floyd after he lost to Wright, or after he lost to Cotto or looked average against Mayorga. They ONLY started begging for it after Mosley stopped Margarito and Mayweather was already retired. So people need to stop acting like Floyd was ducking Mosley. As far as I know Cotto never tried to make the fight with Mayweather. When Cotto was taking step up fights against Zab Judah was when Floyd was at 154 and fighting Oscar De La Hoya and then he fought Hatton and retired. So I can't think of a time Floyd would duck Cotto, if you got one tell me. And can we stop bringing up Margarito already? That dead horse has been beaten to death.
Floyd Mayweather JR despite how good he is in the ring has made a career of picking fights at the right time or targeting the right champion at their weakest.
I will not make the the arguement let the record speak for itself. Do the research, see what was going on with his opponents personal lives at the time of the signing of the fights.....
look at what was going on in the personal life of Marco Antonio Barerra prior to the first Pacquiao fight. But I don't see anyone complaining about that :)
Pacquiao has not made a career of it, Nor did he decide that he would wait until there were probs in the Barrera personal life before he decided to make the fight
