After watching this, I have no doubt Haye gets smoked early
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After watching this, I have no doubt Haye gets smoked early
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
Agreed.I'm believing that those KO's he took early are sitting firm in the back of his mind.He really does fight from the backseat for the most part.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
Yeah, but to be fair to Wlad he won and a win is a win, so credit to him. At least it didn't go the distance. Good thing Vitali andWlad don't fight, their parents would be one son less.
I think Everyone seems to be being harsh on Wlad. That is one of the best performances I have seen Wlad ever put in. He was IMO at his best ever then.
I wasnt nearly as impressed with Wlad as the commentators. The guy has no punch variety, to instinct to finish his opponent. He was at a huge advantage in size and power and was easily winning, yet he didnt take one chance. I picked Chagaev, but after the first round it was clear to me that Wlad could ko this guy in a couple rounds and he didnt. If he opened up just once with more than a one-two, he would have kod him.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
You really believe that? I'm not saying I think Haye will win but he'll sur as hell give Wlad a hole helleva' lot more problems than this lump just did. Faster, smarter, and won't sit in front of Wlad with a big bullseye begging Wlad to punch him. You're not using your own product again are you?;D
Say what you want about Haye and his fat mouth.....I dont think that fight goes over 4 rounds,either way.I think Haye might find him OR he'll get pole axed via a right hand in the process.....but he will try to KO Wlad.
Wlad fought a great fight.I just think he's a little too comfortable-content.
You seriously think Haye can take those right hands Chagaev took? Come on now. When did you develop a drug habit?Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
You really believe that? I'm not saying I think Haye will win but he'll sur as hell give Wlad a hole helleva' lot more problems than this lump just did. Faster, smarter, and won't sit in front of Wlad with a big bullseye begging Wlad to punch him. You're not using your own product again are you?;D
After watching that borefest i still think Haye is fast enough to beat this guy by evading the left and smashing the overhand right.
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Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYou seriously think Haye can take those right hands Chagaev took? Come on now. When did you develop a drug habit?Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
You really believe that? I'm not saying I think Haye will win but he'll sur as hell give Wlad a hole helleva' lot more problems than this lump just did. Faster, smarter, and won't sit in front of Wlad with a big bullseye begging Wlad to punch him. You're not using your own product again are you?;D
Hey motherf#cker I just started tweaking it last week so :fyou:
And no I didn't say Haye could take right hands like Chagaev did; but I damn sure bet he won't sit in front of Wlad all night and willingly eat them. We'll probably never know though:p
Good thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.Quote:
Originally Posted by piye
David Haye Would Beat Wlad Easy Too Quick Too Much Power .
That Was One Boring Fight
He wouldn't have that comfort with Haye though. Haye is way faster, way more skillfull and hits a lot harder than Chagaev. In fact the only thing I think he has on Haye is chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Wlad-Haye WILL be a different fight!
David Haye Is The Best Heavyweight Out There
Haye would be most likely running for his life instead of just sitting there. Won't matter. If Mormeck can catch him, Wlad can tooQuote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYou seriously think Haye can take those right hands Chagaev took? Come on now. When did you develop a drug habit?Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
Hey motherf#cker I just started tweaking it last week so :fyou:
And no I didn't say Haye could take right hands like Chagaev did; but I damn sure bet he won't sit in front of Wlad all night and willingly eat them. We'll probably never know though:p
And mail me some samples
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Originally Posted by Colin2009
Colin, meet Violent Demise.
Violent Demise, meet Colin.
A love affair if ever. Where's Lyle btw?;D
I think the objective that most fighters try to follow is not to take them in the first place. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYou seriously think Haye can take those right hands Chagaev took? Come on now. When did you develop a drug habit?Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
You really believe that? I'm not saying I think Haye will win but he'll sur as hell give Wlad a hole helleva' lot more problems than this lump just did. Faster, smarter, and won't sit in front of Wlad with a big bullseye begging Wlad to punch him. You're not using your own product again are you?;D
I Think Haye Is Alot Quicker And Has A Bigger Punch By Far
Probably opening his second packet of tissues.:-X;)Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by Colin2009
Colin, meet Violent Demise.
Violent Demise, meet Colin.
A love affair if ever. Where's Lyle btw?;D
You know what? It was indeed a boring fight but damn Vlad is becoming one tough s.o.b to beat. So far he is getting rid of the trash in the heavyweights. I'm sure when Haye gets in there then we will see some more fireworks but until then everyone will lose the same way including Arreola, Chambers and whomever else decides to step in there with him. As limited as he is no one has been able to figure him out lately. Finally an undisputed champion.
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Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHaye would be most likely running for his life instead of just sitting there. Won't matter. If Mormeck can catch him, Wlad can tooQuote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Hey motherf#cker I just started tweaking it last week so :fyou:
And no I didn't say Haye could take right hands like Chagaev did; but I damn sure bet he won't sit in front of Wlad all night and willingly eat them. We'll probably never know though:p
And mail me some samples
Yeah, actually it could be a borefest of the highest grade.
LOL. Based on what?Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuHe wouldn't have that comfort with Haye though. Haye is way faster, way more skillfull and hits a lot harder than Chagaev. In fact the only thing I think he has on Haye is chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Wlad-Haye WILL be a different fight!
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Originally Posted by AdamGBProbably opening his second packet of tissues.:-X;)Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONQuote:
Originally Posted by Colin2009
Colin, meet Violent Demise.
Violent Demise, meet Colin.
A love affair if ever. Where's Lyle btw?;D
Ouch....
But they do anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBI think the objective that most fighters try to follow is not to take them in the first place. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYou seriously think Haye can take those right hands Chagaev took? Come on now. When did you develop a drug habit?Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
what hand does he jab with? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseGood thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.Quote:
Originally Posted by piye
Wlad hardly throws a left ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseGood thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.Quote:
Originally Posted by piye
I think you're confused VD, Piye is saying that Haye could have some sucsess if he were to slip to the outside of Wlad's left hand and throw an overhand right at Wlad.
Did you misread his post or are you honestly telling us that Wlad doesn't throw his left hand much?
Wlad Is Not A Great Champion , Really Boring Fighter David Haye Would Be Too Smart Too Quick Too Powerfull , Vitali Is Totally In A Diffrent Class To Wlad , Lennox Lewis Could Return If He Wanted To And Still Be The King
I still lean towards Wlad if/when it comes off but Haye is much faster and I think he believes that he can KO Wlad with ease....and he'll get smoked trying or actually manage to do it.Wlad has a pattern going in which he dictates the range and tempo...almost a comfort zone.Haye will not wait to play along but roll the diceQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuHe wouldn't have that comfort with Haye though. Haye is way faster, way more skillfull and hits a lot harder than Chagaev. In fact the only thing I think he has on Haye is chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Wlad-Haye WILL be a different fight!
In fairness though I dont see Haye being able to soak up what Chagaev did.Think it'll be short and brutal :shinner:
Haye Is Alot Faster He Wouldnt Need To Chase Wlad Around , Haye Is More Skillfull His Punch Is Alot Bigger I Believe Haye Can Ko Wlad Easily .
Haye Would Have Got Rid Of Chageav Alot Quicker Than Wlad Did
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Originally Posted by piyewhat hand does he jab with? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseGood thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.Quote:
Originally Posted by piye
I don't consider his jab a left hand. He uses it as a range finder most of the time. When he does it's impossible to counterQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBWlad hardly throws a left ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseGood thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.Quote:
Originally Posted by piye
I think you're confused VD, Piye is saying that Haye could have some sucsess if he were to slip to the outside of Wlad's left hand and throw an overhand right at Wlad.
Did you misread his post or are you honestly telling us that Wlad doesn't throw his left hand much?
Lennox Lewis Would Still Be King
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Originally Posted by Colin2009
Calm down;D
SADDO!!!!!!!!!!
I think we are going to need a Haye section.
I'm sure this is dependent on how fast you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseQuote:
Originally Posted by piyewhat hand does he jab with? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I don't consider his jab a left hand. He uses it as a range finder most of the time. When he does it's impossible to counterQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBWlad hardly throws a left ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think you're confused VD, Piye is saying that Haye could have some sucsess if he were to slip to the outside of Wlad's left hand and throw an overhand right at Wlad.
Did you misread his post or are you honestly telling us that Wlad doesn't throw his left hand much?
What ever floats your boat...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseQuote:
Originally Posted by piyewhat hand does he jab with? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I don't consider his jab a left hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBWlad hardly throws a left ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think you're confused VD, Piye is saying that Haye could have some sucsess if he were to slip to the outside of Wlad's left hand and throw an overhand right at Wlad.
Did you misread his post or are you honestly telling us that Wlad doesn't throw his left hand much?
lennox Lewis Would Still Be King
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You seen it get counter yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by piyeI'm sure this is dependent on how fast you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseQuote:
Originally Posted by piye
I don't consider his jab a left hand. He uses it as a range finder most of the time. When he does it's impossible to counterQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by Violent DemiseQuote:
Originally Posted by piyewhat hand does he jab with? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I don't consider his jab a left hand. He uses it as a range finder most of the time. When he does it's impossible to counterQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBWlad hardly throws a left ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think you're confused VD, Piye is saying that Haye could have some sucsess if he were to slip to the outside of Wlad's left hand and throw an overhand right at Wlad.
Did you misread his post or are you honestly telling us that Wlad doesn't throw his left hand much?
Yeah when he uses a full jab it is fast and powerful, tough to counter. But he paws with it way too much and it could catch up to him; when and if it happens is anybody's guess.
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Originally Posted by Colin2009
You can't.
Are you telling me you consider his left hand (power punch) to be the same as his left jab?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBWhat ever floats your boat...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseQuote:
Originally Posted by piye
I don't consider his jab a left hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
All threads regarding centralized and singularly jewel-hugging can only be started over on the Manny Pac forum.Ask for Xanadu ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Colin2009