Hatton to fight in manchester against Forbes

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Originally Posted by themacmagician

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Originally Posted by littlebif

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The choice of opponent really dissapoints me, seriously. What has it come to. Thought it was poor when DLH signed to fight forbes. Rubbish.

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What did you expect ? He is coming back from a horrible ko,no way was he going to go in with a big puncher.

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I totally don't expect a big puncher, just something will a tad more excitement. Forbes, Steve Forbes, please. I'm not a genius matchmaker by any means but i certainly wouldn't buy into that one. Can't help but think that DLH has a play in this one.

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Oscars probally still wearing that Hatton mask from the Manny fight lol.He definatly has a major hand in this one and they have brought in Forbes as a relief pitcher.....or catcher for the last few fights now.I thought he got the Oscar match to amend the "loss" that D. Hopkins was wrongfully awarded over Forbes but he does not go into a fight to just make a guy look good.They often dont.

this reminds me alot of Juan Diaz fighting a light hitter Malignaggi. Good move a safe move IMO.

Not only do I think Ricky could lose this fight; I think he will. That man is damaged goods now; and I don't care if Forbes isn't a Pac, he's better than a Lazcano and is fast, crafty and durable.

I don't see Ricky getting knocked out; just taking more punches than he probably should at this point. Is there no one he feels confident enough at 140 with that he needs to go to 147 to fight? Is Ricky taking a light puncher like Forbes on at 147 becaue he thinks the extra weight will help him absorb more? I thought Ricky would want to at least go out at 140 where he was "king" for so long.

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Originally Posted by littlebif

What did you expect ? He is coming back from a horrible ko,no way was he going to go in with a big puncher.

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I totally don't expect a big puncher, just something will a tad more excitement. Forbes, Steve Forbes, please. I'm not a genius matchmaker by any means but i certainly wouldn't buy into that one. Can't help but think that DLH has a play in this one.

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Oscars probally still wearing that Hatton mask from the Manny fight lol.He definatly has a major hand in this one and they have brought in Forbes as a relief pitcher.....or catcher for the last few fights now.I thought he got the Oscar match to amend the "loss" that D. Hopkins was wrongfully awarded over Forbes but he does not go into a fight to just make a guy look good.They often dont.

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After that mauling he took, Ricky is probably wearing one of those masks just to be recognized:p

Type of fight I expected. It'll be competitive either way so I certainly don't see it as a cynical chioce, just a realistic one. Idealy Witter to beat Alexander and set up the only remotely winnable fight for Ricky (I'd have Junior favbourite) that actually has some meaning to it.

So what is the point of this fight?

Is it because Ricky cannot make 140 comfortably anymore, or that he is taking on a more than beatable opponent at 147 to see if he can cut it!

One thing that is for sure...he looks on the downslide and he really should have considered retirement much more than he obviously has!!

Lets face it...if he thinks he can move up and then take on the Likes of Mosley,Cotto or Margacheato after a Forbes win and do well in the division he is deluded!

A fight against the likes of Bradley or Witter would have made more sense to me especially if Junior takes the WBC belt he is fighting for...so that takes me back to the start of my post..is he weight drained fighting at 140 and he's holding on!

Hatton knows that a fight at 147 with the big boys is out of the question they are just to big for him.

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Originally Posted by mofo2

So what is the point of this fight?

Is it because Ricky cannot make 140 comfortably anymore, or that he is taking on a more than beatable opponent at 147 to see if he can cut it!

One thing that is for sure...he looks on the downslide and he really should have considered retirement much more than he obviously has!!

Lets face it...if he thinks he can move up and then take on the Likes of Mosley,Cotto or Margacheato after a Forbes win and do well in the division he is deluded!

A fight against the likes of Bradley or Witter would have made more sense to me especially if Junior takes the WBC belt he is fighting for...so that takes me back to the start of my post..is he weight drained fighting at 140 and he's holding on!

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That would be an understatement. He'd get hurt less standing in front of a train than fighting those guys. Margarita' would make him look like some pizza dough with tomato sauce thrown all over it;D

I know what will be said; but I'd still like to see him fight Juan Diaz or Katsidis. All he's going to do now by fighting{and possibly losing}to guys like Forbes is diminish his career even more, win or lose.

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Originally Posted by LEGION

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Originally Posted by mofo2

So what is the point of this fight?

Is it because Ricky cannot make 140 comfortably anymore, or that he is taking on a more than beatable opponent at 147 to see if he can cut it!

One thing that is for sure...he looks on the downslide and he really should have considered retirement much more than he obviously has!!

Lets face it...if he thinks he can move up and then take on the Likes of Mosley,Cotto or Margacheato after a Forbes win and do well in the division he is deluded!

A fight against the likes of Bradley or Witter would have made more sense to me especially if Junior takes the WBC belt he is fighting for...so that takes me back to the start of my post..is he weight drained fighting at 140 and he's holding on!

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That would be an understatement. He'd get hurt less standing in front of a train than fighting those guys. Margarita' would make him look like some pizza dough with tomato sauce thrown all over it;D

I know what will be said; but I'd still like to see him fight Juan Diaz or Katsidis. All he's going to do now by fighting{and possibly losing}to guys like Forbes is diminish his career even more, win or lose.

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I agree totally..But I cant't see him having the stomach for a war with either Diaz or Kastidis either...

Its a bad situation for him I suppose as his two defeats have been against the Best quality figters around for some years and he probably feels he can still turn his career around...Its just time to Bow out gracefully for me and look back on a good career and think well done, instead of as you say taking fights that diminish his career!

Tricky for Ricky. He's picked someone who he thinks he'll be able to walk through their punches but Forbes did a number on Oscar when he tried to mix it in their fight and Oscar had to settle for outboxing him. Ricky won't be able to outbox him and he'll have to risk getting sparked all through the fight to land enough to get him the decision. I don't think even not having to make 140 will help him too much here. Going for Forbes tells me he Ricky doesn't believe he could beat Khan or anybody decent at 140, this definitely looks like a farewell fight. I'm going for Forbes in a surprise upset.

My take on Hatton - he isn't washed up, and he could fight on and beat most anybody for a couple more years.

He just got beat by a couple guys for two reasons. One of those reasons is that they have speed and grace. Another is that they have timing and balance. Against Manny he just fought stupid. It was a short fight and shouldn't have damaged him much more than many of his other longer battles.

In short - Hatton is a particular kind of fighter who can beat a lot of other fighters. But he's not and never has been a great fighter. He lost because he was outclassed or fought stupid - not because he is washed up.

Unless you want to argue that he was always washed up.

Yes, I know that he also eats and lives stupid between fights, and that it catches up with you. But I'm just saying I don't think these are the kinds of things that have happened to make him lose to Floyd and Manny. He could never have beaten Floyd. And that's why he lost.

I like Ricky. He'd be a fine bloke to lift a pint with. But I'd rather watch Bernard Hopkins or Floyd Mayweather in the ring.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Tricky for Ricky. He's picked someone who he thinks he'll be able to walk through their punches but Forbes did a number on Oscar when he tried to mix it in their fight and Oscar had to settle for outboxing him. Ricky won't be able to outbox him and he'll have to risk getting sparked all through the fight to land enough to get him the decision. I don't think even not having to make 140 will help him too much here. Going for Forbes tells me he Ricky doesn't believe he could beat Khan or anybody decent at 140, this definitely looks like a farewell fight. I'm going for Forbes in a surprise upset.

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You've got to be kidding. I don't care how shot Hatton is, there is no way he gets stopped by Steve Forbes. The guy has 7 stoppages in 34 fights, all of which came against inferior competition. Hatton might get outboxed, which I doubt, but he won't get stopped.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Tricky for Ricky. He's picked someone who he thinks he'll be able to walk through their punches but Forbes did a number on Oscar when he tried to mix it in their fight and Oscar had to settle for outboxing him. Ricky won't be able to outbox him and he'll have to risk getting sparked all through the fight to land enough to get him the decision. I don't think even not having to make 140 will help him too much here. Going for Forbes tells me he Ricky doesn't believe he could beat Khan or anybody decent at 140, this definitely looks like a farewell fight. I'm going for Forbes in a surprise upset.

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You've got to be kidding. I don't care how shot Hatton is, there is no way he gets stopped by Steve Forbes. The guy has 7 stoppages in 34 fights, all of which came against inferior competition. Hatton might get outboxed, which I doubt, but he won't get stopped.

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I'm going on how Oscar did with Forbes then how oscar did with Manny versus how Hatton did against him. I think Forbes has a good chance of stopping Hatton.

Forbes is a tough little opponent, but I'm not sure about Hatton's punch resistance anymore. If he was in his prime he would easily win, but we all saw what happened against Lazcano. He was stunned twice against him. Hatton isn't the same and against Pacquiao he was a shell of himself while Pacquiao skills continue to grow.

Also, forgot to add, why at 147 Hatton has never really looked great at 147. He has always seemed to diminsh down the stretch which is very un-Hatton like. Agaginst Mayweather and Collazo he started off strong, but at the end he has been winded and tired.

Yep I was also thinking why is Hatton fighting at 147 when he hasn't looked that great at that division.

IMO I believe he can still beat many of the alphabet champions at 140. Let's say if he were to fight Kotelnik I would still favor Hatton.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Yep I was also thinking why is Hatton fighting at 147 when he hasn't looked that great at that division.

IMO I believe he can still beat many of the alphabet champions at 140. Let's say if he were to fight Kotelnik I would still favor Hatton.

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Hasn't looked good at 147 is the understatement of the night. Did you see the Collazo fight?

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Originally Posted by littlebif

Why is it at 147lb he seemed to be making the weight ok at 140.

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Hatton likes 147 better. It's either on him since he doesn't struggle to make. The only reason he said he wasn't comfortable at 147 was cuz he needed an excuse for getting his ass kicked against Collazo and Mayweather. But in reality he loves the weight

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Originally Posted by skel1983

On another note what has happened to the Hatton site??

Just tried getting on for some more info and redirected to another site? Anyone else get this?

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The server which hosted the sites was highjacked and was taken down along with Carl Froch site and couple of others i thought it would have been back up by now that was like 4 or 5 weeks ago.

Hatton: Forbes sounds interesting. Is it a one off then? Or is Hatton just testing the waters for further fights? And most curiously why at 147? Is this an admission that 140 really was too much for him in the end and it was Mayweather and Collazo that pushed him back down?

Said all along hatton would go down 2 routes and if this is indeed true he`s taken the wrong one.


This is simply hattons way of bowing out with a win in his hometown against a very ordinary opponent who he`ll have no trouble seeing off as long as he trains properly.

He should of gone down the comeback route at 30 he is still capable of several world title fights and has the ability to end his career on top of the division with a record of 48,49-2 which would stamp his legacy as one of the all time british greats.

• november comeback against a holt/torres in new york or somewhere like that
• Then a bid to claim the WBO against bradley which again would be stateside which hatton should be able to win with the fight happening sometime in may 2010
• massive vegas showdown against a marquez/cotto/berto with the chance to end his career on top of the sport.
• If beaten one last final showdown in late 2010 against amir khan back in the uk

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Originally Posted by CFH

Did people b1tch this much when that Lazcano fight was announced? Because Forbes is a step above him IMO.

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some did :cool: and Forbes IS better than people are giving him credit for.

I think Forbes is the right opponent for Hatton right now. He's not a push over, has some skills and should Hatton win will be a good confidence builder.

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Originally Posted by belakbox

I think Forbes is the right opponent for Hatton right now. He's not a push over, has some skills and should Hatton win will be a good confidence builder.

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Agree on the whole comeback thing

But should a guy who admittedly only has 2-3 fights left in him waste one of those fights fighting someone who everybody would expect him to roll over??

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Tricky for Ricky. He's picked someone who he thinks he'll be able to walk through their punches but Forbes did a number on Oscar when he tried to mix it in their fight and Oscar had to settle for outboxing him. Ricky won't be able to outbox him and he'll have to risk getting sparked all through the fight to land enough to get him the decision. I don't think even not having to make 140 will help him too much here. Going for Forbes tells me he Ricky doesn't believe he could beat Khan or anybody decent at 140, this definitely looks like a farewell fight. I'm going for Forbes in a surprise upset.

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You've got to be kidding. I don't care how shot Hatton is, there is no way he gets stopped by Steve Forbes. The guy has 7 stoppages in 34 fights, all of which came against inferior competition. Hatton might get outboxed, which I doubt, but he won't get stopped.

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I'm going on how Oscar did with Forbes then how oscar did with Manny versus how Hatton did against him. I think Forbes has a good chance of stopping Hatton.

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Me too. Forbes will make Hatton eat a fair few combinations and that is something Hatton has never been able to deal with...see Collazo, Mayweather, Pacman.

Plenty said Mayweather didn't have enough power to Ko him or Pacquiao didn't but look what happened. Collazo nearly had him out and he is considered a light puncher.

Don't be surprised if Hatton get's stopped or hurt at some point in the fight.

This fight does'nt really float my boat but it could do if it draws near!I'd like to see Hatton have a slug fest with Witter instead.Is he fighting Forbes because he is American and that would draw the big t.v boardcastings and make Hatton a few more £££s towards his retirement??

No offence to you great Americans,but fuck having to keep everyone happy Hatton and bloody give us brits that fight with Witter and set the record straight once and for all.There's bad blood in between Hatton vs Witter over the last 6-7 years and their've been slagging each other off something rotten.It would be a awesome fight over here and if Hatton does lose if their did get it on he would still get my respect,but fighting Forbes.........i dont see that much interest in it really:-\nevertheless i'd like to see Hatton fight before he retires!

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This fight does'nt really float my boat but it could do if it draws near!I'd like to see Hatton have a slug fest with Witter instead.Is he fighting Forbes because he is American and that would draw the big t.v boardcastings and make Hatton a few more £££s towards his retirement??

No offence to you great Americans,but fuck having to keep everyone happy Hatton and bloody give us brits that fight with Witter ans set the record straight once and for all.There's bad blood in between Hatton vs Witter over the last 6-7 years and their've been slagging each other off something rotten.It would be a awesome fight over here and if Hatton does lose if their did get it on he would still get my respect,but fighting Forbes.........i dont see that much interest in it really:-\nevertheless i'd like to see Hatton fight before he retires!

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No one in America gives a flying fuck about Forbes and I doubt the networks do either. Hatton wants nothing to do with Witter, that's been made very clear. Before, I'm sure he thought, and probably still thinks, he could beat him but didn't want to risk it (high-risk/low reward fight), now Witter would have a very good chance of beating Hatton. The fight, unfortunately, will never happen.

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Said all along hatton would go down 2 routes and if this is indeed true he`s taken the wrong one.


This is simply hattons way of bowing out with a win in his hometown against a very ordinary opponent who he`ll have no trouble seeing off as long as he trains properly.

He should of gone down the comeback route at 30 he is still capable of several world title fights and has the ability to end his career on top of the division with a record of 48,49-2 which would stamp his legacy as one of the all time british greats.

• november comeback against a holt/torres in new york or somewhere like that
• Then a bid to claim the WBO against bradley which again would be stateside which hatton should be able to win with the fight happening sometime in may 2010
• massive vegas showdown against a marquez/cotto/berto with the chance to end his career on top of the sport.
• If beaten one last final showdown in late 2010 against amir khan back in the uk

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I agree, I think Hatton still has a big show or two left in him.

Why would it be at 147 ?

Both guys can make 140.....i think. :-\

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

Why would it be at 147 ?

Both guys can make 140.....i think. :-\

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Hatton can't make 140 very well these days IMO

I thought if Hatton fought Katsidis it could look like Katsidis-Earl. I think people are overestimating what he has left. If he'd turned up at the Wild Card gym in disguise a couple of months before the Manny fight and got himself a job as a Hatton impersonator to spar with Manny he would have been kicked out of the gym after a couple of rounds for being a pale imitation of Hatton. He's not going to fight any differently to the way he did against Manny for the rest of his career.

He's going to have to walk through other fighters to get to them and take a lot of punches, and he can't take punches anymore. I don't think Forbes will spark him but he can definitely stop him in the late rounds. Not having to make 140 will help but all those years of boozing, weight gain, making weight and the accumulation of punches taken over the years mean Hatton isn't anything like the fighter he was.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I thought if Hatton fought Katsidis it could look like Katsidis-Earl. I think people are overestimating what he has left. If he'd turned up at the Wild Card gym in disguise a couple of months before the Manny fight and got himself a job as a Hatton impersonator to spar with Manny he would have been kicked out of the gym after a couple of rounds for being a pale imitation of Hatton. He's not going to fight any differently to the way he did against Manny for the rest of his career.

He's going to have to walk through other fighters to get to them and take a lot of punches, and he can't take punches anymore. I don't think Forbes will spark him but he can definitely stop him in the late rounds. Not having to make 140 will help but all those years of boozing, weight gain, making weight and the accumulation of punches taken over the years mean Hatton isn't anything like the fighter he was.

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Agreed on all points.

Hatton will win but will not look good in the process. Forbes has a granite jaw and is a savvy fighter. Ricky should retire with this one and on a high note.

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

Why would it be at 147 ?

Both guys can make 140.....i think. :-\

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Hatton can't make 140 very well these days IMO

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I agree, I think his body just can't do it anymore. The older you get, the harder it gets to lose the weight, and lets face it, Hatton put his body through hell with how often he ballooned up in between fights.

And IMO, he did not look healthy at all, at the Pac weigh-in, he looked worse than usual.

And Forbes makes sense IMO. Hatton just got brutally KTFO, he's nearing, or is at the end of his career, he's made his money, so why would he put himself in with a big puncher. I think he wants a fight that he should be able to win, and do it in his hometown for his fans.

He has sparred with Forbes, so he knows what to expect with him, and he knows that it's highly unlikely that Forbes could knock him out. But, Forbes does have a chance at beating him IMO.

I don't necessarily like the fight, but I understand it.

Makes sense to me...

Ricky and Steve get on very well, they spent a lot of time together in Manchester before Castillo.

so they pitch a fight together, stge it in Manchester, huge crowd, huge profit, close their careers.

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Originally Posted by miles

Hatton: Forbes sounds interesting. Is it a one off then? Or is Hatton just testing the waters for further fights? And most curiously why at 147? Is this an admission that 140 really was too much for him in the end and it was Mayweather and Collazo that pushed him back down?

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No he's fighting him 3 times. Then if he wins he has to fight Forbes' Dad.

Very similar to the Klitschko - Haye contract.

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by miles

Hatton: Forbes sounds interesting. Is it a one off then? Or is Hatton just testing the waters for further fights? And most curiously why at 147? Is this an admission that 140 really was too much for him in the end and it was Mayweather and Collazo that pushed him back down?

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No he's fighting him 3 times. Then if he wins he has to fight Forbes' Dad.

Very similar to the Klitschko - Haye contract.

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lol

I may now just make my own custom made design of ricky holding up forbes snr`s corpsless head ;D;D;D

It was obvious he would fight again, the question was: where, when and against who. Forbes makes a lot of sense and I would be very surprised that he would retire right after that fight as well, count one or two more at least.

Hatton's got plenty more to give. I second that this is a safe course for him, a safe fight.

This bout is where he can be aggressive, fight his own fight, with little or even no danger of seeing the canvas.

Psycho adjuster this fight... He is only thirty years young with only two losses way outside of a physical beating. He has to clear his head a good 90 days first, and then he should be good to go.

Whatever happened to the talk about Freddie Roach taking Hatton under his wings for a future fight , if ever there will be one? I saw a vid on youtube, I think. If that happens, that'll surely be the trick, that gets him back on track!

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by miles

Hatton: Forbes sounds interesting. Is it a one off then? Or is Hatton just testing the waters for further fights? And most curiously why at 147? Is this an admission that 140 really was too much for him in the end and it was Mayweather and Collazo that pushed him back down?

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No he's fighting him 3 times. Then if he wins he has to fight Forbes' Dad.

Very similar to the Klitschko - Haye contract.

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lol

I may now just make my own custom made design of ricky holding up forbes snr`s corpsless head ;D;D;D

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Hattonthehammer = Britains XaduBoxer

Hatton's not done yet. I think a step up in weight will lower his KO ratio, but restore his confidence. Forbes is a great opponent to see what he has left at this juncture. He may very well be shot, but I doubt it.
He still has a punch. He just can't get outta the way of a lot of the ones coming in. If his hearts not in it we will surely find out, as Forbes bring consistent pressure through the round in a fight. An under-trained-Pub-Happy hatton will be quickly identified.