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09-27-2009, 04:03 AM
Galaxy

Should Guillermo Jones remain rated?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...iserweight.jpg

Guillermo Jones (currently #3 at 200) hasn’t fought since beating Firat Arslan on Sep 27th ’08. Should he remain ranked or be removed to the pool?
09-27-2009, 04:07 AM
Galaxy

Should Firat Arslan remain rated?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...iserweight.jpg

Firat Arslan (currently #7 at 200) hasn’t fought since losing to Guillermo Jones on Sep 27th ’08. Should he remain ranked or be removed to the pool?
09-27-2009, 04:17 AM
Galaxy

How far should Cris Arreola drop?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...eavyweight.jpg

How far should Cris Arreola (currently #9) drop after losing to #1 ranked Vitali Klitschko?

Remain 9th?

Drop to the pool?
09-27-2009, 08:10 AM
JazMerkin

Re: Should Guillermo Jones remain rated?

He should remain rated as he's got a fight with Brudov next month
09-27-2009, 04:02 PM
DaxxKahn

Re: How far should Cris Arreola drop?

I said remain 9th he was beaten by one half of the divisions best and fared no worse then anyone else has so stay where he is, this is really an 8 man ranking for the HWTS because until the Klitschkos or at least one retires no one is taking either of their top spots soon
09-27-2009, 04:05 PM
DaxxKahn

Re: Should Firat Arslan remain rated?

I made a mistake and put he remained ranked meant to say remove him can any of you guys fix it please
09-27-2009, 04:07 PM
DaxxKahn

Re: Should Guillermo Jones remain rated?

He has a bout coming up and he has a title hard to remove him, I vote stay and lets re-evaluate him after his next fight
09-28-2009, 04:29 AM
Galaxy

Re: Should Guillermo Jones remain rated?

I change my vote to he remains, didn't realize he had a fight signed
09-28-2009, 04:40 AM
Galaxy

Re: How far should Cris Arreola drop?

Keep him 9th, he was beaten up but thats not to say he won't do better against the other guys not named Klitschko
09-28-2009, 04:43 AM
Galaxy

Re: Should Firat Arslan remain rated?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I made a mistake and put he remained ranked meant to say remove him can any of you guys fix it please

No worries, we'll count it as a removal vote
09-28-2009, 11:36 AM
DaxxKahn

Re: Should Firat Arslan remain rated?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I made a mistake and put he remained ranked meant to say remove him can any of you guys fix it please

No worries, we'll count it as a removal vote

Thanks
09-28-2009, 06:18 PM
TigerFan

Re: How far should Cris Arreola drop?

Keep him at 9.
09-28-2009, 06:19 PM
TigerFan

Re: Should Firat Arslan remain rated?

Put him in the pool.
09-28-2009, 06:22 PM
TigerFan

Re: Should Guillermo Jones remain rated?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazMerkin

He should remain rated as he's got a fight with Brudov next month

I agree with JazMerkin.
10-01-2009, 11:09 PM
Galaxy

Re: Should Guillermo Jones remain rated?

Guillermo Jones remains rated by a vote of 7 - 0
10-01-2009, 11:11 PM
Galaxy

Re: Should Firat Arslan remain rated?

Firat Arslan is removed to the pool by a vote of 6 - 0
10-01-2009, 11:12 PM
Galaxy

Re: How far should Cris Arreola drop?

Cris Arreola remain #9 by a vote of 8 - 0
10-01-2009, 11:14 PM
Kev

Re: How far should Cris Arreola drop?

I'd say at least 50 lbs.
10-02-2009, 05:22 PM
killersheep

Killersheep's manager vote of the month Sam Peter again

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...eavyweight.jpg

I vote we knockdown Peter another rank this would put Haye ahead of him and seems a bit temporary since win or lose against Valuev this vote would be nullified. Still here it is.
10-02-2009, 05:56 PM
Galaxy

Re: Killersheep's manager vote of the month Sam Peter again

Peters in free-fall!!!
10-04-2009, 11:48 PM
Spicoli

Re: Killersheep's manager vote of the month Sam Peter again

Yes.Just on the simple fact Arreola fough his heart out vs Vitali,took his beating and actually tried to win....Peter gave it up with a whimper.He does not belong ahead of Arreola....or Haye for that matter
10-06-2009, 09:09 PM
killersheep

Re: Killersheep's manager vote of the month Sam Peter again

Peter moves down a spot to 8th and Haye moves up to 7th by a vote of 5-1
10-09-2009, 01:03 PM
killersheep

Odlanier Solis vs. Monte Barrett pool worthy?

Is Odlanier Solis vs. late fill-in Monte Barrett a pool-worthy fight?

With Fres backing out a new vote for the new set-up is in order.
10-09-2009, 04:03 PM
Kev

Re: Odlanier Solis vs. Monte Barrett pool worthy?

By pool i guess you mean that the winner becomes a contender in line for a title shot?

If so, yes and no.

The trouble is there are no worthy challengers out there so presuming Solis beats Barrett he will be as worthy as anyone to have a title shot, as everybody else has already tried and failed abysmally. So in that sense yes.

However, clearly he is not ready for a world title shot in terms of realistically beating either Klitschko. Ideally he should continue to gain experience over the next couple years before thinking about going after either of them.

However the complete lack of talent and competition in the heavyweight division right now will likely necessitate the fact that he will get thrust forward sooner than he should, before he is ready, as there is literally nobody else for these guys to fight.

The old guard, the veterans, and those in the top 10 have all been smashed to the point where nobody wants to see them try again, and therefore the champs have to pick from the up and comers as nobody else is around.

It's a sad state of affairs really.
10-09-2009, 04:14 PM
killersheep

Re: Odlanier Solis vs. Monte Barrett pool worthy?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilbo

By pool i guess you mean that the winner becomes a contender in line for a title shot?

If so, yes and no.

The trouble is there are no worthy challengers out there so presuming Solis beats Barrett he will be as worthy as anyone to have a title shot, as everybody else has already tried and failed abysmally. So in that sense yes.

However, clearly he is not ready for a world title shot in terms of realistically beating either Klitschko. Ideally he should continue to gain experience over the next couple years before thinking about going after either of them.

However the complete lack of talent and competition in the heavyweight division right now will likely necessitate the fact that he will get thrust forward sooner than he should, before he is ready, as there is literally nobody else for these guys to fight.

The old guard, the veterans, and those in the top 10 have all been smashed to the point where nobody wants to see them try again, and therefore the champs have to pick from the up and comers as nobody else is around.

It's a sad state of affairs really.

No that's not what it means.
10-09-2009, 04:43 PM
Kev

Re: Odlanier Solis vs. Monte Barrett pool worthy?

lol :p
10-09-2009, 05:02 PM
JonnyFolds

Re: Odlanier Solis vs. Monte Barrett pool worthy?

Then what is a pool worthy fight?
10-09-2009, 05:13 PM
killersheep

Re: Odlanier Solis vs. Monte Barrett pool worthy?

Members of the pool get priority to fill vacancies in our rankings. If you read the post about how we do our rankings, it does a much better job of explaining than I did here. Think of pool members as place holder spots when a vacancy does come up the members of the pool are evaluated and whichever has either had the best competition they may be moved to fill that spot OR if a member of the pool has a fight which the committee deems worthy the fight becomes an eliminator and the winner claims the spot. Typically people moving up from the pool can only fill vacant spots with how our rankings work is usually 10th place (sometimes 9th on occasion)
10-09-2009, 07:49 PM
Kev

Re: Odlanier Solis vs. Monte Barrett pool worthy?

Quote:

Originally Posted by killersheep

Members of the pool get priority to fill vacancies in our rankings. If you read the post about how we do our rankings, it does a much better job of explaining than I did here. Think of pool members as place holder spots when a vacancy does come up the members of the pool are evaluated and whichever has either had the best competition they may be moved to fill that spot OR if a member of the pool has a fight which the committee deems worthy the fight becomes an eliminator and the winner claims the spot. Typically people moving up from the pool can only fill vacant spots with how our rankings work is usually 10th place (sometimes 9th on occasion)

wtf we have special selection criteria for Saddo rankings now? This forum hasn't seen such geekyness since the Clan Wars of 2008 :dunce::bucktooth:
10-09-2009, 08:58 PM
killersheep

Re: Odlanier Solis vs. Monte Barrett pool worthy?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Quote:

Originally Posted by killersheep

Members of the pool get priority to fill vacancies in our rankings. If you read the post about how we do our rankings, it does a much better job of explaining than I did here. Think of pool members as place holder spots when a vacancy does come up the members of the pool are evaluated and whichever has either had the best competition they may be moved to fill that spot OR if a member of the pool has a fight which the committee deems worthy the fight becomes an eliminator and the winner claims the spot. Typically people moving up from the pool can only fill vacant spots with how our rankings work is usually 10th place (sometimes 9th on occasion)

wtf we have special selection criteria for Saddo rankings now? This forum hasn't seen such geekyness since the Clan Wars of 2008 :dunce::bucktooth:

Well we can't all be unemployed chess players.
10-09-2009, 10:29 PM
Galaxy

Re: Odlanier Solis vs. Monte Barrett pool worthy?

I'll vote yes, but Solis' weight is concerning!
10-09-2009, 10:37 PM
killersheep

Re: Odlanier Solis vs. Monte Barrett pool worthy?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy

I'll vote yes, but Solis' weight is concerning!

Well Barrett has been used as justification to enter the rankings, so if he wins he deserves to enter the pool. We'll just leave him in the deep end though.
10-15-2009, 12:35 PM
JazMerkin

Should Licina-Hernandez be for vacant #10 at Cruiserweight?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...iserweight.jpg

Enad Licina faces Yoan Pablo Hernandez on the undercard of Abraham-Taylor this weekend.

Both have similar levels of experience.

Should this be for the vacant #10 spot?
10-15-2009, 09:58 PM
Galaxy

Re: Should Licina-Hernandez be for vacant #10 at Cruiserweight?

Yes
10-15-2009, 11:26 PM
Galaxy

Re: Odlanier Solis vs. Monte Barrett pool worthy?

Odlanier Solis enters the pool after defeating Monte Barrett by a vote of 3 - 0
10-18-2009, 07:46 AM
Galaxy

Should Enad Licina remain in the pool

Should Enad Licina remain in the pool at Cruiser after losing to Yoan Pablo Hernandez?
Enad Licina
10-22-2009, 09:35 PM
Galaxy

Re: Should Enad Licina remain in the pool

Enad Licina is removed from the pool by a vote of 2 - 0
10-25-2009, 06:21 AM
Galaxy

Who fills the #10 spot at Heavyweight?

Who should fill the vacant #10 spot at Heavyweight?
Denis Boystov
Denis Boytsov

Kevin Johnson
Kevin Johnson

Odlanier Solis
Odlanier Solis

Alexander Dimitrenko/ Luan Krasniqi winner 28th of November
Alexander Dimitrenko
Luan Krasniqi
10-26-2009, 04:53 AM
Galaxy

Re: Who fills the #10 spot at Heavyweight?

I think it should be filled but I'm undecided between Boytsov, Solis & Johnson. I'll put my vote in later
10-30-2009, 10:54 PM
Galaxy

Re: Who fills the #10 spot at Heavyweight?

The #10 spot remains vacant by a vote of 4 - 2 - 1

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