Re: IVAN CALDERON vs RODEL MAYOL
I think Calderon was winning this one convincingly enough, and the clash of styles makes it somewhat ugly to watch. So, I don't care too much about a rematch.The heads must have clashed about 10 times over several rounds. Mayol was only managing to land occasionally here and there and Calderon looked better than last time out.
No more rematches, time for some new meat. Though if Mayol can win a couple of fights and force Calderon into another fight a year or so down the line then why not. Calderon would have to start slowing down sometime.
But for the time being, I have had my fill of this pairing.
Re: IVAN CALDERON vs RODEL MAYOL
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come on dude Puerto Rico is no Texas
It's the same place where Calderon got his gift win against Cazares in there first fight. And it's the same place where there rematch was conveniently stopped as Cazares was coming on, despite Calderon's blood not being anywhere close into getting into his eyes.
Cazares/Calderon I was a close fight and I (who am never one to score a fight for the hometown guy just cause he's the hometown guy) had Calderon winning by 2 points, and in the rematch IMO Calderon was outboxing Cazares a lot easier than the first, and it wasn't any Robert Guerrero cut either
Calderon went down twice in the 8th round. Yet for some reason the Puerto Rican referee didn't call one of them. The 10-7 round would of won him the fight.
And your right that the cut was not like Guerrero's. It was on his forehead. The blood would not of got into his eyes. He could of fought on. Just like today
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I picked Mayol to win the first one. And was about to take him in the rematch. Than I noticed the fight is in Puerto Rico. It's in the bag for Calderon unless he gets stopped.
come on dude Puerto Rico is no Texas
It's the same place where Calderon got his gift win against Cazares in there first fight. And it's the same place where there rematch was conveniently stopped as Cazares was coming on, despite Calderon's blood not being anywhere close into getting into his eyes.
kinda like what happend tonight. calderons cut was on his forehead not anywhere near his eyes and calderon was playing the bull all night.
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Another rematch?
I don't mind a third fight. But I think Ivan don't want anymore Mayol.
What's better, watching Mayol again somehow headbutt a man 5 inches shorter than him to lose a decision or watch Calderon go up against more likely threat like Edgar Sosa or Brian Viloria?
Is Mayol b*tching like he did after the first fight again?
mayol headbutted calderon? are you serious?
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I am more interested in seeing Martinez than Calderon, to tell you the truth. Martinez is really, really exciting and a fight with Guerrero should be made if Martinez wins tonight.
Martinez might be more entertaining but Calderon is the better all around more skilled fighter, although i like Rocky, i think his chin will give out against Guerrero, he was wobbled pretty damn bad against Cook and Cook has nothing on Guerrero when it comes to anything lol
In my post I wasn't mentioning "skill," so I am not sure why you would bring that up. Martinez's vulnerability makes his fights exciting and although Calderon has better defensive skills, I was bored to death watching his fight last night. Good defense, little offense. At least Whitaker and Mayweather were/are more offensive minded than Iron Boy.
If you have seen MANY of Martinez's fights like I have, you will know that Rocky has never, ever been hurt when he has gone down (he didn't even go down against Cook!). In fact, I compare those knockdowns to most of Trinidad's in his career-the flash knockdown variety. Win or lose, I believe that whoever Martinez fights at 130, the fight will be exciting.
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I am more interested in seeing Martinez than Calderon, to tell you the truth. Martinez is really, really exciting and a fight with Guerrero should be made if Martinez wins tonight.
Martinez might be more entertaining but Calderon is the better all around more skilled fighter, although i like Rocky, i think his chin will give out against Guerrero, he was wobbled pretty damn bad against Cook and Cook has nothing on Guerrero when it comes to anything lol
In my post I wasn't mentioning "skill," so I am not sure why you would bring that up. Martinez's vulnerability makes his fights exciting and although Calderon has better defensive skills, I was bored to death watching his fight last night. Good defense, little offense. At least Whitaker and Mayweather were/are more offensive minded than Iron Boy.
If you have seen MANY of Martinez's fights like I have, you will know that Rocky has never, ever been hurt when he has gone down (he didn't even go down against Cook!). In fact, I compare those knockdowns to most of Trinidad's in his career-the flash knockdown variety. Win or lose, I believe that whoever Martinez fights at 130, the fight will be exciting.
Calderon used to fight with a more offensive yet counter puncher style, but now that he's coming in age, well he's defense first, & Whitaker and Mayweather didn't get into the pro game when they were in their late 20's now did they, nor did they hit their PEAK at around 33, and given how small he is the fact that Calderon is still the king of his division basically is a feat in itself, didn't say Cook dropped him now did i? i said Cook wobbled him something fierce, and that's a fact, re-watch the fight and it's obvious that Martinez was hurt, he recovered nicely and then came back to stop Cook badly, that's what made his win so impressive, but IMO out of all the main champs that PR has right now (Cotto, Santos, Lopez, Calderon, & Martinez) i'd say Martinez is the most beatable, and i seriously think that a motivated Guerrero will beat Martinez
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Martinez might be more entertaining but Calderon is the better all around more skilled fighter, although i like Rocky, i think his chin will give out against Guerrero, he was wobbled pretty damn bad against Cook and Cook has nothing on Guerrero when it comes to anything lol
In my post I wasn't mentioning "skill," so I am not sure why you would bring that up. Martinez's vulnerability makes his fights exciting and although Calderon has better defensive skills, I was bored to death watching his fight last night. Good defense, little offense. At least Whitaker and Mayweather were/are more offensive minded than Iron Boy.
If you have seen MANY of Martinez's fights like I have, you will know that Rocky has never, ever been hurt when he has gone down (he didn't even go down against Cook!). In fact, I compare those knockdowns to most of Trinidad's in his career-the flash knockdown variety. Win or lose, I believe that whoever Martinez fights at 130, the fight will be exciting.
Calderon used to fight with a more offensive yet counter puncher style, but now that he's coming in age, well he's defense first, & Whitaker and Mayweather didn't get into the pro game when they were in their late 20's now did they, nor did they hit their PEAK at around 33, and given how small he is the fact that Calderon is still the king of his division basically is a feat in itself, didn't say Cook dropped him now did i? i said Cook wobbled him something fierce, and that's a fact, re-watch the fight and it's obvious that Martinez was hurt, he recovered nicely and then came back to stop Cook badly, that's what made his win so impressive, but IMO out of all the main champs that PR has right now (Cotto, Santos, Lopez, Calderon, & Martinez) i'd say Martinez is the most beatable, and i seriously think that a motivated Guerrero will beat Martinez
Definitely Martinez is the most beatable, but to reiterate my point that I have been making all along, Martinez is the most exciting out of all of those you mentioned (good arguments can be made about Cotto and Lopez in terms of excitement). I mean, his nickname is Rocky, a name that symbolizes excitement. In terms of entertainment, I love a Martinez fight. In terms of skilled boxers, Martinez needs work.
In terms of Cook, you say wobbled, I say Martinez lost his balance going backward after getting hit with a pretty good and unexpected shot. "Wobble" to me signifies jelly legs, a stager, and visibly hurt. I did not see any of these.
I need to see Calderon hit his opponents more than once per round. He seems almost scared to go on the offensive and he holds a lot in close. Kind of boring to me.
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We know who won the fight. Rodel Mayol beat the chicken runner Calderon. :)
Trilogy is a must. And must be in USA. It should be in neutral corner.
No need for a 3rd fight. Mayol has had 4 title shots. And each time he's failed to win. I have no desire to watch him fail a 5th time
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I don't mind a third fight. But I think Ivan don't want anymore Mayol.
What's better, watching Mayol again somehow headbutt a man 5 inches shorter than him to lose a decision or watch Calderon go up against more likely threat like Edgar Sosa or Brian Viloria?
Is Mayol b*tching like he did after the first fight again?
mayol headbutted calderon? are you serious?
Yes, I am serious. Normally fighters who gets cuts from headbutts are of similar size as their opponents, like Cotto-Clottey & Bradley-Campbell for two recent examples. Unless Calderon is jumping up off the ground, can you explain how Mayol's head is coming into contact with that of a man 5 inches shorter than him?
You don't see the Klitschko brothers or Paul Williams clashing heads with significantly shorter opponents. I swear I never thought I'd see the day that the British were overtaken as the most blindly nationalistic 'boxing fans', but amazingly it has happened.
Re: IVAN CALDERON vs RODEL MAYOL
It seems that Calderon cant convincingly win a fight. Ever.
