Re: MAyweather 4th all time in PPV sales
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I agree with that apart from the last sentence. I do think right now he is the biggest star in terms of bringing 'casual' fans in, although the Pacquiao/Cotto fight will tell us a lot about how close he & Pac are in terms of doing that. I would certainly say Pac has a bigger hardcore fanbase, but I think their respective numbers against the same opponents show Floyd is the bigger 'draw'. I do think they are the only 2 currently transcending the sport in any way, although Cotto is not far off & I suspect he does the same should he beat Manny.
I am not sure Jaz, I think that Pacman has the hand over as well on the casual fan because of the excitement he smears all around, as it as been quoted below, I think that Floyd got a bit more excitement and used to sell a bit more because of the 24/7 and because of the way he got into rangeview with the WWE, Dancing with the stars etc. I still agree and am willing to admit that he drags more than what I wanted to say or think but still not enough to be compared to the Pacman in term of rentability and popularity. Not yet.
Your talking about your personal opinion and not the facts! Pacman is not in the top 10 all time PPV attractions despite the fact that every boxing fan knows he is more exciting than Floyd. (Not a better fighter) Floyd is 4th on that list, fourth! that means that he has to be considered the biggest PPV fighter out at the moment. in my opinion Pacmans next fight will do huge numbers close to or over a million aswell but the fact with that is Cotto is a huge draw and so is pac. when Floyd fought Marquez he was the huge draw Marquez is no huge draw!! Mayweather can do a million now fighting anybody! he is a huge draw.
First of all, can I know where do come from your numbers? Not that I call you a liar or something but when I get handed a huge list of numbers, I would like to know the source in order to see if they are viable, fictive or exaggerate so the source would be greatly appreciated.
Second, you cannot compare one second the number when Pacman fought Marquez and when he fought Mayweather as it is 2 VERY different situations: At the time, there has been no 24/7 to hype the fight and such tv shows are just SOOO much of a boost, would Pacman va Marquez been hyped that way, you can be 100% assured that the numbers would have been a lot bigger.
Third, If these numbers which you state are real and accurate, well, I just made a mistake and overlook Mayweather popularity or ability to drag peoples who want to see him lose and you won't ever see me saying Mayweather doesn't drag publicity and a crowd :)
Re: MAyweather 4th all time in PPV sales
Very impressive, especially considering styles. The three guys ahead of him offer some of the most fan friendly styles in boxing history (with DLH and Tyson as vicious knockout artists, and Holyfield being a fight-to-the-death warrior).
Considering Floyd's consensus "boring" style, its pretty remarkable that he's in this class now.
As far as guys who can be potential future PPV stars, its impossible to tell. There are tons of guys out there who have fan-friendly styles and mainstream ability, but becoming a house hold name like these guys requires that certain spark, and obviously great marketing.
What we need is a charasmatic personality with great skills to come aroudn and knock the shit out of PBF.
Re: MAyweather 4th all time in PPV sales
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I am not sure Jaz, I think that Pacman has the hand over as well on the casual fan because of the excitement he smears all around, as it as been quoted below, I think that Floyd got a bit more excitement and used to sell a bit more because of the 24/7 and because of the way he got into rangeview with the WWE, Dancing with the stars etc. I still agree and am willing to admit that he drags more than what I wanted to say or think but still not enough to be compared to the Pacman in term of rentability and popularity. Not yet.
Your talking about your personal opinion and not the facts! Pacman is not in the top 10 all time PPV attractions despite the fact that every boxing fan knows he is more exciting than Floyd. (Not a better fighter) Floyd is 4th on that list, fourth! that means that he has to be considered the biggest PPV fighter out at the moment. in my opinion Pacmans next fight will do huge numbers close to or over a million aswell but the fact with that is Cotto is a huge draw and so is pac. when Floyd fought Marquez he was the huge draw Marquez is no huge draw!! Mayweather can do a million now fighting anybody! he is a huge draw.
First of all, can I know where do come from your numbers? Not that I call you a liar or something but when I get handed a huge list of numbers, I would like to know the source in order to see if they are viable, fictive or exaggerate so the source would be greatly appreciated.
Second, you cannot compare one second the number when Pacman fought Marquez and when he fought Mayweather as it is 2 VERY different situations: At the time, there has been no 24/7 to hype the fight and such tv shows are just SOOO much of a boost, would Pacman va Marquez been hyped that way, you can be 100% assured that the numbers would have been a lot bigger.
Third, If these numbers which you state are real and accurate, well, I just made a mistake and overlook Mayweather popularity or ability to drag peoples who want to see him lose and you won't ever see me saying Mayweather doesn't drag publicity and a crowd :)
On the first page there is a link to an article with he numbers in, It is not presented in list format but contains all of the details this Article was written by Yahoo sports prior to the Mayweather Marquez fight; so after you read this article add another million PPV buys to the number as reported by HBO and a variety of other sites.
Re: MAyweather 4th all time in PPV sales
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Mayweather's crossover is money - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports
This is amazing for a man who is supposedly not a draw! the article discusses his success before the Marquez bout when he was the fifth most successful all time PPV fighter. now after overtaking Lennox Lewis due to the huge sales in the Marquez bout Mayweather has become the 4th most successful PPV star trailing only Oscar DeLaHoya(1), Tyson(2) & Holyfield(3).
here is the article for the person who requested the details.
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Mayweather's crossover is money - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports
This is amazing for a man who is supposedly not a draw! the article discusses his success before the Marquez bout when he was the fifth most successful all time PPV fighter. now after overtaking Lennox Lewis due to the huge sales in the Marquez bout Mayweather has become the 4th most successful PPV star trailing only Oscar DeLaHoya(1), Tyson(2) & Holyfield(3).
here is the article for the person who requested the details.
Thanks a lot, I underestimated FLoyd capacity to drag peoples.