Re: Froch vows to knock out Dirrel
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Froch has a bit of a thing for being a pot calling a kettle black. He was saying Dirrell was a gobby prick who should realize that you have to earn the right to talk shiit about fighters who've achieved more than you. All I could think was 'Joe Calzaghe'? It's also quite funny considering how much shit Froch has been saying about Dirrell in the build-up, whilst Dirrell has been fairly laid-back by comparison.
Froch is borderline delusional in a lot of interviews. I remember reading one a while ago where he said he can easily continue boxing for another five years because he doesn't take many punches in fights.
He's beyond belief. In the original press conference for the tournament, he described himself as the best fighter of the modern era & how this tournament would be definitive proof of that. :-X
Apparently years ago he said that he was better sportsman than David Beckham because Beckham could only cross a ball, whilst he was a complete fighter. I think this was just after he beat Magee.
I thought the best though was I saw an interview & he described how he wanted to keep hold of his good looks. I thought he'd told a great joke until he followed it up by saying how because of this fighters like him, PBF & ODLH were good for the sport :confused:
Absolutely mental, unless he thinks a couple of birds screaming his name in the Trent FM Arena makes him Nottingham's answer to Brad Pitt ;D
It still isn't sold out either.
Trent FM Arena Nottingham - Booking Site
I'm hoping he wins, it's not like we've got tons of world level boxers and can pick and choose which ones to support. I wanted him to beat Taylor too but after a few rounds he was so outclassed I wanted him to get flattened. I have a funny feeling I'll be thinking the same way a few rounds into Saturday's fight but I have a feeling Froch will scrape a win somehow.
Re: Froch vows to knock out Dirrel
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JazMerkin
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Kirkland Laing
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JazMerkin
Froch has a bit of a thing for being a pot calling a kettle black. He was saying Dirrell was a gobby prick who should realize that you have to earn the right to talk shiit about fighters who've achieved more than you. All I could think was 'Joe Calzaghe'? It's also quite funny considering how much shit Froch has been saying about Dirrell in the build-up, whilst Dirrell has been fairly laid-back by comparison.
Froch is borderline delusional in a lot of interviews. I remember reading one a while ago where he said he can easily continue boxing for another five years because he doesn't take many punches in fights.
He's beyond belief. In the original press conference for the tournament, he described himself as the best fighter of the modern era & how this tournament would be definitive proof of that. :-X
Apparently years ago he said that he was better sportsman than David Beckham because Beckham could only cross a ball, whilst he was a complete fighter. I think this was just after he beat Magee.
I thought the best though was I saw an interview & he described how he wanted to keep hold of his good looks. I thought he'd told a great joke until he followed it up by saying how because of this fighters like him, PBF & ODLH were good for the sport :confused:
Absolutely mental, unless he thinks a couple of birds screaming his name in the Trent FM Arena makes him Nottingham's answer to Brad Pitt ;D
Come on Jaz lets be fair, imagine that nose penetrating the female, the thought must be heaven for them :p.
Re: Froch vows to knock out Dirrel
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skel1983
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JazMerkin
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Froch is borderline delusional in a lot of interviews. I remember reading one a while ago where he said he can easily continue boxing for another five years because he doesn't take many punches in fights.
He's beyond belief. In the original press conference for the tournament, he described himself as the best fighter of the modern era & how this tournament would be definitive proof of that. :-X
Apparently years ago he said that he was better sportsman than David Beckham because Beckham could only cross a ball, whilst he was a complete fighter. I think this was just after he beat Magee.
I thought the best though was I saw an interview & he described how he wanted to keep hold of his good looks. I thought he'd told a great joke until he followed it up by saying how because of this fighters like him, PBF & ODLH were good for the sport :confused:
Absolutely mental, unless he thinks a couple of birds screaming his name in the Trent FM Arena makes him Nottingham's answer to Brad Pitt ;D
Come on Jaz lets be fair, imagine that nose penetrating the female, the thought must be heaven for them :p.
With the hook on that thing, it would end up more like that film Hostel :-\
I'm not Froch's biggest fan, but I've been unconvinced by whether Dirrell is really ready to step up to this level. However, I was boxrecking (yes I just verbed that) his opposition & looked at Froch's & noticed that he's never fought a fighter over 6ft above the most basic domestic level. In fact only Brian Magee & Tony Dodson have even been 6ft of his respectable opponents. I bring this up because having seen that vid you posted, Dirrell appears to have a decent height advantage. I think finding a sparring partners like Dirrell would be nigh on impossible because you see very few fighters that tall with anything even approaching Dirrell's speed.
Makes me feel this is much more even than some think.
Re: Froch vows to knock out Dirrel
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skel1983
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JazMerkin
He's beyond belief. In the original press conference for the tournament, he described himself as the best fighter of the modern era & how this tournament would be definitive proof of that. :-X
Apparently years ago he said that he was better sportsman than David Beckham because Beckham could only cross a ball, whilst he was a complete fighter. I think this was just after he beat Magee.
I thought the best though was I saw an interview & he described how he wanted to keep hold of his good looks. I thought he'd told a great joke until he followed it up by saying how because of this fighters like him, PBF & ODLH were good for the sport :confused:
Absolutely mental, unless he thinks a couple of birds screaming his name in the Trent FM Arena makes him Nottingham's answer to Brad Pitt ;D
Come on Jaz lets be fair, imagine that nose penetrating the female, the thought must be heaven for them :p.
Whenever I see Froch I for some reason think of Shock G, and not for his lyrics :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj9_yW8tZxs
Re: Froch vows to knock out Dirrel
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OK I think you guys have taken what I said and ran with it. Of course it's a different skillset but Dirrell has been boxing since 9 of course he has that skillset. Also the Showtime broadcast had Oganov being 5'9 not 5'6. That's worth noting because Dirrell is big, he's 6'2 and in the ring will look much bigger then Froch imo.
He's an inch taller than Froch and has less than half an inch in reach over him, hardly gargantuan.
Sorry, you're right, Oganov is just pushing 5 foot 9...
It was his most recent opponent, Derrick Findley who was 5 foot 6...
He might be stronger than two pumped up middle weights (arguably light middle in Derrick Findley's case) but he's not going ot be stronger than Froch, that's one thing you can count on.
Derrick Findley is the most musclebound guy you could ever imagine for that weight, I'd say 5'6 is a big stretch and no way he could get to that low of a weight. He's really stocky I covered his fight with Andre Ward he's a menacing dude. Could possibly make 154 but he's a big weight lifter I doubt he would slim down. That actually might be the toughest fight Ward has had as a pro I'd say he had more respect for Findley then he did Miranda. I never got to see the fight with Dirrell but Findley is always fun to watch, good solid fighter who can make up for the height disadvantage quick.
Anyways, the only reason I brought up Dirrell's athleticism is because like I said, Froch is ignorant. Really he is, he's been consistently ignorant throughout his whole career and like was mentioned earlier, when he talks about Dirrell half the time he's talking about Ward. There is a good chance that he can just be wowed by Dirrell. For Hattonthehammer, who's posts are always so eloquent, Dirrell's hand speed is A LOT faster then that of Pascal and Dirrell's. He operates on a different level in terms of speed and while he might not ever accomplish what Taylor did (he has by far the best resume of the tournament even if one wins out), he certainly is a hell of a lot faster.
Re: Froch vows to knock out Dirrel
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JazMerkin
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Kirkland Laing
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JazMerkin
Froch has a bit of a thing for being a pot calling a kettle black. He was saying Dirrell was a gobby prick who should realize that you have to earn the right to talk shiit about fighters who've achieved more than you. All I could think was 'Joe Calzaghe'? It's also quite funny considering how much shit Froch has been saying about Dirrell in the build-up, whilst Dirrell has been fairly laid-back by comparison.
Froch is borderline delusional in a lot of interviews. I remember reading one a while ago where he said he can easily continue boxing for another five years because he doesn't take many punches in fights.
He's beyond belief. In the original press conference for the tournament, he described himself as the best fighter of the modern era & how this tournament would be definitive proof of that. :-X
Apparently years ago he said that he was better sportsman than David Beckham because Beckham could only cross a ball, whilst he was a complete fighter. I think this was just after he beat Magee.
I thought the best though was I saw an interview & he described how he wanted to keep hold of his good looks. I thought he'd told a great joke until he followed it up by saying how because of this fighters like him, PBF & ODLH were good for the sport :confused:
Absolutely mental, unless he thinks a couple of birds screaming his name in the Trent FM Arena makes him Nottingham's answer to Brad Pitt ;D
That is hilarious! :lol:
Froch certainly wasn't first in line when god was handing out faces. He's a boxer, why on earth is he talking about good looks anyway?
Re: Froch vows to knock out Dirrel
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JazMerkin
I was boxrecking (yes I just verbed that) his opposition & looked at Froch's & noticed that he's never fought a fighter over 6ft above the most basic domestic level.
Did you also notice that as yet he hasnt faced a top 10 ranked super middle, or even defeated a reigning champ, let alone fought one?
Carl has an awfull style, he seems to think he has great reactions and power, like a version of Hamed.
Hes slow to react and often his punches miss by a mile because hes too stiff trying to load up.
I dont think Dirrell takes a good shot but like Taylor he will make Froch look daft early, as Dirrell is really untested I dont know if he will tire late and get caught but as long as he doesnt then I see him outpopinting Froch fairly comfortably and seeing as Dirrell could be the biggest natural supermiddle puncher Froch has faced, he could well stop him, if a middle can drop him.....;D
Re: Froch vows to knock out Dirrel
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JazMerkin
I thought the best though was I saw an interview & he described how he wanted to keep hold of his good looks. I thought he'd told a great joke until he followed it up by saying how because of this fighters like him, PBF & ODLH were good for the sport :confused:
Well, you should have seen how angry he looked when he heard Dirrell wants to rearange those pretty boy good looks:o
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Qy4iftwk5J...0/MrBurns9.gif;D
Re: Froch vows to knock out Dirrel
I wasn't saying that Findley was fat, he's muscle bound but that doesn't make him a legit Super Middle.
From what I've seen of him, if he wants to remain pumped up and fight taller guys... then he needs to box like a short man, very poor footwork and balance against Dirrell.
Arguably that's down to Dirrell but I couldn't really see anything in particular that he was doing to make Findley stumble around THAT badly.... I'll rewatch it and see if I think it's because Findley is crap at the weight or if Dirrell's footowrk was just THAT good. ;)
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OK I just wanted to get it in there that I liked Derrick Findley as a fighter I didn't want to turn the thread in that direction. Also like I said I haven't seen that fight so I wouldn't know. He is a tough guy that's all I'm saying and he is exciting when matched properly (and while he gave Ward small trouble, he was still shutout and shutdown) he can be exciting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01oBAF3IE_w
See, did you not enjoy that? Anyways. Dirrell beats Froch, Derrick Findley or no Derrick Findley ;)
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That actually might be the toughest fight Ward has had as a pro I'd say he had more respect for Findley then he did Miranda.
Gotta disagree there. I think I had Darnell Boone just beating him.
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That actually might be the toughest fight Ward has had as a pro I'd say he had more respect for Findley then he did Miranda.
Gotta disagree there. I think I had Darnell Boone just beating him.
No way Jaz I don't know what to say if you had that score I suggest rewatching. He got knocked down and gave away the rest of the round but there is simply no argument to be made that he lost 4 rounds of that fight. It was a shock (and a setback) but I think you may be a bit fuzzy on the memory ;)
And yeah that was more difficult then the Findley fight regardless, he had Michael Jordan who had just signed him to an endorsement deal ringside for that one it was a lot of pressure but he didn't lose that fight. The crowd booed the decision but that's no determining factor. I thought he lost 1 round others gave Boone the round after too but certainly no more then that.
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No way Jaz I don't know what to say if you had that score I suggest rewatching. He got knocked down and gave away the rest of the round but there is simply no argument to be made that he lost 4 rounds of that fight. It was a shock (and a setback) but I think you may be a bit fuzzy on the memory ;)
And yeah that was more difficult then the Findley fight regardless, he had Michael Jordan who had just signed him to an endorsement deal ringside for that one it was a lot of pressure but he didn't lose that fight. The crowd booed the decision but that's no determining factor. I thought he lost 1 round others gave Boone the round after too but certainly no more then that.
Well, maybe I will rewatch it, but I remember thinking when I watched it that Boone got jobbed, I definitely had more than 2 rounds for him. I'll youtube it later, but I know it wasn't a fight that Ward just dropped a single round
Re: Froch vows to knock out Dirrel
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JazMerkin
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amat
No way Jaz I don't know what to say if you had that score I suggest rewatching. He got knocked down and gave away the rest of the round but there is simply no argument to be made that he lost 4 rounds of that fight. It was a shock (and a setback) but I think you may be a bit fuzzy on the memory ;)
And yeah that was more difficult then the Findley fight regardless, he had Michael Jordan who had just signed him to an endorsement deal ringside for that one it was a lot of pressure but he didn't lose that fight. The crowd booed the decision but that's no determining factor. I thought he lost 1 round others gave Boone the round after too but certainly no more then that.
Well, maybe I will rewatch it, but I remember thinking when I watched it that Boone got jobbed, I definitely had more than 2 rounds for him. I'll youtube it later, but I know it wasn't a fight that Ward just dropped a single round
I think it was round 3 or 4 he got dropped, he lost that one then possibly spent away the next round. Boone wasn't really landing anything clean but he was firing from a ways out and trying to bully Ward who still hadn't regained his equilibrium. By the end of the round he had his rythym back. I think one judge had it 57-56 and that's about the closest it could have possibly been scored as Boone won at most 2 rounds plus the knockdown. I had it 5-1 but definitely a shakey performance still that happens.
