Well really I could go on forever with these silly little points. I was just trying to say you can't really go off who stopped who at what stage!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
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Well really I could go on forever with these silly little points. I was just trying to say you can't really go off who stopped who at what stage!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
obvious, simple answer but it has to be pacquiao
very rare at the lower weights you find a guy who can knock someone out with one punch
The guy is an animal at 122 pounds and an animal at 140.....the word "knockout artist" in the dictionary should just come with a picture of manny
His KO of Hatton was brilliant, but who else has he KOed with one punch?Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
I'm not saying PAC isn't a hard puncher, but he's not a one-punch KO guy typically.
Agreed. I know Oscar is iron chinned but he beat him with accumulation!Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepHis KO of Hatton was brilliant, but who else has he KOed with one punch?Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
I'm not saying PAC isn't a hard puncher, but he's not a one-punch KO guy typically.
for me without question its david haye, his record speaks for itself, also have u seen his training sessions on the pads, unfukkin real, the mans a walking stick of dynamite
Floyd "Mooooooonnneeeeeeeyyyyyyyy" Mayweather!
:rolleyes:;D
...pads don't hit you back
I think to answer this question we really have to answer the question of "What's the best KO each fighter has?" and not meaning over the best opponent or anything but the most violent KO each fighter has...I think Pacquiao-Hatton and Abraham-Taylor rate at the top.
I'm not sure Vitali even has a big 1 punch KO recently...he hasn't really sat on his punches since his return.
Wlad's big KO's are: Austin, I don't care who it was that got clocked by those hooks they were done; Brock, anytime you face plant someone into the canvas you've done a good job.
Haye's best might be Macca or maybe Bonin was his best show of power..I don't know
i take it half ur message was meant for me lyle, seriously mate just youtube haye on some of his training camps and if ur still not a believer than ur a crazier dude than me, (not a bad thing) the man for me is the hardest puncher in the sport tho. peaceQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I understand dude, but I'm just saying all these other guys prove it IN THE RING
...just listen to the punch land on Ray Austin 1:14 of the vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO_sWnawpU4
The case for Randall Bailey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tCFhWJg1Z8
The case for Valero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc2Ri...eature=related
If it's p4p then it's gotta be Pac. Dude started at 106. Emagine dude like Calderon or Nietes knocking out welters.
What Welter did he knock out?Quote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION
What welter pac KOed?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepWhat Welter did he knock out?Quote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION
He stopped De la Hoya at 147 but Hatton was the big KO, still impressive but at 140 and not 147
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATIONWhat welter pac KOed?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepWhat Welter did he knock out?Quote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION
He made DLH quit on his stool.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepYesQuote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATIONWhat welter pac KOed?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
That's doesn't mean he's the hardest puncher in boxing though, that means he landed about 6 million punches on him. We have had some amazing KOs recently. I mean Tomasz Adamek did more damage just earlier today to Golota and he was outweighed by 40 lbs in that fight, not to mention two knockdowns, in reality Golota is at the same point in his career that ODLH was when he fought PAC. I'm not saying PAC is a light puncher by any means, but there are fighters who punch harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATIONHe made DLH quit on his stool.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepYesQuote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION
Where talking about p4p best punchers here right? Did Adamek climbed 11 weight divisions?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThat's doesn't mean he's the hardest puncher in boxing though, that means he landed about 6 million punches on him. We have had some amazing KOs recently. I mean Tomasz Adamek did more damage just earlier today to Golota and he was outweighed by 40 lbs in that fight, not to mention two knockdowns, in reality Golota is at the same point in his career that ODLH was when he fought PAC. I'm not saying PAC is a light puncher by any means, but there are fighters who punch harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATIONHe made DLH quit on his stool.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
What are you talking about 11 divisions? That has nothing to do with the fact that people punch harder than Pacquiao. Adamek can't go any higher last I checked Heavyweight was still the highest weightclass.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATIONWhere talking about p4p best punchers here right? Did Adamek climbed 11 weight divisions?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThat's doesn't mean he's the hardest puncher in boxing though, that means he landed about 6 million punches on him. We have had some amazing KOs recently. I mean Tomasz Adamek did more damage just earlier today to Golota and he was outweighed by 40 lbs in that fight, not to mention two knockdowns, in reality Golota is at the same point in his career that ODLH was when he fought PAC. I'm not saying PAC is a light puncher by any means, but there are fighters who punch harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION
Come fight night what was the difference in weight against ODLH?
How many many knockdowns did Manny score?
In Adamek we are talking about a guy who's moved up three weightclasses and was outweighed by 40 lbs and just battered the guy.
Show me a video example of a one-punch KO from PAC besides Hatton.
I can't believe I'm getting suckered into this again, but here we go.
I'm with you Killersheep, Pac has gone up a lot of weight divisions and to his credit has kept good power throughout, BUT he is an accumulative puncher and his KO of Hatton was more because Hatton played into his hands in the same way he did in the 10th against Mayweather when Floyd caught him with the check hook after he winged with a stupid left hook.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepWhat are you talking about 11 divisions? That has nothing to do with the fact that people punch harder than Pacquiao. Adamek can't go any higher last I checked Heavyweight was still the highest weightclass.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATIONWhere talking about p4p best punchers here right? Did Adamek climbed 11 weight divisions?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Come fight night what was the difference in weight against ODLH?
How many many knockdowns did Manny score?
In Adamek we are talking about a guy who's moved up three weightclasses and was outweighed by 40 lbs and just battered the guy.
Show me a video example of a one-punch KO from PAC besides Hatton.
I can't believe I'm getting suckered into this again, but here we go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwTW-4RsSOAQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepWhat are you talking about 11 divisions? That has nothing to do with the fact that people punch harder than Pacquiao. Adamek can't go any higher last I checked Heavyweight was still the highest weightclass.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATIONWhere talking about p4p best punchers here right? Did Adamek climbed 11 weight divisions?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Come fight night what was the difference in weight against ODLH?
How many many knockdowns did Manny score?
In Adamek we are talking about a guy who's moved up three weightclasses and was outweighed by 40 lbs and just battered the guy.
Show me a video example of a one-punch KO from PAC besides Hatton.
I can't believe I'm getting suckered into this again, but here we go.
One Punch To Lucero's Chin :)
It was a good shot yes but Lucero has been KO'd off every good fighter he has faced and is certainly not an elite fighter. It's who Rocky Juarez used to KO his way back into the limelight after his 2 fights with Barrera!Quote:
Originally Posted by PanchoVillahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwTW-4RsSOAQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepWhat are you talking about 11 divisions? That has nothing to do with the fact that people punch harder than Pacquiao. Adamek can't go any higher last I checked Heavyweight was still the highest weightclass.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION
Come fight night what was the difference in weight against ODLH?
How many many knockdowns did Manny score?
In Adamek we are talking about a guy who's moved up three weightclasses and was outweighed by 40 lbs and just battered the guy.
Show me a video example of a one-punch KO from PAC besides Hatton.
I can't believe I'm getting suckered into this again, but here we go.
One Punch To Lucero's Chin :)
Can't deny it was a good shot from Pac though!
I like Wlad Klitschko, those KOs of Brock and Byrd were something......
Yeah....I think he hits harder than Vitali anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE_8IUTByLs
i think that out of everyone on that list the one who has the best one punch ko is Miranda over Banks
Just watched the Vitali-Sanders fight again. Fuck me Sanders was so sloppy it was amazing but how good was his chin? Vitali was putting real venom into those shots and he was still standing at the end!Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleYeah....I think he hits harder than Vitali anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE_8IUTByLs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pffSD...eature=related
On another note if Roy Jones still give people digs like these, I think he'd be up there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvo90gclSOg&feature=fvw
Maybe Toney was slightly off balance but still a great shot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7TMb...eature=related
My Favourite, against Griffin after the cheating bastard pretended he had been shot to get Roy DQ'd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5eGSwogoBM
Sick power here against a nobody in Art Serwano but still very impressive power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nKE8LME4sQ
The greatest body shot ever. If you listen to the impact it's no surprise Hill had a broken rib!
i went for pacman
Fair enough, you did what I asked. I still submit he is not the hardest p4p puncher in boxing. That was a great shot though no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanchoVillahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwTW-4RsSOAOne Punch To Lucero's Chin :)Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepWhat are you talking about 11 divisions? That has nothing to do with the fact that people punch harder than Pacquiao. Adamek can't go any higher last I checked Heavyweight was still the highest weightclass.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION
Come fight night what was the difference in weight against ODLH?
How many many knockdowns did Manny score?
In Adamek we are talking about a guy who's moved up three weightclasses and was outweighed by 40 lbs and just battered the guy.
Show me a video example of a one-punch KO from PAC besides Hatton.
I can't believe I'm getting suckered into this again, but here we go.
Yes I agree he was never an elite fighter but two things to consider is the fact that he was shut down in 3 rounds by a single punch stepping back when he was undefeated at 21-0. Secondly, this was at Super Bantamweight and 4 divisions north at Super Welterweight, he carries the same power. I think he is the current definition of hardest puncher p4p. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuIt was a good shot yes but Lucero has been KO'd off every good fighter he has faced and is certainly not an elite fighter. It's who Rocky Juarez used to KO his way back into the limelight after his 2 fights with Barrera!Quote:
Originally Posted by PanchoVillahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwTW-4RsSOAQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
One Punch To Lucero's Chin :)
Can't deny it was a good shot from Pac though!
Now he fought at 154? This is my problem with PAC fanaticism the legend grows before the story is even finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanchoVillaYes I agree he was never an elite fighter but two things to consider is the fact that he was shut down in 3 rounds by a single punch stepping back when he was undefeated at 21-0. Secondly, this was at Super Bantamweight and 4 divisions north at Super Welterweight, he carries the same power. I think he is the current definition of hardest puncher p4p. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuIt was a good shot yes but Lucero has been KO'd off every good fighter he has faced and is certainly not an elite fighter. It's who Rocky Juarez used to KO his way back into the limelight after his 2 fights with Barrera!Quote:
Originally Posted by PanchoVilla
Can't deny it was a good shot from Pac though!
Sorry mate 4 divisions up, I meant Super Lightweight. My mistake.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepNow he fought at 154? This is my problem with PAC fanaticism the legend grows before the story is even finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanchoVillaYes I agree he was never an elite fighter but two things to consider is the fact that he was shut down in 3 rounds by a single punch stepping back when he was undefeated at 21-0. Secondly, this was at Super Bantamweight and 4 divisions north at Super Welterweight, he carries the same power. I think he is the current definition of hardest puncher p4p. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
yea i agree, most of these guys jump all over him cause he's the most popular name right now, he's supposed to be their favorite fighter yet they know nothing about his career, it's a bit ridiculous, if he fought at 154 is he that scared of Cotto then? lol :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepNow he fought at 154? This is my problem with PAC fanaticism the legend grows before the story is even finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanchoVillaYes I agree he was never an elite fighter but two things to consider is the fact that he was shut down in 3 rounds by a single punch stepping back when he was undefeated at 21-0. Secondly, this was at Super Bantamweight and 4 divisions north at Super Welterweight, he carries the same power. I think he is the current definition of hardest puncher p4p. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Nothing to worry mate, if Cotto beats Pacquiao which I think he can, he will be as popular.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyea i agree, most of these guys jump all over him cause he's the most popular name right now, he's supposed to be their favorite fighter yet they know nothing about his career, it's a bit ridiculous, if he fought at 154 is he that scared of Cotto then? lol :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepNow he fought at 154? This is my problem with PAC fanaticism the legend grows before the story is even finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanchoVilla
That popularity will only go south after the obvious eventual matchup with Mayweather though. No matter who wins in Pac and Cotto, Mayweather will be too good.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanchoVillaNothing to worry mate, if Cotto beats Pacquiao which I think he can, he will be as popular.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyea i agree, most of these guys jump all over him cause he's the most popular name right now, he's supposed to be their favorite fighter yet they know nothing about his career, it's a bit ridiculous, if he fought at 154 is he that scared of Cotto then? lol :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I vote Pacquiao, he has carried his power up to the junior welter's and to a point welter. A lil bias though;D
[quote=ryanman;801677]I also think David Haye should be on the list. We can only go on what he has done so far, which is blast out pretty much everyone. Time will tell at heavy though.
I dont know enough about all of the boxers ability and achievements so im not gonna guess, but i have to agree with this chap ryanman, David Hayes delivered a convincing amout of mighty ferocious blows in the cruiserweight devision. But like ryanman Im holding judgement til a couple of fights further into his career until I start vouching for his pound for pound punching ability.
[quote=LethalChris;802658]a stupid post from a stupid person.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
haha, no im joking. I hear you Lethal. Best new member for sure.
[quote=ryanman;802661]hmm, that looks like im calling myself stupid, because Lethal didn't quote properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by LethalChrisa stupid post from a stupid person.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
haha, no im joking. I hear you Lethal. Best new member for sure.
Right now... the hardest right is Danny Garcia. that mthrker makes heads turn. if u didn't know, u know now... this guy has world class power.
Hardest punch to the body... Canelo. I haven't seen anyone punch like that to the body in a long time.
Hardest left..Donaire. this guy has rocks in his glove.
Hardest straight left...Pac