Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
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Greig
I'm sorry but what I believe Teddy (who I like and respect) just said is that he has been told by a reliable source that...
Somebody from within the Pacquiao camp sent a piece of electronic communication (that can be saved, printed whatever) and in it asked the Mayweather camp what the penalty would be if Manny tested positive to performance enhancing drugs. THEN they send ANOTHER EMAIL asking that, IF Manny WAS found to be using PED's, could they KEEP IT A SECRET?? This is what I'm supposed to believe?
Why would someone in Pac's camp do that?:rolleyes:
yeah how could anyone be so stupid! :rolleyes: For $40 or $40million people are dumb.
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Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
..prove everyone wrong. Take the test fight the fight.
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
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Mar
..prove everyone wrong. Take the test fight the fight.
or take a less risky fight and no test OR keep stalling on this one while you get some extra training in etc, etc.
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
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JazMerkin
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JJson
Of course MP sycophants will now scream that Freddy Atlas is biased. If he had taken their idiotic position of course he would be balanced and credible.
Freddie Atlas said that sources who he trusted said they saw the emails. That means that people, in whose veracity he had absolute confidence supplied him with this information.
I surmise that GBP, because they have a stake in Manny, is probably holding down on circulating this info. When it does come out we can look forward to the even more stretching of logic and commonsense by MP sycophants.
Yeah, good ol' Freddie Atlas :-\
lol he did spell sycophants correctly. twice.
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
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miles
I'm glad that Atlas took the stance he did. The whole "I will not be dictated to argument" is weak to say the least. A two week window is ideal. Roach said himself that Manny doesn't feel comfortable for 3 days after taking blood. Well Mayweather has offered 2 entire weeks. And Pacs camp decline it? Hmm.
I'm not sure how reliable these emails are that Atlas is talking about, but even without emails and added scandal, Pacquiao still looks highly suspicious. The fight is available, Mayweather has said that he wants to fight. What are we waiting for? Oh right, Manny is worried about a blood test! I was watching that dicumentary "Supersize me" the other day. The guy was getting blood tests practically everyday without a bother. What is Manny's excuse? He's like a little kid, "Mummy. Don't let them touch my blood! Wa wa wa".
It seems to me that Pac really must be juicing or else simply doesn't want to fight Mayweather.
That's the rumor we should've started, not steroids. Manny is afraid to fight!
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
Let me correct the title of your post.
"Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced"
Atlas says "In no way am I saying, I think Pacquiao is dirty." "All I'm saying is the common man, the regular guy on the streets is saying "Why won't you take a blood test if your clean?"
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Teddy needs ro stik to boxing an leave thr gossip to the papers.:foruml10gc5:
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
I have 1 question though. If the source is reliable enough. Then how come we haven't seen the emails printed yet and shown?
Of course anything is possible, but I'm thinking any sports journalist would love this kind of tidbit and would dig deeper to get the info and evidence out there.
Just think Manny is 1/2 the face of boxing today. This would be a humongous scandal. To have the p4p no.1 a cheat.
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
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fan johnny
Let me correct the title of your post.
"Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced"
Atlas says "In no way am I saying, I think Pacquiao is dirty." "All I'm saying is the common man, the regular guy on the streets is saying "Why won't you take a blood test if your clean?"
listen to the whole thing, his only covering his own back with that, we know how pac loves taking things to court :rolleyes:
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
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erik_corrales
speaking of "reliable sources", check this outtt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBFI7KT4uaw
dammit i hate it that i'm trying to be updated with this shit but i can't help it.
latest update:
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TOP RANK IS GOING TO GIVE GOLDENBOY AND TEAM MAYWEATHER A
24hr take it or leave it deal!!!! they have not budged off the
24days. If they say no clottey fight is on.
24day or 24hr?
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
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erik_corrales
speaking of "reliable sources", check this outtt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBFI7KT4uaw
dammit i hate it that i'm trying to be updated with this shit but i can't help it.
latest update:
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TOP RANK IS GOING TO GIVE GOLDENBOY AND TEAM MAYWEATHER A
24hr take it or leave it deal!!!! they have not budged off the
24days. If they say no clottey fight is on.
24day or 24hr?
i think he means 24 hours to agree to the 24 day testing proposal
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
The "dirty e-mail" does not exist. Atlas was relying on gossip, which was also reported in the New York Daily News on December 25, 2009. This rumors according to the documents were leaked by Mayweather Jr. This allegation (s) were also included in the actual lawsuits filed in the Nevada court., Line #38 and #39. Teddy Atlas is a known critics of Pacman, he is not a journalist and therefore dont know how to report. Although he said the report came from reliable sources does not necessarily mean its true, because he never saw the e-mail. Arum is expecting an apology and I believe the NYDaily News deleted that rumors from their achive. He could end up in the witness stand or a defendant for that matter.
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
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generalbulldog
I have 1 question though. If the source is reliable enough. Then how come we haven't seen the emails printed yet and shown?
Of course anything is possible, but I'm thinking any sports journalist would love this kind of tidbit and would dig deeper to get the info and evidence out there.
Just think Manny is 1/2 the face of boxing today. This would be a humongous scandal. To have the p4p no.1 a cheat.
I think its all BS really, but if the emails did exist i couldn't see them getting leaked because this fight hasn't been ruled out sometime in the future. If these were leaked, there would be no possibilitly of this fight ever happening, if they keep it quiet, it may yet happen. If they did come out the ensuing scandal would destroy boxing's reputation.
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
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OumaFan
This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard of in my life. I'm sorry but my faith in mankind will be shot to shit if Manny's people tried to discuss this with Floyd's people THROUGH EMAIL. Hi Police, I was just wondering if its ok if I could sleep with dead people. Thanks in advance for your response. P.S. please DON'T forward this to anyone.
DUMBEST SHIT I'VE EVER HEARD.
Teddy better have seen these emails.
If this is true I'll just be deeply disturbed about the future of mankind.
He's probably juicing but this is effing ridiculous.
Read my post: 01.11.10. There was no "dirty e-mail". It appears that Atlas wanted some attention. This rumor or report is included in the lawsuit.
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That's the final straw. I'VE made up MY mind concerning Pacquiao. Whether there's truth to Teddy's claims or not, there is too much suspicion to just sweep this under the rug (like Pac's team would want). He can get as many impressive KO wins as he wants, but I'll never pay for another one of his fights. A couple months ago, fanboys were exclaiming that he's an ATG, I find that laughable now. His name shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Robinson, never mind on the list of greats. He shouldn't have even been allowed to share the ring with true warriors like Cotto, DLH and Marquez.
An absolute DISGRACE to the sport.
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
What a stupid gimmick that is.
sending an email to the opposing camp? WTF???
Anybody that entertains this gimmick is a certifiable idiot.
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
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miron_lang
What a stupid gimmick that is.
sending an email to the opposing camp? WTF???
Anybody that entertains this gimmick is a certifiable idiot.
Whether it was an email, a phone call, or a question sent in code, it's something you'd suspect from their camp. Trust me, I'm sure no one is resting their entire opinion on Teddy Atlas' rumors. This is only on top of many other reasons to speculate about Manny's methods.
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
I said it before. Mayweather has taken a huge dump in Manny's living room. It's up to Pacquiao to clean it up by taking the test. Imagine a question mark over your entire career when you could clear it up with one fight and earn $40 mil in the process. Why wouldn't you want your legacy clear?
Re: Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced
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generalbulldog
I have 1 question though. If the source is reliable enough. Then how come we haven't seen the emails printed yet and shown?
Of course anything is possible, but I'm thinking any sports journalist would love this kind of tidbit and would dig deeper to get the info and evidence out there.
Just think Manny is 1/2 the face of boxing today. This would be a humongous scandal. To have the p4p no.1 a cheat.
To answer your question: 40 millions each, a couple for each promoters and an historical record. Even if there is cheating and that Mayweather knows it, bet on it he won't spit the proofs around for a juicy payday, if ever it's true, you can be certain that some secret talks will be made about penalties if Pacman is caught etc. Of course, only if he really cheated.