Froch is THE worst boxer I have EVER seen

idiot

if Froch is the worst youve ever seen then you havent seen a hell of a lot of him and the rest of the super middleweight division must also be complete pony

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Its been tried and tested, no can do. Something tells me your still hurting from the Dirrell loss. Tell me if im wrong.

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What did u get banned for mate

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Talking hard when he's not. Love Lefty. He's a solid dude until he starts talking like he's hard. PS. Most people on here, including me, enjoy Froch. We appreciate him for what he is... A flawed, exciting fighter... with disgustingly bad foot placement and general boxing ability... But the man wins and that's all that counts at the end of the day ;D

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That's a dam shame he got banned, he had alot going for him, so much untapped potential gone to waste, word is he could have gone on to become a saddos prediction winner, there was even talk that his skill level was of such caliber he could of made forum moderater one day. This news is upsetting. Why lefty, why did u do this to urself, now we will never find out how great u could have become










Job biscuit ( he is everything he is nothing,he is fire he is rain)

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What did u get banned for mate

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Talking hard when he's not. Love Lefty. He's a solid dude until he starts talking like he's hard. PS. Most people on here, including me, enjoy Froch. We appreciate him for what he is... A flawed, exciting fighter... with disgustingly bad foot placement and general boxing ability... But the man wins and that's all that counts at the end of the day ;D

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That's a dam shame he got banned, he had alot going for him, so much untapped potential gone to waste, word is he could have gone on to become a saddos prediction winner, there was even talk that his skill level was of such caliber he could of made forum moderater one day. This news is upsetting. Why lefty, why did u do this to urself, now we will never find out how great u could have become










Job biscuit ( he is everything he is nothing,he is fire he is rain)

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Something tells me leftys not as far away as you think he is

he may even be posting on this very thread (cough, cough)

Surely not hth










Job buscuit (MAN: doris have u seen my scarf, DORIS:no I haven't , did u check the laundry room.MAN: Yes I've checked the laundry room u stupid ho. DORIS: don't u dare call me a ho.fukk u. MAN: one of these days doris,POW, straight to the moon)

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Talking hard when he's not. Love Lefty. He's a solid dude until he starts talking like he's hard. PS. Most people on here, including me, enjoy Froch. We appreciate him for what he is... A flawed, exciting fighter... with disgustingly bad foot placement and general boxing ability... But the man wins and that's all that counts at the end of the day ;D

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That's a dam shame he got banned, he had alot going for him, so much untapped potential gone to waste, word is he could have gone on to become a saddos prediction winner, there was even talk that his skill level was of such caliber he could of made forum moderater one day. This news is upsetting. Why lefty, why did u do this to urself, now we will never find out how great u could have become










Job biscuit ( he is everything he is nothing,he is fire he is rain)

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Something tells me leftys not as far away as you think he is

he may even be posting on this very thread (cough, cough)

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It's not him. It's his siamese twin brother :D

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Come on Lefty just ask to be unbanned it would save us all a little trouble. Also, I almost kind of like Froch because it's good that he's on your side of the pond and the most likeable guy in a non-gay way.

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Its been tried and tested, no can do. Something tells me your still hurting from the Dirrell loss. Tell me if im wrong.

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What did u get banned for mate

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Arguing with JT Rock a while back. Some fools on here think because I'm only 18 they can treat me different.

All will be revealed once I reach Lets Get It On. I'll be taking a break again from this site soon.

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Its been tried and tested, no can do. Something tells me your still hurting from the Dirrell loss. Tell me if im wrong.

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What did u get banned for mate

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I don't think it's that mate. I think it's more to do with you talking like VD's sidekick ever since you had that WWE style fued with him about a year back. You're posting style completely changed. The way VD posts works for him, because we don't know what he looks like and he's consistent and very funny with it. He also didn't start a thread in off topic asking for opinions on a necklace. :-X


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If it's any help, I picture VD to look like that guy out of Cypress Hill.

Froch is much better than he gets credit for. I've been one of his biggest critics and thought he got the benefit of an outright robbery against Dirrell, but his skills are underrated, his body punching particularly can get overlooked.

I think some things like his reported 'granite chin' and 'p4p power' are vastly overrated, but he's a quality fighter by standard. The fact that he got outboxed in the main by Taylor & Dirrell means nothing, these guys were two of the best amateurs of the past 12 years. All these people overly criticizing him are going to make become something I don't want to be, a Carl Froch supporter.

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Its been tried and tested, no can do. Something tells me your still hurting from the Dirrell loss. Tell me if im wrong.

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What did u get banned for mate

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Arguing with JT Rock a while back. Some fools on here think because I'm only 18 they can treat me different.

All will be revealed once I reach Lets Get It On. I'll be taking a break again from this site soon.

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i must of not been around when all of it kicked off mate, from what i remember tho u always been a stand up guy

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What did u get banned for mate

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I don't think it's that mate. I think it's more to do with you talking like VD's sidekick ever since you had that WWE style fued with him about a year back. You're posting style completely changed. The way VD posts works for him, because we don't know what he looks like and he's consistent and very funny with it. He also didn't start a thread in off topic asking for opinions on a necklace. :-X


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Thats peoples opinion, I cant change that but I dont take much notice.

I've said before I have to change my dialect when I post on here. I cant speak my "Scouse" language I do in real life as you wouldn't understand "Scouse" especially a lot of Americans etc. So I have to alter what I say when I post. Its true I dont speak like I type on here. If you want me to start speaking scouse I'm all for it, it would make posting so much easier but it aint worth the hassle of people asking "What does that mean ?".

In reference to VD I admit I probbably use/look for the same dialect as he does. I met him last year and were pretty cool, I dont know if that has something to do with it, who knows. But like I said, Its not my best interest to start speaking on here using Scouse dialect. Which I do in real life obviousley because I was born and raised in Liverpool. Would cause too much confusion.

You dont believe me I'll send you my mobile number. You can see how I sound in real life.

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Arguing with JT Rock a while back. Some fools on here think because I'm only 18 they can treat me different.

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I don't think it's that mate. I think it's more to do with you talking like VD's sidekick ever since you had that WWE style fued with him about a year back. You're posting style completely changed. The way VD posts works for him, because we don't know what he looks like and he's consistent and very funny with it. He also didn't start a thread in off topic asking for opinions on a necklace. :-X


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Thats peoples opinion, I cant change that but I dont take much notice.

I've said before I have to change my dialect when I post on here. I cant speak my "Scouse" language I do in real life as you wouldn't understand "Scouse" especially a lot of Americans etc. So I have to alter what I say when I post. Its true I dont speak like I type on here. If you want me to start speaking scouse I'm all for it, it would make posting so much easier but it aint worth the hassle of people asking "What does that mean ?".

In reference to VD I admit I probbably use/look for the same dialect as he does. I met him last year and were pretty cool, I dont know if that has something to do with it, who knows. But like I said, Its not my best interest to start speaking on here using Scouse dialect. Which I do in real life obviousley because I was born and raised in Liverpool. Would cause too much confusion.

You dont believe me I'll send you my mobile number. You can see how I sound in real life.

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Stop trying to pull on here you poof ;)

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Arguing with JT Rock a while back. Some fools on here think because I'm only 18 they can treat me different.

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I don't think it's that mate. I think it's more to do with you talking like VD's sidekick ever since you had that WWE style fued with him about a year back. You're posting style completely changed. The way VD posts works for him, because we don't know what he looks like and he's consistent and very funny with it. He also didn't start a thread in off topic asking for opinions on a necklace. :-X


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Thats peoples opinion, I cant change that but I dont take much notice.

I've said before I have to change my dialect when I post on here. I cant speak my "Scouse" language I do in real life as you wouldn't understand "Scouse" especially a lot of Americans etc. So I have to alter what I say when I post. Its true I dont speak like I type on here. If you want me to start speaking scouse I'm all for it, it would make posting so much easier but it aint worth the hassle of people asking "What does that mean ?".

In reference to VD I admit I probbably use/look for the same dialect as he does. I met him last year and were pretty cool, I dont know if that has something to do with it, who knows. But like I said, Its not my best interest to start speaking on here using Scouse dialect. Which I do in real life obviousley because I was born and raised in Liverpool. Would cause too much confusion.

You dont believe me I'll send you my mobile number. You can see how I sound in real life.

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I knew it. You're not Lefty. You're Chantelle.

Get your jugs out :cool:

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Exaggerating? Maybe...I have watched guys like Mayorga, Carlos Maussa..honestly, I think he's slightly better than Maussa.

This guy was so woeful against Kessler, I ask myself every time I watch him how he ever won a world title?? (I have some idea's why which I'm gonna mention)

Kessler was nowhere near his best and still thoroughly beat Froch..I can't see how anybody could have even thought about giving the fight to Froch? He had a few good rounds towards the end of the fight but I didn't think the judge was too far off calling it a 117-111.

If Froch would have got the nod in Nottingham, I would have called that a blatant robbery.

I've seen people throw shots with better technique in the their first day at a boxing gym. How many times did this idiot throw a shot which missed completely and squared him up leaving him way out of position?

In fact he nearly got knocked out when this happened once I think it was the 5th or 8th (I mix up when Kessler slipped down)

How about the time when he missed and did a complete 360? Awful!!

He has piss poor hand speed, piss poor defence, piss poor technique and piss poor reflexes

How has someone so bad been undefeated for so long and even won a world title?

Well he's lucky for being blessed with certain attributes..

The main ones are his stupidly long arms which sometimes allows him to get away with having zero defence and also gives him that "ball and chain" power like Hearns had.

Secondly, he has good stamina. He should be saying "Thank Fuck" every single day for his stamina or he'd have been exposed a long time ago.

Thirdly, a fair chin. I say fair because he can be knocked out. Just you watch. Kessler wobbled and punished him for his recklessness. Direll also wobbled him with a shot he didn't see because of his lack of defence. Taylor dropped him too.

By and large though, he takes big shots well. When he doesn't see them though, which is often due to being so wild, he is vulnerable.

Anyway, rant over but the reason this guy get's to me so much is that his ego is out of control. Pure delusion. I've never seen anything like it...Hatton, Audley and Calzaghe have nothing on this guy!

No doubt some of you will stick up for old Frochy, but please, tell me honestly what it is about this guy that is going over my head apart from the fact his recklessness leads to tons of leather being smashed upon his stupid his face? (Which is fairly entertaining, yes)

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Right then so when will you be challenging him? seriousely a lot of people on these forums talk about boxers that are actually doing things like they could hold a candle to them in the ring when blatantly if they could they wouldnt be on a forum winding themselves up through jelousy and blurting out a load of bollocks like they can actually box themselves, if its so easy get yourself forward. Honestly though i apologise because its so much harder to sit behind a computer and pull apart someones so called ''piss poor'' performance than it is to go out there and achieve somthing yourself isnt it, who are you again?

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I don't think it's that mate. I think it's more to do with you talking like VD's sidekick ever since you had that WWE style fued with him about a year back. You're posting style completely changed. The way VD posts works for him, because we don't know what he looks like and he's consistent and very funny with it. He also didn't start a thread in off topic asking for opinions on a necklace. :-X


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Thats peoples opinion, I cant change that but I dont take much notice.

I've said before I have to change my dialect when I post on here. I cant speak my "Scouse" language I do in real life as you wouldn't understand "Scouse" especially a lot of Americans etc. So I have to alter what I say when I post. Its true I dont speak like I type on here. If you want me to start speaking scouse I'm all for it, it would make posting so much easier but it aint worth the hassle of people asking "What does that mean ?".

In reference to VD I admit I probbably use/look for the same dialect as he does. I met him last year and were pretty cool, I dont know if that has something to do with it, who knows. But like I said, Its not my best interest to start speaking on here using Scouse dialect. Which I do in real life obviousley because I was born and raised in Liverpool. Would cause too much confusion.

You dont believe me I'll send you my mobile number. You can see how I sound in real life.

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I knew it. You're not Lefty. You're Chantelle.

Get your jugs out :cool:

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i remember her, i would smash that too pieces

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Exaggerating? Maybe...I have watched guys like Mayorga, Carlos Maussa..honestly, I think he's slightly better than Maussa.

This guy was so woeful against Kessler, I ask myself every time I watch him how he ever won a world title?? (I have some idea's why which I'm gonna mention)

Kessler was nowhere near his best and still thoroughly beat Froch..I can't see how anybody could have even thought about giving the fight to Froch? He had a few good rounds towards the end of the fight but I didn't think the judge was too far off calling it a 117-111.

If Froch would have got the nod in Nottingham, I would have called that a blatant robbery.

I've seen people throw shots with better technique in the their first day at a boxing gym. How many times did this idiot throw a shot which missed completely and squared him up leaving him way out of position?

In fact he nearly got knocked out when this happened once I think it was the 5th or 8th (I mix up when Kessler slipped down)

How about the time when he missed and did a complete 360? Awful!!

He has piss poor hand speed, piss poor defence, piss poor technique and piss poor reflexes

How has someone so bad been undefeated for so long and even won a world title?

Well he's lucky for being blessed with certain attributes..

The main ones are his stupidly long arms which sometimes allows him to get away with having zero defence and also gives him that "ball and chain" power like Hearns had.

Secondly, he has good stamina. He should be saying "Thank Fuck" every single day for his stamina or he'd have been exposed a long time ago.

Thirdly, a fair chin. I say fair because he can be knocked out. Just you watch. Kessler wobbled and punished him for his recklessness. Direll also wobbled him with a shot he didn't see because of his lack of defence. Taylor dropped him too.

By and large though, he takes big shots well. When he doesn't see them though, which is often due to being so wild, he is vulnerable.

Anyway, rant over but the reason this guy get's to me so much is that his ego is out of control. Pure delusion. I've never seen anything like it...Hatton, Audley and Calzaghe have nothing on this guy!

No doubt some of you will stick up for old Frochy, but please, tell me honestly what it is about this guy that is going over my head apart from the fact his recklessness leads to tons of leather being smashed upon his stupid his face? (Which is fairly entertaining, yes)

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Right then so when will you be challenging him? seriousely a lot of people on these forums talk about boxers that are actually doing things like they could hold a candle to them in the ring when blatantly if they could they wouldnt be on a forum winding themselves up through jelousy and blurting out a load of bollocks like they can actually box themselves, if its so easy get yourself forward. Honestly though i apologise because its so much harder to sit behind a computer and pull apart someones so called ''piss poor'' performance than it is to go out there and achieve somthing yourself isnt it, who are you again?

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in all fairness mate,most of us no this, no where not world class boxers, but this is a boxing forum, thats what where supposed to talk about. i understand where ur coming from tho.me personally i try not too hate on any fighter, because ive boxed as an amateur and i no how hard the sport is. i do hate it tho when i hear another person call another fighter a bum,or a piece of shit.








job biscuit (i once found a key to the gates of the emerald city. unlucky for me i found out it was not all it was cracked up to be)





job biscuit (

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I don't think it's that mate. I think it's more to do with you talking like VD's sidekick ever since you had that WWE style fued with him about a year back. You're posting style completely changed. The way VD posts works for him, because we don't know what he looks like and he's consistent and very funny with it. He also didn't start a thread in off topic asking for opinions on a necklace. :-X


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Thats peoples opinion, I cant change that but I dont take much notice.

I've said before I have to change my dialect when I post on here. I cant speak my "Scouse" language I do in real life as you wouldn't understand "Scouse" especially a lot of Americans etc. So I have to alter what I say when I post. Its true I dont speak like I type on here. If you want me to start speaking scouse I'm all for it, it would make posting so much easier but it aint worth the hassle of people asking "What does that mean ?".

In reference to VD I admit I probbably use/look for the same dialect as he does. I met him last year and were pretty cool, I dont know if that has something to do with it, who knows. But like I said, Its not my best interest to start speaking on here using Scouse dialect. Which I do in real life obviousley because I was born and raised in Liverpool. Would cause too much confusion.

You dont believe me I'll send you my mobile number. You can see how I sound in real life.

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I knew it. You're not Lefty. You're Chantelle.

Get your jugs out :cool:

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chantelle was so fit

I remember pestering her in true HTH style for a pity shag and she wasnt having any of it :mad::mad::mad:

In all honesty though shes a lovely girl and we happen to run in the same circles...very small world

PS:Any ideas as to who`s leftys evil twin???

rightylee?

Rightyron ;)

Or may be ryanman :o

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Rightyron ;)

Or may be ryanman :o

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lefty once met violent demise out in the states and VD made a pass at him one night


true story

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Rightyron ;)

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It's not Ryanman. He's intelligent and witty.

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Rightyron ;)

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It's not Ryanman. He's intelligent and witty.

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What evil twin isn't?

:detective:

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Pretty unfair. He's beaten some world class fighters, always makes fights competitive and never backs down to anybody. His style isnt great thats for sure, but its exciting and fans love watching him fight. His punch power is pretty devastating.

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Read the entire thread, Lefty. He gets credit where it's due.

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I've read the fukkin thread thank you. A lot of people say the same thing, so dont just pick my post out.

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Really? Dude, I've never been mean to you. Drop the attitude. You're no martyr.

You guys just don't like Froch because he's a white boxer!

Chris Rock Flashback: Are There Any Great White Boxers?

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That was a good one from CHris Rock.

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You guys just don't like Froch because he's a white boxer!

Chris Rock Flashback: Are There Any Great White Boxers?

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That was a good one from CHris Rock.

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It's true.;D

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Rightyron ;)

Or may be ryanman :o

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lefty once met violent demise out in the states and VD made a pass at him one night


true story

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Hth r u trying to tell us that the tough talking l.a native vd is actual a fag

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I give him credit for clawing a win out of a loss.

Froch does tend to make fights exciting being he's so goddamn flawed.

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Agreed, I've always said his level of competition already shits on Calzaghes - Nobody can knock that.

And agreed x2..He wouldn't be half as exciting to most fans if he was technically better than he is now!

I still hate his guts! ;D If he was a mute I may have given him the sympathy vote for being so bad. I'm sure he'll get over me not liking him though, with his world title on one side of the bed and his hot chick on the other :cool:

Lmao wow just got done reading the entire thread - Some of you need to stick a fuckin tampon in it and stop taking me so personally. ;)

In summary, the theme of my thread was - "Credit where it is due..But how the fuck does he do it???"

In fact, it was quite complimentary I thought ;D

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Lmao wow just got done reading the entire thread - Some of you need to stick a fuckin tampon in it and stop taking me so personally. ;)

In summary, the theme of my thread was - "Credit where it is due..But how the fuck does he do it???"

In fact, it was quite complimentary I thought ;D

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The intelligent ones got it.;);D

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No-one that is apparently friends with Larry Olubamiwo could have posted that.

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oOoOo Meeeeow! :rolleyes:

Here's the difference Fenster. Listen to Larry's post-fight interview at 7:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDtZX...eature=related

All of his interviews are like this. Humble, down to earth and recognises his limitations.

He has also gone to the Wildcard and has trained with Freddie Roach to improve his game.

See the difference? One is a twat with yes men around him who aren't brave enough to tell him he's shit and needs to tighten up his game - One is a man who doesn't need telling and recognises his limitations himself and does something about them.

Guess which one Froch is? Delusion is something I really can not stand. Makes me think "Do you not have any real friends who can be honest with you?"

Froch reminds me of those twats who turn up for X Factor or American Idol and are awful but when Simon says "Listen, you're really bad". They turn around and say, "What do you mean? No I'm not!!! Everyone says I'm the next Whitney Houston!!!"

That's Froch ;) Except he won a world title...strange

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Thats peoples opinion, I cant change that but I dont take much notice.

I've said before I have to change my dialect when I post on here. I cant speak my "Scouse" language I do in real life as you wouldn't understand "Scouse" especially a lot of Americans etc. So I have to alter what I say when I post. Its true I dont speak like I type on here. If you want me to start speaking scouse I'm all for it, it would make posting so much easier but it aint worth the hassle of people asking "What does that mean ?".

In reference to VD I admit I probbably use/look for the same dialect as he does. I met him last year and were pretty cool, I dont know if that has something to do with it, who knows. But like I said, Its not my best interest to start speaking on here using Scouse dialect. Which I do in real life obviousley because I was born and raised in Liverpool. Would cause too much confusion.

You dont believe me I'll send you my mobile number. You can see how I sound in real life.

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I knew it. You're not Lefty. You're Chantelle.

Get your jugs out :cool:

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chantelle was so fit

I remember pestering her in true HTH style for a pity shag and she wasnt having any of it :mad::mad::mad:

In all honesty though shes a lovely girl and we happen to run in the same circles...very small world

PS:Any ideas as to who`s leftys evil twin???

rightylee?

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Chantelle was fukking awesome. I've got her on facebook. No doubt shes the real deal, some of her pics are saucy as fukk.

And Righty Ryan was due to make an appearance on this forum, I'm pretty sure it will happen one day.

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Rightyron ;)

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WTF!!
What did I do to deserve that? I'm going to kill you. Seriously. I've killed people on here before. Ask Jaz.

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Rightyron ;)

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It's not Ryanman. He's intelligent and witty.

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Ah thanks ono. I could say the same about you. (But i'll do it in private so I don't look so gay).

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No-one that is apparently friends with Larry Olubamiwo could have posted that.

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oOoOo Meeeeow! :rolleyes:

Here's the difference Fenster. Listen to Larry's post-fight interview at 7:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDtZX...eature=related

All of his interviews are like this. Humble, down to earth and recognises his limitations.

He has also gone to the Wildcard and has trained with Freddie Roach to improve his game.

See the difference? One is a twat with yes men around him who aren't brave enough to tell him he's shit and needs to tighten up his game - One is a man who doesn't need telling and recognises his limitations himself and does something about them.

Guess which one Froch is? Delusion is something I really can not stand. Makes me think "Do you not have any real friends who can be honest with you?"

Froch reminds me of those twats who turn up for X Factor or American Idol and are awful but when Simon says "Listen, you're really bad". They turn around and say, "What do you mean? No I'm not!!! Everyone says I'm the next Whitney Houston!!!"

That's Froch ;) Except he won a world title...strange

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Larry is a good boxer because he's humble, Froch is crap because he's mouthy? That's bascially all you've got.

Otherwise you are saying Froch is an amazing human being? Because if he is that crap, if his boxing skills are that bad, then just how did he become a world-class fighter?

With all the best intentions and best coaches in the world will Larry ever achieve close to what FRoch has? It takes more than just good boxing technique to make a class fighter. It takes more than simply being a nice guy.

Froch's self-belief is his probably his greatest attribute.

I find it very hypocritical that you know low-class boxers yet slag off world-class ones (not just Froch). I'd be very surprised if a hard-working humble guy like Larry, or the majority of your gym pals, shared your view.