Re: The new home for the political stuff in the Cotto-Foreman thread is here
I think the flotilla business gave me a funny turn. I was frothing at the mouth and raging like a mad one for a bit. I've calmed down now, it's all out of my system. I think I just needed to get all the bile out and Yuri Foreman became the unfortunate target. He has really done nothing wrong.
Re: The new home for the political stuff in the Cotto-Foreman thread is here
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miles
I think the flotilla business gave me a funny turn. I was frothing at the mouth and raging like a mad one for a bit. I've calmed down now, it's all out of my system. I think I just needed to get all the bile out and Yuri Foreman became the unfortunate target. He has really done nothing wrong.
Has your stance on the flotilla as a purely humatarian aid convoy changed in the light of what we know now?
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miles
I think the flotilla business gave me a funny turn. I was frothing at the mouth and raging like a mad one for a bit. I've calmed down now, it's all out of my system. I think I just needed to get all the bile out and Yuri Foreman became the unfortunate target. He has really done nothing wrong.
Has your stance on the flotilla as a purely humatarian aid convoy changed in the light of what we know now?
I haven't watched the video you posted yet, but will do so. I must point out before watching it that I don't regard Fox as a credible news service nor Glenn Beck as a credible journalist, but I will watch it and give my views tomorrow. I'm definitely staying off of the topic for today though.
Re: The new home for the political stuff in the Cotto-Foreman thread is here
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No racism isn't cool and I know that. A week ago I didn't really care who won this fight and now I have someone to root for. It's as simple as that, you need to support someone in a fight. Foreman might well be a nice guy, but so is Cotto and he isn't training to be a rabbi. Cotto wins.
I am sure you are aware of this, but disliking Israeli politics and disliking Jews are two entirely different things. The statement about not liking Foreman because he is training to become a rabbi falls under the latter category. What if he was training to become a Rabbi in the US or the UK and has nothing to do with Israel?
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miles
I think the flotilla business gave me a funny turn. I was frothing at the mouth and raging like a mad one for a bit. I've calmed down now, it's all out of my system. I think I just needed to get all the bile out and Yuri Foreman became the unfortunate target. He has really done nothing wrong.
Has your stance on the flotilla as a purely humatarian aid convoy changed in the light of what we know now?
I haven't watched the video you posted yet, but will do so. I must point out before watching it that I don't regard Fox as a credible news service nor Glenn Beck as a credible journalist, but I will watch it and give my views tomorrow. I'm definitely staying off of the topic for today though.
haha fair enough, Mr Beck is not an easy man to like. Peter Hitchens blog on the mail is good as is Melanie Phillips in the Spectator.
There are tons of videos online showing the true nature of those on board, for example this clip. Do these look like peaceful humanitarians to you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMmDf...eature=related
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Another video of them attacking the commandos before they boarded,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlxdJC6KGgk&feature=related
And this one taken from security cameras on the boat itself shows them arming themselves prior to the 'battle'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZlSSaPT_OU
There is most definitely an outrage here, but just not in the way that you realise.
The whole convey was funded by terrorist organisations. There were known terrorists on the passenger list. If you really look into it you'll see the truth behind what is going on is not remotely how you imagine. The news coverage has generally been shocking imo.
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miles
No racism isn't cool and I know that. A week ago I didn't really care who won this fight and now I have someone to root for. It's as simple as that, you need to support someone in a fight. Foreman might well be a nice guy, but so is Cotto and he isn't training to be a rabbi. Cotto wins.
I am sure you are aware of this, but disliking Israeli politics and disliking Jews are two entirely different things. The statement about not liking Foreman because he is training to become a rabbi falls under the latter category. What if he was training to become a Rabbi in the US or the UK and has nothing to do with Israel?
I know and hold my hands up on the charge of being an insensitive git. I have absolutely no problem with Jews and no problem with Foreman either for that matter. I was still under the influence and raving somewhat. I am not anti-semitic, but I am quite definitely opposed to what modern Israeli party politics has come to represent. There are obvious distinctions and I shouldn't have allowed them to blur like that. I mean so what if Foreman wants to be a rabbi? Why should that concern me? Yes, very silly on my part.
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Another video of them attacking the commandos before they boarded,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlxdJC6KGgk&feature=related
And this one taken from security cameras on the boat itself shows them arming themselves prior to the 'battle'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZlSSaPT_OU
There is most definitely an outrage here, but just not in the way that you realise.
The whole convey was funded by terrorist organisations. There were known terrorists on the passenger list. If you really look into it you'll see the truth behind what is going on is not remotely how you imagine. The news coverage has generally been shocking imo.
Shit, that's not good if what you say is accurate. I will definitely pay attention and watch everything tomorrow. I'm going to go out for a late evening game of badminton under the floodlights and then go for a quiet brew. No mad evening posting from me today! :p
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ha that's what you need more of mate, a nice cup of tea and a sit down ;D
Your irritation levels have increased I think ever since the Barrera headbutt and loss to Amir Khan. Since then you've been on a downward spiral, let's hope a pleasant game of badminton can help relieve some of the stress.
You should take up yoga or something, maybe grow a plant :p
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ha that's what you need more of mate, a nice cup of tea and a sit down ;D
Your irritation levels have increased I think ever since the Barrera headbutt and loss to Amir Khan. Since then you've been on a downward spiral, let's hope a pleasant game of badminton can help relieve some of the stress.
You should take up yoga or something, maybe grow a plant :p
Tea is gay
Re: The new home for the political stuff in the Cotto-Foreman thread is here
I'm not even sure what were arguing about anymore, the Israelis did exactly what the leaders of the flotilla wanted them to do, the Israelis never miss a chance to look bad.
But still that doesn't change the general questions about their policy decisions, is the blockade defensible, etc, etc.
I don't give a fuck about this fight. FWIW. I wouldn't watch it if it was the main event of Wednesday Night Fights.
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Politics should not come into this or any other fight.
