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kissing up? are you seriously that stupid? lol i'm the one that's dubbed the "biggest pac hater" on here cause i rarely give him credit (or cause i don't bend over and kiss his toes), difference between me and you, i don't kiss a dude's ass cause of his nationality like you do, and boy don't even try to play the race card cause you know damned well i'll blast you out on that one ;), so mira ver si te callas un poquito porque el unico mamon aqui eres tu haga como le dije a Taeth y mira ver si sacas el bicho de Margarito de tu boca ;)
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the only reason why donaire has looked so dominant in his last two fights is because he's fighting nothing but minimums! when is this guy ever going to grow some huevos and fight someone who would give him a real fight? can't believe this cat is number 4 p4p in ring magazine but that just goes to show Ring magazine is "corrupt" like all the other organizations.
Didn't he fight Concepcion who was 4.5 lbs over the limit at the weigh-in? Know your own shitt first before you troll around dumbfukk.
He also fought Vargas who was 2 weight classes below. And Marquez who was coming off a loss
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milmascaras1
the only reason why donaire has looked so dominant in his last two fights is because he's fighting nothing but minimums! when is this guy ever going to grow some huevos and fight someone who would give him a real fight? can't believe this cat is number 4 p4p in ring magazine but that just goes to show Ring magazine is "corrupt" like all the other organizations.
Didn't he fight Concepcion who was 4.5 lbs over the limit at the weigh-in? Know your own shitt first before you troll around dumbfukk.
He also fought Vargas who was 2 weight classes below. And Marquez who was coming off a loss
see there i agree with you, the only 2 acceptable semi-decent opponents Donaire has taken on since Darchinyan were Maldonado and Concepcion, aside from that he's been doing jack shit
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Violent Demise
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Pacstraightleft
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milmascaras1
the only reason why donaire has looked so dominant in his last two fights is because he's fighting nothing but minimums! when is this guy ever going to grow some huevos and fight someone who would give him a real fight? can't believe this cat is number 4 p4p in ring magazine but that just goes to show Ring magazine is "corrupt" like all the other organizations.
Didn't he fight Concepcion who was 4.5 lbs over the limit at the weigh-in? Know your own shitt first before you troll around dumbfukk.
He also fought Vargas who was 2 weight classes below. And Marquez who was coming off a loss
That's because Vargas was a last minute sub. Donaire's original opponent backed out because of an eye injury. If you look at Donaire's fight history, he fought more bigger guys than Montiel. So it's weird how you guys criticize him fighting smaller opponents like it's his fault.
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pacs,
so you say donaire has fought bigger guys than montiel? lol...do you know how tall montiel is? donaire is going to have about 4-5 inches on him. again, picking on much shorter fighters just goes to show you that donaire likes to cherrypick his opponents. but against montiel, he's going to get a little surprise!
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Montiel is an exceptionally underrated fighter.The man is p4p material and is on a clear tear of momentum.He's retained his top notch speed at Bantam and glad Morel fell through after all.Donaire was peak and prime off Darchinnyone victory but then again so was Joseph Agbeko.He has stymied a bit in challenge faced and while I like his ability I think Montiel too deep for him in this one.
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Its funny, Donaire has done nothing?....
:lolhaha: Donaire been climbing up the p4p rankings all along. Thats a BIG something ;)
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Its funny, Donaire has done nothing?....
:lolhaha: Donaire been climbing up the p4p rankings all along. Thats a BIG something ;)
yea by fighting nobodies :-\
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I dunno but Montiel had been a bad night showing with the former 115lb contender Z Gorres for real.. Donaire is far more different from Z and a southpaw, and he has more timing then Z.
Donaire could be monster between 112-115 but still i cant be sure at 118.
Well Darchinyan was the man then when Nonito give him first loss at 112 title and that was last best opposition he got, Right now Montiel wants Darchinyan although he holds 115 title, now he's is fighting at 118 same weight class with Montiel.
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Sounds like Montiel is about to become my favourite fighter.
It will be great when he destroys Donaire inside 6 rounds and sends him from his lofty (and completely undeserved) top 5 p4p perch into total obscurity the way that Darchinyan did to that other ridiculous hype job Christian Mijares.
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Bilbs, Nonito has height / reach advantage and he aint never been drop he's whole career. You expect Montiel to take him out in 6? Did you see Montiel vs Valdez, just a few fights ago? Valdez had a lot of success and he made Montiel turn away from a scrap.
I know you're not big on him but Nonito is foreal unlike Mijares, Nonito outbox and ko'd Vic in 5. Cant really fault him for the lack of competitions, since. Shady things in boxing happens. Hopefully this fight does get made.
What would you say if nonito beats montiel? he'll have wins over both the other good fighters. He's actually just a win away from winning you're respect ;D
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Bilbs, Nonito has height / reach advantage and he aint never been drop he's whole career. You expect Montiel to take him out in 6? Did you see Montiel vs Valdez, just a few fights ago? Valdez had a lot of success and he made Montiel turn away from a scrap.
I know you're not big on him but Nonito is foreal unlike Mijares, Nonito outbox and ko'd Vic in 5. Cant really fault him for the lack of competitions, since. Shady things in boxing happens. Hopefully this fight does get made.
What would you say if nonito beats montiel? he'll have wins over both the other good fighters. He's actually just a win away from winning you're respect ;D
Sig bet him pare. Tatlong buwan.
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Sounds like Montiel is about to become my favourite fighter.
It will be great when he destroys Donaire inside 6 rounds and sends him from his lofty (and completely undeserved) top 5 p4p perch into total obscurity the way that Darchinyan did to that other ridiculous hype job Christian Mijares.
I'm reserving the name change bet for Pacquiao vs Whoever. But instead, I'd love to do a Donaire-Montiel 3 months name change bet with you. Are you game?
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Bilbs, Nonito has height / reach advantage and he aint never been drop he's whole career. You expect Montiel to take him out in 6? Did you see Montiel vs Valdez, just a few fights ago? Valdez had a lot of success and he made Montiel turn away from a scrap.
I know you're not big on him but Nonito is foreal unlike Mijares, Nonito outbox and ko'd Vic in 5. Cant really fault him for the lack of competitions, since. Shady things in boxing happens. Hopefully this fight does get made.
What would you say if nonito beats montiel? he'll have wins over both the other good fighters. He's actually just a win away from winning you're respect ;D
That's cuz aside from Darchinyan he's never faced anybody capable of beating him. It's moronic to call Donaire for real when all he has is one good win on his resume. And that's not debatable.
Montiel has done way more than Donaire. He's just the better fighter. His record proves it. His 5 best wins are against Hozumi Hasegawa, Martin Castillo, Ivan Hernandez, Pedro Alcazar and Luis Melendez. Donaire top 5 are Vic Darchinyan, Raul Martinez, Moruti Mthalane, Luis Maldonado and Rafael Concepcion. There is no comparison. 2 of Donaire's top 5 (not in Montiel's top) were destroyed in more impressive fashion by Montiel
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Thats a case of resume vs who would win.
I agree Montiel has the better resume but Donaire will beat his ass ;)
Just like Vic has the better resume but Donaire whoops his ass :cool:
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Julius Rain
Thats a case of resume vs who would win.
I agree Montiel has the better resume but Donaire will beat his ass ;)
Just like Vic has the better resume but Donaire whoops his ass :cool:
Montiel already beat Hasegawa. Who's a much better fighter than Donaire. Nonito might take the first couple of rounds/ But that's be design. Montiel will bide his time and than proceed to punish Donaire. I don't think he'll stop him. But that's cuz I think Donaire will quit before he gets KO'ed. That is if he even takes the fight
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Julius Rain
Thats a case of resume vs who would win.
I agree Montiel has the better resume but Donaire will beat his ass ;)
Just like Vic has the better resume but Donaire whoops his ass :cool:
Montiel already beat Hasegawa. Who's a much better fighter than Donaire. Nonito might take the first couple of rounds/ But that's be design. Montiel will bide his time and than proceed to punish Donaire. I don't think he'll stop him. But that's cuz I think Donaire will quit before he gets KO'ed. That is if he even takes the fight
;D Actually Montiel will quit just like how he wanted out of the Valdez fight ;D
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i think nonito donaire is a very dangerous and skilled fighter but so is fernando montiel. anyone who thinks montiel will be an easy fight for donaire is obviously very delusional. but there is always the possibility that donaire's height and reach could affect montiel who stands at only 5'4". still, montiel is red hot right now and will put up a very spirited fight.
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Violent Demise
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Julius Rain
Thats a case of resume vs who would win.
I agree Montiel has the better resume but Donaire will beat his ass ;)
Just like Vic has the better resume but Donaire whoops his ass :cool:
Montiel already beat Hasegawa. Who's a much better fighter than Donaire. Nonito might take the first couple of rounds/ But that's be design. Montiel will bide his time and than proceed to punish Donaire. I don't think he'll stop him. But that's cuz I think Donaire will quit before he gets KO'ed. That is if he even takes the fight
;D Actually Montiel will quit just like how he wanted out of the Valdez fight ;D
well he rebounded quite nicely from that fight (which he was fighting with a nasty gash over his eye) and then KO'd Hasegawa and he went over to Japan to do so, his destruction of Concepcion pretty much shows that the Valdez fight was a off night nothing else
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Violent Demise
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Julius Rain
Thats a case of resume vs who would win.
I agree Montiel has the better resume but Donaire will beat his ass ;)
Just like Vic has the better resume but Donaire whoops his ass :cool:
Montiel already beat Hasegawa. Who's a much better fighter than Donaire. Nonito might take the first couple of rounds/ But that's be design. Montiel will bide his time and than proceed to punish Donaire. I don't think he'll stop him. But that's cuz I think Donaire will quit before he gets KO'ed. That is if he even takes the fight
;D Actually Montiel will quit just like how he wanted out of the Valdez fight ;D
You never saw the fight did you? Go watch it. Than come talk to me. He can be clearly heard saying he wants to continue.
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Donaire has been a major disappointment. He has all world top p4p skills, but there always seems like his name is mentioned with whoever is hot below the 126 division. There's a saying, "Shit or get off the pot."
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Originally Posted by
Julius Rain
Thats a case of resume vs who would win.
I agree Montiel has the better resume but Donaire will beat his ass ;)
Just like Vic has the better resume but Donaire whoops his ass :cool:
Montiel already beat Hasegawa. Who's a much better fighter than Donaire. Nonito might take the first couple of rounds/ But that's be design. Montiel will bide his time and than proceed to punish Donaire. I don't think he'll stop him. But that's cuz I think Donaire will quit before he gets KO'ed.
That is if he even takes the fight
i hope he does, i don't want montiel to be like the rest who avoided donaire.
;D
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Violent Demise
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Julius Rain
Thats a case of resume vs who would win.
I agree Montiel has the better resume but Donaire will beat his ass ;)
Just like Vic has the better resume but Donaire whoops his ass :cool:
Montiel already beat Hasegawa. Who's a much better fighter than Donaire. Nonito might take the first couple of rounds/ But that's be design. Montiel will bide his time and than proceed to punish Donaire. I don't think he'll stop him. But that's cuz I think Donaire will quit before he gets KO'ed.
That is if he even takes the fight
i hope he does, i don't want montiel to be like the rest who avoided donaire.
;D
Montiel isn't the one who's been AVOIDING tough competition like Donaire has ;);D
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That settles the "avoidance" issue on his part. I hope Montiel will do similar thing.
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Violent Demise
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Julius Rain
Thats a case of resume vs who would win.
I agree Montiel has the better resume but Donaire will beat his ass ;)
Just like Vic has the better resume but Donaire whoops his ass :cool:
Montiel already beat Hasegawa. Who's a much better fighter than Donaire. Nonito might take the first couple of rounds/ But that's be design. Montiel will bide his time and than proceed to punish Donaire. I don't think he'll stop him. But that's cuz I think Donaire will quit before he gets KO'ed.
That is if he even takes the fight
i hope he does, i don't want montiel to be like the rest who avoided donaire.
;D
Montiel isn't the one who's been AVOIDING tough competition like Donaire has ;);D
well montiel is a bigger name and it seems competition aren't afraid of him as much as they are of donaire. lol
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all this talk of montiel avoiding donaire is pure bullshit! montiel has NEVER avoided anyone. even went to japan to kick hasegawa's ass! think donaire would have done that? hell no! listen, donaire has all the ability in the world but the dude is a fucking prima donna. can anybody tell me what significant win he has since he beat darchinyan? i'm beginning to think he just might be a one hit wonder. did it ever occur to donaire's fans that the reason he doesn't get these tough fights is because maybe he doesn't sign on the dotted lines and then goes around saying this and that to save himself face. i mean, the way this cat sees it, EVERYONE is afraid of his ass. he's starting to wear thin on me and other boxing fans who want to see just how good he is. against montiel, he'll find out soon enough!
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all this talk of montiel avoiding donaire is pure bullshit! montiel has NEVER avoided anyone. even went to japan to kick hasegawa's ass! think donaire would have done that? hell no! listen, donaire has all the ability in the world but the dude is a fucking prima donna. can anybody tell me what significant win he has since he beat darchinyan? i'm beginning to think he just might be a one hit wonder. did it ever occur to donaire's fans that the reason he doesn't get these tough fights is because maybe he doesn't sign on the dotted lines and then goes around saying this and that to save himself face. i mean, the way this cat sees it, EVERYONE is afraid of his ass. he's starting to wear thin on me and other boxing fans who want to see just how good he is. against montiel, he'll find out soon enough!
Donaire called out top Jap fighters including Hasegawa about a year ago. They don't wanna fight him. It's not that they're scared of him. Reason being is Japan is unwilling to recognize IBF, WBO and IBO as legitimate world titles.
That my friend is a FACT. ;)
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Donaire has been a major disappointment. He has all world top p4p skills, but there always seems like his name is mentioned with whoever is hot below the 126 division. There's a saying, "Shit or get off the pot."
This is totally correct. I like Donaire, but Donaire needs a quality win more than anyone in boxing. Donaire makes Berto look like he takes on all challengers. He is ranked high on the idea that he is highly skilled, but he only has one good win. Sidorenko is good a start. Montiel is even better.
This is a great Mexican v. Philipino debate. Y'all definitely stand by your fighters. I'll split the baby: Mares beats Vic by decision, avenges his draw agains Yonnhy (Yonnhy beats Agbeko), and then beats the winner of Donaire/Montiel. How's them apples? :cool:
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PSL,
sure, anyone can throw names out of their big mouths but until his promoters get in contact with other promoters, opening your mouth means nothing. i will guarantee you one thing, and i can back it up with donaire's recent history, donaire would never had taken on a very elite tough guy like hasegawa in japan. g-u-a-r-a-n-t-e-e you that! instead, donaire has taken the easy highway or (low highway) by fighting little minimumweights and jr. flyweights who look like little kids compared to him. that my friend does not strike me as someone who would call out, at the time, the baddest bantamweight (hasegawa). you know, you pacquiao and donaire fans love to throw out words like ducking, scared, etc...but until you start educating yourselves on other boxers, who are not named pacquiao and donaire, maybe, just maybe you can become credible fans of this great sport.
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PSL,
besides, i wouldn't go around inducting donaire into boxings HOF just quite yet! the kid hasn't proven anything except being a one hit wonder thus far. and especially in the rafael concepcion fight, which donaire was at times literally running for his life from the guy, montiel absolutely, positively destroyed concepcion in less than 3 very one sided rounds. but i will give donaire mad credit if he can find a pair of man plums big enough to get into the ring with montiel. ;)
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milmascaras1
PSL,
sure, anyone can throw names out of their big mouths but until his promoters get in contact with other promoters, opening your mouth means nothing. i will guarantee you one thing, and i can back it up with donaire's recent history, donaire would never had taken on a very elite tough guy like hasegawa in japan. g-u-a-r-a-n-t-e-e you that! instead, donaire has taken the easy highway or (low highway) by fighting little minimumweights and jr. flyweights who look like little kids compared to him. that my friend does not strike me as someone who would call out, at the time, the baddest bantamweight (hasegawa). you know, you pacquiao and donaire fans love to throw out words like ducking, scared, etc...but until you start educating yourselves on other boxers, who are not named pacquiao and donaire, maybe, just maybe you can become credible fans of this great sport.
It's easy to say "I guarantee". But how can you back up your guarantee when you didn't have any slightest idea why Hasegawa or any Jap fighters didn't wanna fight Donaire? Darchinyan was more popular feared fighter than Hasegawa was when Donaire fought him. Just like I said in other thread... I don't think anybody is scared of no one. Ducking is not (no longer) an issue.
Oh yeah. You're a boxing genius. You didn't even know who are the "four horsemen". Lol. You've almost convinced me that Hearns is in HOF already. :11fb8:Pfft!.. I checked it out.. I was right, you were wrong.
You're still a forum troll buddy.
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PSL,
what? you didn't know thomas hearns was in the HOF? talk about ignorant! :o FYI, einstein, all members of the "four horsemen" are in the HOF. and yes, ignoramous, i DID know duran, leonard, hearns and hagler were called the four horsemen. i thought your kababayan called the four pinoy fighters (penalosa bros., navarrete and espinosa) the four horsemen as well. got that, pendejo?
and another thing, you're telling me that darchinyan is a better fighter than hasegawa? are you high or what? donaire IS a one hit wonder until he proves he can and will fight better opposition. until then, he'll be known as a wasted talent only willing to fight minimumweights! from now on i'm going to refer to nonito as Nonito "minimumweight king of the world" Donaire, because thus far, he's nothing but a FRAUD! can you spell that, pendejo?
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To get back on topic, I would favor Montiel, albeit slightly in this fight, he's the more proven commodity at this weight, so i'll put it at around 55-45 for Montiel, however Donaire does have all world skills, no one can deny that, the mystery is will it translate to the 118 dvision, remember although it's only 3 pounds, that is considered to be a big deal for the lower weight divisions.
And Donaire needs this fight more so than Montiel, after his sensational ko of Darchinyan, Donaire has been a massive disappointment for not getting fights done. That falls on the fighter more so than the promoter imo.
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milmascaras1
PSL,
what? you didn't know thomas hearns was in the HOF? talk about ignorant! :o FYI, einstein, all members of the "four horsemen" are in the HOF. and yes, ignoramous, i DID know duran, leonard, hearns and hagler were called the four horsemen. i thought your kababayan called the four pinoy fighters (penalosa bros., navarrete and espinosa) the four horsemen as well. got that, pendejo?
and another thing, you're telling me that darchinyan is a better fighter than hasegawa? are you high or what? donaire IS a one hit wonder until he proves he can and will fight better opposition. until then, he'll be known as a wasted talent only willing to fight minimumweights! from now on i'm going to refer to nonito as Nonito "minimumweight king of the world" Donaire, because thus far, he's nothing but a FRAUD! can you spell that, pendejo?
Modern I don't see Hearns in that list. Where's your proof?
And don't lie. You didn't know who the four horsemen are... http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...le-tape-3.html I educated you with a couple of boxing lessons. You should appreciate that puneta.
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PSL,
lol...hey pendejo, the reason hearns is not in the HOF yet is because he hasn't been officially retired for a minimum of five years. his last fight was in 2006. not only will he be a HOFer, but a first ballot HOFer at that. and the only "puneta" is a big hole between your shaved girlie-man legs. putang ina mo! lol
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milmascaras1
PSL,
lol...hey pendejo, the reason hearns is not in the HOF yet is because he hasn't been officially retired for a minimum of five years. his last fight was in 2006. not only will he be a HOFer, but a first ballot HOFer at that. and the only "puneta" is a big hole between your shaved girlie-man legs. putang ina mo! lol
:lol::owned::pointsnew:
Read what you wrote. You said "all members of the four horsemen are in the HOF".
You are contradicting your own shit. You know you got owned and you're desperately trying weasle out of it.
No doubt he's going to be in HOF. I'm not arguing that gago.. tanga!
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hoy, hijo di puta, you were the one insinuating that he (hearns) wouldn't get in (HOF). goes to show what a complete idiota, ignorant, no nothing about boxing, little weenie you are! ;):o
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milmascaras1
hoy, hijo di puta, you were the one insinuating that he (hearns) wouldn't get in (HOF). goes to show what a complete idiota, ignorant, no nothing about boxing, little weenie you are! ;):o
Insinuate my ass. If you make shit up like that, make sure it aint obvious.
You are worthless. You are weak. You are NOT in my level boy.
