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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
...there's always a case for the guy but Johnson just never gets these to go his way
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
6-5 Cloud, but his stamina is looking pretty suspect IMO.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
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Originally Posted by
Mar
...there's always a case for the guy but Johnson just never gets these to go his way
He's losing it in the championship rounds here, but he gave a great account of himself. His corner's 100% right, he's not going to win a decision here.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
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Originally Posted by
Mar
...there's always a case for the guy but Johnson just never gets these to go his way
Think his reputation proceeds him,tough as nails,but I see the gap widening...Cloud just moves him,dictates exchanges
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
Win or lose I'd hate to see Johnson do this much longer.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
Cloud isn't looking like much of a closer really. He doesn't seem to have late fight gas to close the show, like he gave his all in the 11th or something.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
6-6. Cloud made that last round close though, I'm tempted to score it 10-10...
Johnson took a lot of punishment tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if it had some long-term effect.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
Awesome fight...got Cloud up on activity,impact.This is one I cannot see for Johnson...and I love the dude
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
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Originally Posted by
Myk_Myk
Win or lose I'd hate to see Johnson do this much longer.
Agreed.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
My card is the same as Ledderman's (assuming they split the first two).
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
is it me or does Tavaris look like he didn't think he won? he looks thankful. But it was a close fight so either way. But I don't see Cloud being a threat to Dawson or Pascal.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
8-4 seems a bit wide to me. I could see 115-113, but all of them having the same card is odd.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
kotelnik should have ZERO chance tonight
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
Ahh now Cloud does his best Lil John interview ;D
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LOL
glen johnson gives this speech after EVERY SINGLE FIGHT
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
Why do I think they are gonna have a rematch...
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
Any time a fighter thanks God I immediately start wanting to see them get knocked out.
Johnson not exactly classy in defeat here...
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
I had it 115-113 for cloud, damn johnson gets beat by the odd round every single time
PS:Is cloud a redneck.....sounds like ali when he talks, lol
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
Come on Champ....take the loss.This one was merited.Hate seeing this frankly
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
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Originally Posted by
Majesty
Why do I think they are gonna have a rematch...
Johnson gets knocked out in a rematch.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
dawson vs cloud would be awesome
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Come on Champ....take the lose.This one was merited.Hate seeing this frankly
Me too. I thought it should have been a draw, but if anyone deserved to win it it was Cloud. He was far classier as well, Johnson should give Cloud some credit here...
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lol @ kellerman having to pretend pascall has a chance cuz its on HBO
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
Dawson would take Cloud to school. Pascalv Cloud would be a better fight.
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
Dawson would take Cloud to school. Pascalv Cloud would be a better fight.
I agree. The only thing that makes the outcome doubtful at all is Dawson's chin. It would be an interesting fight though.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
Ok so here's another hard upbringing story before the fight.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
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CFH
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Come on Champ....take the lose.This one was merited.Hate seeing this frankly
Me too. I thought it should have been a draw, but if anyone deserved to win it it was Cloud. He was far classier as well, Johnson should give Cloud some credit here...
Totally agreed. Cloud needs work but he earned that W. He didnt need judges who robbed Johnson in past
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
since when is St. Louis "notorious for drugs, gangs, and murder"? Almost everything I've heard about the city has been positive.
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I liked Letterman's card, but I guess at least 10 and maybe 12 could have gone Cloud's way, because he did land the harder if fewer punches.
What BS, having the fighters debate each other about who won, on mic right after the fight. Please HBO, don't do that anymore!
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18 years for armed robbery? Holy shit.
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Alexanders brother wat a dumb mother fucker, what a waste of a life.
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I had it 115-113 for Johnson but I wouldn't argue with a draw.
116-112 across the board for Cloud was bullshit.
He did hurt Johnson early and landed some big shots, but he took many rounds off and was very inconsistent.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
horrible feeling this fight is gonna end in controversy
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Originally Posted by
Myk_Myk
I liked Letterman's card, but I guess at least 10 and maybe 12 could have gone Cloud's way, because he did land the harder if fewer punches.
What BS, having the fighters debate each other about who won, on mic right after the fight. Please HBO, don't do that anymore!
I agree. That was fucking awkward and completely bush-league.
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CFH
since when is St. Louis "notorious for drugs, gangs, and murder"? Almost everything I've heard about the city has been positive.
Whenever there's a young black boxer on the upcoming that seems to be all of their backstories. "I came up hard, boxing kept me out of prison, i came from a broken home" its usually always the same story over and over again.
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Originally Posted by
HattonTheHammer
horrible feeling this fight is gonna end in controversy
If this fight is anywhere near close then Alexander is not the fighter I thought he was.
Seems like he's trying to rival Bradley for the best porn-stache' in boxing too.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
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Majesty
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Originally Posted by
CFH
since when is St. Louis "notorious for drugs, gangs, and murder"? Almost everything I've heard about the city has been positive.
Whenever there's a young black boxer on the upcoming that seems to be all of their backstories. "I came up hard, boxing kept me out of prison, i came from a broken home" its usually always the same story over and over again.
I have no doubt that there are a lot of black people who have it really tough in St. Louis (like a lot of black people do throughout the States), but I just don't think of St. Louis as a place which is "notorious for drugs, gangs, and murder".
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
And Kotelnik comes out to Smooth Criminal. Alexander will probably come out to some unable to understand rapper.
*edit* Correction, its Ludacris.
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Re: Cloud-Johnson/Alexander - Kotelnik
I know the bottom line is supposed to be that the right decision is the best decision, but I'm glad Cloud got the nod. He's the one with something to gain from this tough bout. Hopefully he'll soak in some lessons from tonight. I can't imagine anything but more taken out of the tank for Johnson.