Re: Haye's version of why klitschko fight didn't happen
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I've already said what I think of Haye and his reluctance of fighting any Klit.
BTW, I also found it funny that the same people blasting Pacquiao for not making the fight with Mayweather are the same ones vigorously defending Haye not to make a fight with the Klits coming up with every excuse in the book.
Carry on.
I blasted pac for ducking a drug test. To my knowledge haye has not point blank been offered a drug test and refused. if he did do that you can bet your ass I'd be giving him as much shit.
I don't defend haye because as far as I'm concerned there is nothing to defend (at this moment in time).
But as I've always said you can't slam a fighter for fighting substandard opposition and then cheer on a guy who does exactly the same thing.
My point is there is no good guy and bad guy here.
Although that said marketing haye as the loud mouth bad guy and the klits as good guys is going to be good for business all round.
Now you're just dwelling on the semantics when you're mentioning the tests. Pacquiao was 1 guy you've criticized for not fighting Mayweather and another is Amir Khan. Yet on the other hand you've defended Haye tooth and nail for pulling this stunt. Didn't you call Khan a fraud and coward for not fighting the best 140 pound fighters? But on the other hand you're the first guy to step into these kinds of threads to defend Haye for not fighting the Klits.
How about a little bit more consistency? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
No I've not defended haye. I just haven't lambasted him.
And it's not semantics at all. theres a whole world of difference between
'i'll fight you if/when the money is right'
and
'i'll only fight you if I don't have to have a steroid test so I can carry on cheating'
Haye's never turned down the klit fight because he wasn't allowed an nfair advantage in the ring.
The only common ground here is one of the fighters in question wasn't allowed by his opponant to have an unfair advantage in the ring or round the negotiating table. And you're pissed about that!?
I'm for an even playing field and a fair transparent sport. Obviously these are things that you find distastful. I don't think that's something to be proud of.
KHAN ISSUE
Yes I did. Like I said earlier theres no difference between fighting valuev, ruiz and barrett and fighting peter, arreola, briggs, tua, sosnowski, johnson, chagaev, povetkin, chambers, meehan or any other bum.
Haye didn't get KO'ed avoid a rematch and instead fight some bum for a title and instead of taking legit opposition or giving a rematch to his conquorer he looked for the easiest fights possible against non punchers.
Haye beat the legit WBA champ and then went to the negotiating table with the Klits. In my view thats a big difference. But you're going to ignore that.
From media reports Pacquiao has accepted the Mayweather deal even supposedly up to the day of the fight on drug tests, so it's a moot point to say he doesn't want to get tested. And by the way it's a straw man argument to say I condone drug cheating in boxing.
On Khan, you can't talk shit on fighters not fighting the best and then defend Haye for doing the same thing. Sure Khan didn't rematch the guy who ko him but neither has Haye. Like I've said, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Haye is doing the same shit that Khan has, you know avoiding the top guys of his division that can beat him and taking gimme fights.
And Haye, he talked shit constantly about the Klits for 2 years. It's time to step up already.
i think you need to re read my post you replied to.
Re: Haye's version of why klitschko fight didn't happen
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I had to stop at the point where he invoked Ruiz as validation :lolhaha: Literally spooked the dog I laughed so loud . I'm thinking he was out having some drinks,had a discussion and heard some critacism...then popped in the suv and did some damage control as he knows the announcement of next opponent will draw some " :tumbleweed: " What a flipping daytime diva he is. In no position to make demands on established champions....put your pomp-pride in your pocket...secure the fight...shut mouth then throw fists...prove your point. Done!
If only boxing was that simple
Which is why boxing loses fans by the droves every single day. Tell me... why can't boxing BE that simple? It would have more fans... (correction: knowledgeable fans) if it were. You see, THAT'S why I don't give a rat's ass about PPV numbers and about how many millions so-and-so makes or who make more money than who. Precisely because of this type of bullshit. Haye's defenders say that it's not the right time ($$$) for Haye to fight Klitschko now. I say that's a crock. What is Haye waiting for... for Wlad to get old? get injured? lose? What possible plausible explanation can there be for Haye to NOT be seeking a fight with Wlad right now? Sorry... maybe I don't have three PhD's to be able to understand the logistics. But it's all a crock of sh*t to me.
You know... people get respected more when they don't try to defend the undefensible.
;)
Re: Haye's version of why klitschko fight didn't happen
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I had to stop at the point where he invoked Ruiz as validation :lolhaha: Literally spooked the dog I laughed so loud . I'm thinking he was out having some drinks,had a discussion and heard some critacism...then popped in the suv and did some damage control as he knows the announcement of next opponent will draw some " :tumbleweed: " What a flipping daytime diva he is. In no position to make demands on established champions....put your pomp-pride in your pocket...secure the fight...shut mouth then throw fists...prove your point. Done!
If only boxing was that simple
Which is why boxing loses fans by the droves every single day. Tell me... why can't boxing BE that simple? It would have more fans... (correction: knowledgeable fans) if it were. You see, THAT'S why I don't give a rat's ass about PPV numbers and about how many millions so-and-so makes or who make more money than who. Precisely because of this type of bullshit. Haye's defenders say that it's not the right time ($$$) for Haye to fight Klitschko now. I say that's a crock. What is Haye waiting for... for Wlad to get old? get injured? lose? What possible plausible explanation can there be for Haye to NOT be seeking a fight with Wlad right now? Sorry... maybe I don't have three PhD's to be able to understand the logistics. But it's all a crock of sh*t to me.
You know... people get respected more when they don't try to defend the undefensible.
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i think the haye wlad/vitali fight is gettin less & less appealing now as everyone gettin pissed bored of hearing abt it, then falling thru (haye pulling out basically).
Re: Haye's version of why klitschko fight didn't happen
It's because people have finally come to my side of the argument and realized that Chicken Little has 2 chances to win a fight vs Wlad.....Slim and None.....and slim just left town ;D
The guy is 110% HYPE and if he ever decides to fight Wlad he's goign to get slaughtered...just expect it because it WILL happen
Re: Haye's version of why klitschko fight didn't happen
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It's because people have finally come to my side of the argument and realized that Chicken Little has 2 chances to win a fight vs Wlad.....Slim and None.....and slim just left town ;D
The guy is 110% HYPE and if he ever decides to fight Wlad he's goign to get slaughtered...just expect it because it WILL happen
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Re: Haye's version of why klitschko fight didn't happen
ono...it's a FACT...the sun will rise tomorrow, we'll all have taxes to pay, we'll all eventually die, and if Chicken Little EVER fights Wladimir Klitschko he'll get his ass kicked.
I'll not only put a sig bet on the line, but if Wlad doesn't KO Chicken Little I'll change my name PERMENANTLY....this means even if Wlad wins by decision I'll accept a sig bet loss and permenantly change my name. That's how sure I am that #1 Chicken Little is a little bitch and doesn't want the fight and #2 if he ever followed through with the fight Chicken Little would get KTFO....it is a FACT and right now he's just delaying the inevitable
Re: Haye's version of why klitschko fight didn't happen
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El Kabong
ono...it's a FACT...the sun will rise tomorrow, we'll all have taxes to pay, we'll all eventually die, and if Chicken Little EVER fights Wladimir Klitschko he'll get his ass kicked.
I'll not only put a sig bet on the line, but if Wlad doesn't KO Chicken Little I'll change my name PERMENANTLY....this means even if Wlad wins by decision I'll accept a sig bet loss and permenantly change my name. That's how sure I am that #1 Chicken Little is a little bitch and doesn't want the fight and #2 if he ever followed through with the fight Chicken Little would get KTFO....it is a FACT and right now he's just delaying the inevitable
You don't need to tell me, i already know what will happen. That's why he's making his money now, because it'll all be over after he fights either Klitschko. That's what i was trying to say to you the other day.
