anyone know a good vide3o i can look at that can help me with the rear hook because i cant find one
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anyone know a good vide3o i can look at that can help me with the rear hook because i cant find one
which would be stronger the rear hook or the haymaker for a small person
The bat.
Big swing remember!
First and foremost shadowboxing should reinforce the basics. You start with learning how to stand properly, how to throw your punches correctly, and then incorporate footwork, and defense.
Working in front of a mirror is fine for certain things, but don't use it too much. Shadowboxing in front of a mirror tends to make a fighter too stationary as they are too transfixed on the guy in the mirror.
Training with a coach or partner (ie. padwork, or drills) will help improve your timing and awareness. This all feeds back into your shadowboxing/bag-work, and so with sparring as well. Your shadow boxing should gradually move from repetitious technique drills to a fight simulation where you are boxing an imaginary opponent, using your entire repertoire and ring savvy. Nonetheless, you should always return to the basics.
I dont believe it adds any power instead it does put your shoulder in good defensive position in relation to your chin and it helps keep your elbow from flaring out
Kimbo I think you need to go and do a small bit of reading on the basics of exercise and sport training.
the questions that you're asking are basically the same as asking "how long is a piece of string?"
Yes, that "elbow flare" (prevention) is another good point.
And to be specific, if you turn you hand anytime before the END of the punch then the elbow will necessarily flare out, turning it once the arm is practically straight (i.e., right at the end) will not matter.
So if you want to hit with a horizontal fist for any reason, including the 'shoulder position' being a better defensive posture then you must wait to turn it.
Get a tatoo of a ship's anchor on your forearm. Eat a can of Spinach. Stalk a woman called Olive and learn how to laugh like 'gug gug gug'. Oh, and be careful of a guy called Bluto.
my the randomness is difficult to follow.
How do you throw a 'Haymaker'? If that is indeed a serious question, join a boxing gym and learn that in boxing Haymakers are not used. Same with Haymaker Kicks. Join a martial arts gym and learn how to kick properly.
Trying to learn 'Haymakers' over the internet is a recipe to get hurt. Concentrate on your schoolwork instead. No hooks before books...
i dont know how to counter a haymaker in boxing can someone please help
Simple: counter it.
(ask a vague question and you'll get a vague answer)
Please think before posting.
What is the other fighter's stance?
What is your stance?
What is your position in the ring and relevant to him?
What side is he throwing from?
What angle is the punch coming from?
What position are you planning to be in after countering?
What is his next move going to be?
It's good that you are asking a lot of questions kimbo, but as Adam suggests, you really need to put more thought into your questions before posting.
How about giving us a bit of your background, experience and so on. That might be a good place to start from, and might let us help you better with replies. (try to be as detailed as possible, thanks)
@ adam i want too be in the position where i can throw a left hook to the face
Seriously?
You've asked the same question 20 times now.
Can no one else see this guy is taking the piss?
Truthfully if you are interested in defending yourself stick to a jab and a straight right to the body. I have ended many would be confrontations with those 2 punches. The jab if executed semi-correctly is more than enough to break a nose, tear up the eyes, interfere with breathing and it keeps you in a good defensive position and at a distance from any surprise blows. The straight right to the solar plexus (generally wide open after the jab to the face) quickly ends most confrontations and if for some reason it does go on from there I guarantee their desire is fading fast. The body punch targets an unexpected area, interferes with their breathing and takes all of their punching power away.
A haymaker is easily avoided or countered-if by some miracle it lands your hand will most likely be broke and if they dont go out you are left defending yourself with 1 hand.
Lastly a side step or drop step will save your face better than any haymaker and will put you in a position to do serious damage with your jab
my this guy is preoccupied with 'Haymakers'...
I know who you are, your cover is blown!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimbo123
Move along Audley Harrison. ;)
He has gotta be fuckin with us, because no one can ask this many retarded questions.
I'm shocked he doesn't have any cool clicks yet. lol
Should be the easiest one to see coming; unless you've over committed and youre caught blindsided by your own arm or you are leaning.
Do that twice and they may well have one waiting for you.
Combine harvesters are easier to see coming than haymakers.
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Originally Posted by Kimbo123
Well there you go: Assuming a right hay maker (which takes a relatively long time and goes way around to your left), just step inside and HIT HIM with your LEFT HOOK BEFORE the hay maker completes.
If you are slow to realize what he is doing, then use s short sharp upwards traveling left hook -- his punch will dissipate when yours gets there first, and because you have step inside of the punches arc.
Alternatively you can first block or duck his punch and throw the counters after.
As by now you should know the problems with haymakers is that they are SLOW, OBVIOUS (to call them telegraphed is to be kind -- they send formal notification), EASY TO BLOCK, EASY to AVOID, and EASY TO COUNTER.
The only thing you really must do is remain vigilant (don't lose your attention), have a good stance/balance from which you can MOVE. The only time such a punch works is when you fall asleep and LET HIM hit you -- it mostly happens outside the ring where two guys are arguing and one of them sucker punches the other who isn't protecting himself.
So: don't do that. Pay attention, especially if angry man is standing in front of you.
There is a real answer. Take it and give up the subject. Start asking good questions.
People have tried repeatedly to help you but you are becoming an item of ridicule by persisting in silly (not thought out) questions.
Contrary to popular sayings, there are such things as stupid questions.
guys im not messin with you im a begginer to this
is it true you should ALWAYS move your head when throwing a punch
I've merged your threads Kimbo, as there is a repetition to them and lack of detail also, that we have asked you for. So congrats on getting your own thread! Feel free to fire away with all the questions you want, but try to keep them in here if it is just going to be the same deal over and over...and/or lacking any real detail. ie "the haymaker"
ok i said whenever your throwing a punch like when you are shadow boxing or in a real match should you always move your head while throwing a punch
using head movement is very important, yes. And practicing it during shadowboxing a good idea. When slipping and countering you are doing both...moving your head, and throwing a punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimbo123
Here is a rather detailed video made from a contributor on here, which covers many things. But also explains head position and movement well. The poster is Dadi Asthorrson, and the vid brilliant. Hope it helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81non05aKX4
Ya but using a bat might be the only way your going to get it done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimbo123seriously i mean in boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
I think kimbo123 will become a legend on this forum.
So are you willing to ACT like a beginner?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimbo123
Early on when we suggested things such as 'learn to throw a jab properly first' you came back with "I already know how to jab properly".
You told us about how "powerful" your fantasy punch was but wanted us to tell you how to throw it.
Kimbo, do you see the contradiction?
It's not that you are asking 'beginner' or 'naive' questions, but that you are also telling us how you already know THE BASICS and refusing the REAL HELP we offered hoping to get you to concentrate on things that might help you boxing.
We can continue (if anyone is still willing) to answer your random questions, but the less attention you give to the REAL advice that gets included the less you will find people willing to deal with silliness -- you'll get more and more answers like 'use a bat' and fewer and fewer really helpful answers.
People will just start answering with one or two words -- why should they waste time on long, thoughtful, content filled answers that are just going to be ignored.
We can either begin to ignore you or you can allow us to help you learn to ASK BETTER QUESTIONS and PAY ATTENTION to the USEFUL INFORMATION even when you didn't realize what you really need to hear to begin to improve your skills.
Do you have a coach?
Do you train regularly?
Do you train in a boxing gym or somewhere where boxers have (very) good support and encouragement?
Are you willing to listen?
Would you READ a book if we recommended it?
Do you watch videos of GOOD FIGHTERS and try to figure out the SIMPLE things they do over and over (The BASICS!!!!)
Will you watch training videos (like the excellent tutorials by Scrap, or by Fran on MyBoxingCoach.com)?
Are you willing to learn to ask even better questions?
Are you only interesting in asking trivial questions or would you prefer to improve your boxing?
Ok, Back to your question "should you always move your head"?
I don't even know what that means, but NO, I don't "always move my head" when punching. A jab goes out with minimal movement -- why would my head move?
Of course, if I am MOVING MY FEET my head has to go along (for the ride) -- it needs to stay balance (really important not being facetious here) on top of a nice erect spine.
When I slip or fade, or course my head moves, but mostly because I bend at the waist or lower at the knees to duck and bob.
My head is NEVER stiff (I hope) -- it's relaxed, level, and balanced with a slight tilt of my chin forward towards my check to protect against knockout blows to the chin. Mostly this is by straightening the back of my neck and raising the crown of my head towards the ceiling rather than by lowering my head down on my check like I fell asleep in a train coach. I am standing tall, but head slight forward.
If I throw a body turning punch, then my head naturally swivels so that I continue to LOOK AT my opponent -- so yes, it moves like that too. I only swivel it as far as comfortable and natural and move my eyes if more range of motion is needed after that, but I must keep my opponent in view no matter how far my punch turns my shoulders.
Same for stepping in to the side or on a diagonal -- keep my head or at least my eyes on that guy TRYING TO HIT ME with his fists. He's dangerous and I must watch him consistently.
Is my head turning and nodding randomly or spastically all of the time? Of course not.
Much of your balance is (unconsciously) calculated based on you HEAD. You inner ear and EYES need to move in conjunction with your body or your balance is easily confused (this is the origin of motion sickness when riding in bouncing or turning vehicles).
Your brain must calculate what your eyes see (level, moving etc) with what your inner ears feel (up/down, left/right, accelerating/decelerating) with your PROPRIOCEPTIVE senses that tell you the angles of your joints, the weight distribution on your feet, etc.
Unnecessary motion of your head doesn't help this coordinating calculation -- your balance and movement will suffer.
What happens when you get hit? Hopefully you are able to move your head in a relaxed way away from a punch, slipping and rolling with it, absorbing the energy you cannot avoid and quickly returning your spinal alignment (and of course your head) to its proper erect position over you hips which are over your feet and center of gravity.
Any time your head is NOT over your feet and center of gravity you have two good choices:
Move your head back over your feet
Move your feet back under your head
Really. These are BOTH incredibly important. Sometimes it is just too dangerous (e.g., more blows or attacks are coming to where you read was supposed to be) to just straighten up, and in these case it helps to know how to put your feet and hips back "under your head and shoulders".
That is a primary skill in "bobbing and weaving" that separates this style from mere slipping and fading.
For those simpler ways or moving you head offline of the attack, you usually just straighten back up.
Now how serious are you Kimbo about BEING A BEGINNER and LEARNING?
That doesn't mean you cannot tell something that you really do think you understand -- after all *I* am just a BEGINNER TOO -- but rather that you will process the help we give you and never answer with "I already know all that".
Many of my longest and most helpful seeming posts were of as much benefit to me as to the guy asking the question.
If I post something stupid, wrong, or incomplete, I am HOPING that someone will set me straight or come back with something more for me to consider or learn.
Even in this post, I learned something technical and specific just by writing the message. (Something that had bugged me for a long time. Turned out that I knew the answer, or actually that I had all the information needed to determine the answer.)
Do you want to learn about impractical trivia like haymakers or do you want to PROVE YOUR BOXING?
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Herb