lol...saw the video for the first time and i thought it was absolutely hilarious!!! margarito and co. were just having a little fun, no need to get up in arms about!
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lol...saw the video for the first time and i thought it was absolutely hilarious!!! margarito and co. were just having a little fun, no need to get up in arms about!
Thing is I'm not even sure that they acted the way they did to hype the fight. Seems to me that that type of behavior comes naturally for them. Here's hoping Lowther pulls an upset on Rios. As for Margo, Manny hopefully takes him out of boxing for good. Or better yet, get KTFO'd on the 13th and go do a rematch with Cotto and get clobbered into retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Wouldn't surprise me. You once made fun of the brain damage that ended Z Gorres' career. Guess you find humor in things most people don't. Sad bro..Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
I laugh at certain stuff that are below the belt but it's a disease that ruins lives. Roach, despite having Parkinson's is a great inspiration to other sufferers, he is still a world class trainer and probably gives people some hope in being so.Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
I don't see any fun in this to be honest. It's childish and pathetic.
Awesome video, it's edited really well.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL4mPeN4txgQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Looks like it's already getting around, and more attention now because they are trying to scrub it from youtube. You can see apology reports coming out now from Garcia.
Maybe your boy Jose Suliaman can sell him a title: interim Silver impression champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Margarito and Co are pretty much as low as it gets.
Margarito shuld just be happy he's allowed to box anymore much less get offered a fight this big ...which I think it's total bullshit he got offered this fight in the first place because he's a cheater and a liar and there's no telling how many people he's hurt by cheating....he's lower than whale shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Truth
I used to give him the benefit of the doubt after the whole hand wrap fiasco since I really admired him back then and was rooting for him in his fights before Mosley. And I even felt genuinely sad for him when he lost to Williams. I always thought he epitomized the Mexican warrior who's heart always carries him through a fight no matter how much odds were stacked against him, win or lose. Sad that now I'm seeing who he truly is. Must be the beer talking but I've lost all respect for the Tijuana Tornado after his latest antics.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongMargarito shuld just be happy he's allowed to box anymore much less get offered a fight this big ...which I think it's total bullshit he got offered this fight in the first place because he's a cheater and a liar and there's no telling how many people he's hurt by cheating....he's lower than whale shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Truth
There are no rules to shit talking guys, especially in boxing. See Ali, Tyson, and Mayorga as prime examples. Anything goes. Race, families, little kids, debilitating diseases, etc. That's how boxing has always been.
WSHH dot com won't get scrubbed of the video. As much as I don't like Pac for many reasons this is to much. The same people saying this video is just trash talk are the same saying the bricks in the hand wrap joke was just a joke... So how would people feel if Pac and Roach went in on Mexicans? As in Racial jokes? I mean that's the same as making fun of a man who will die of a disease someday. And the whole brick in the wrap jokes and playing with the cement block are just a kick in the face to boxing.
1. Marg should have kept his mouth shut and been a good little bi#$h and be appreciative he got another chance.
2. As much as I hate Pac, when Pac destroys him on top of people being for Margo getting another chance (I myself)
he will have nobody to feel sorry for him. Nobody will care. His personality and way he carries himself and the
crap he talked and joked about will bite him in the a## on his way down.
3. So in essence Margo will lose bad, he is already destroying his character he should have been trying to repair and
finally he will be gone. They won't just remember him for losing...he will be remembered for losing and mocking
everything boxing stands for including the second's chance he shouldn't have got.
After all this has taken place..I give Margo 12months before he hangs himself.
Eating kids is a joke, Tyson was just ridiculous. So has anyone ever used racial slurs? Like the forbidden N word? I think a disease should be put in that category. I don't recall anyone getting away with the N wordQuote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
I'm pretty sure when Jack Johnson was HW champ it was used often, especially when the great white hope was being propped up.Quote:
Originally Posted by mafiajoeyEating kids is a joke, Tyson was just ridiculous. So has anyone ever used racial slurs? Like the forbidden N word? I think a disease should be put in that category. I don't recall anyone getting away with the N wordQuote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Ali called Frazier a gorilla, uncle Tom, a white man's champ, etc. Tyson talked about stomping on little kid's balls during the buildup against Lewis and during his little tirade against some journalist was going crazy about "faggot white boy" and all that. Mayorga talked about killing Spinks in the ring so he can joined his dead mother. Shit talking has always been part of the fight game.
This is no worse.
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Was happy to just read through this thread for a bit of enjoyment, but that is just utter crap.... I just did a poll like a week ago and most people either think Pac must be guilty, or at least have serious doubts about him..... So to say everyone believes he's innocent just cause he's Pac is crap... Margarito was found guilty and suspended.. There is a difference.. And watching them make a giant joke for over a minute about putting sh!t in the gloves is retarted..Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
I don't really get personally offended by anything, but I once beleived in Margarito and respected him above most fighters.. Unfortunatley the hand wrap thing changed that, but i'm still willing to accept that he did his time and is back...
But it's still not a joke that he was walking into a boxing ring and potentially doing serious damage to someone through illegal means...
It's the same theory if someone has gone to jail for raping someone then a year after they are out, pretending to rape someone on camera and making a joke of it... Or someone shooting someone then pretending to shoot someone once they are out...
NOOOO I am NOT saying Margarito's hand wraps are the same as rape,,,,, what i'm saying is,,,, when you've been caught fu'cking over the whole game of boxing, and get a second chance, rise above and don't act like a dickhead about what you did wrong in the first place..
It's that simple....
Regardless, if he did this in his own time with no camera's on him then I or no one else here would give a shit... But he's on camera to an enormous amount of people, and whether he gives a crap about them or his image or not doesn't matter, just rise above the crap and show you deserve some respect other than that of what you earn in the ring....
That's just my opinion, no need to argue as I don't expect or wish everyone to have the same opinion as me.... But with every person who does share my view, it goes 1 person further to proving Margarito is being a plonker...
Nuff said!!!
Once they in the ring though, I just want a cracking fight and I don't think about none of this sh!t....
Whale shit I imagine is as low as it gets.. ;D nice one...Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongMargarito shuld just be happy he's allowed to box anymore much less get offered a fight this big ...which I think it's total bullshit he got offered this fight in the first place because he's a cheater and a liar and there's no telling how many people he's hurt by cheating....he's lower than whale shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Truth
Unless it floats.....But if my fish tank has taught me anything, Whale shit is going down where no man has gone before...
And Rios is a C level wanker as it is.... And already sounds like he's been punched around in the ring for a whole 45 year career... and he's only like 20! Hate to see how dumb and slobbery he sounds by the time he's 25...
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Originally Posted by generalbulldogI'm pretty sure when Jack Johnson was HW champ it was used often, especially when the great white hope was being propped up.Quote:
Originally Posted by mafiajoeyEating kids is a joke, Tyson was just ridiculous. So has anyone ever used racial slurs? Like the forbidden N word? I think a disease should be put in that category. I don't recall anyone getting away with the N wordQuote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Ali called Frazier a gorilla, uncle Tom, a white man's champ, etc. Tyson talked about stomping on little kid's balls during the buildup against Lewis and during his little tirade against some journalist was going crazy about "faggot white boy" and all that. Mayorga talked about killing Spinks in the ring so he can joined his dead mother. Shit talking has always been part of the fight game.
This is no worse.
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Trash talk yes, all of the above yes is trash talk. Of course it's been around. And It's 2010 and even Ali calling Frazier a gorilla isn't anything close to what I am talking about. THE N WORD Have You heard the N word used freely by another ethnicity to a black fighter? NO, cause it wouldn't get aired. So I'm saying disease should be the same. Call someones mother a dirty ho, tell someone your going to eat his kids blah blah...But what would happen if someone told Laila Ali they are going to whoop her into a retard like her dad. And then they went on to make fun of Mr. Ali?
As much as most of you hate Floyd Sr, I didn't see anyone making fun of him cause hes in the hospital. Everyone's just used to Roach having the disease but it's serious.
Trash talk is good! But a man who has a disease and is going to die from it someday. Come on this is like using the N word. I can't believe he even thought of it. Like I said...Margo will hang himself in 12months. Suicide by plaster wrap.
There is a difference between trash talking and mocking somebody for his physical disabilities. Attack somebody for his ideas but never for physical hindrances he has. This was just one more pavement of disgrace in Margarito's sea and Robert Garcia/Rios really got lower in my esteem for that.
Micas,
Your pañero Margarito was very fortunate he got a shot as you said from a dirty a ped user Pacquiao. I hope you understand your Pañero CHEATO Margarito is "NADA" Or nothing to offer in reality without Arum or Pacquiao, he will live like a rats until now.
That's pretty low. Margarito has no class. But we all knew that anyway.
Exactly. I am not defending Margarito, but this is boxing and the above fighters have done just as outrageous things as Margarito has just done and they still have their fair share of admirers. He has acted like a tit, just as a lot of fighters do as well. I think it was that P4P ducker who stayed up until 5am to make a bunch of racial slurs just a few weeks back. Boxers are not always the most politically correct of types. Neither am I all the time either. All of us says or does something that crosses the line sometimes. I have impersonated a spastic more than once in my life, though not on camera and certainly not in front of an actual spastic. It's a pretty good impression actually, but not something I have done in about a decade.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Not big and not clever, but whatchya gonna do. Throw stones and get upset forever? I just want to see a good scrap.
All Margarito did there was do a bit of a shakey stutter, pretty harmless. If anyone crossed the line it was Garcia. The whole playing on the handwraps thing does go too far as Margarito has done his time for it. It is the Margarito team that should be trying to move away from that if anything. A harmless impression is fair game for a juvenile mind and a bit of time on his hands, but talking about handwraps and threats of actual violence using them, not such a gag. A mixed bag for me really. Rios comes across as a bit mindless and you sense that he is the kind of guy that needs boxing. Take that away and you likely have a seriously loose cannon.
I'm sure it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesAll of us says or does something that crosses the line sometimes. I have impersonated a spastic more than once in my life, though not on camera and certainly not in front of an actual spastic. It's a pretty good impression actually, but not something I have done in about a decade.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Not big and not clever, but whatchya gonna do. Throw stones and get upset forever? I just want to see a good scrap.
Margarito is not "shit talking" though he's just showing what an utter lowlife he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
You would expect a man in his situation to act whiter than white. At the very least show a bit of decorum.
Instead we have him making light of the handwraps disgrace and mocking a man with a terrible illness. I bet anyone that gave him the benefit of doubt for the handwraps incident, as in it was a one-off, is having second thoughts.
My girlfriend loves your sig Ono... I'm slightly impartial to Katy Perry myself actually. Always a pleasant thread to scroll through when you have participated..Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
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waa waa waa, when is this whining going to stop? get over it ladies, boxing is a man's sport with a lot of shit talkers. everybody does it even freddie "shakey" roach! see, i just did it. are you offended by that? some of you act like a bunch of women acting as if you've never heard anything controversial before. :eek:
.... And here I thought Floyd was the only dick in boxing. Funny how some things are ok for some but such a sin for others. If Floyd did this shit people would be protesting with their undies twisted up calling for him to be deported and shot.
That's not trash talk. Trash talk is to your opponent.
They were screwing around in the gym and got caught. Tony is an idiot and this will be his last big fight when Pac makes him look bad.
Way to go on ruining the scrap of respect you had left Tony. No class.
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Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Who cares if you mock Roach like that? :lolhaha: Marg is a very high-profile personel and you're not. This is why this whole thing is a big deal. The diff between you and him is kids actually (used) look up to him, and you're just a bottom feeding low-life scum of the earth.
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Originally Posted by Mar
Did you read all the responses???? There's like one guy that isn't bashing Tony for this.
If Floyd did it there would be about 3 other threads saying what a brilliant P.R. move it was and how he's gonna make more money now. :confused::confused::confused:
That was a spot on reply man! SPOT ON!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgameQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
Did you read all the responses???? There's like one guy that isn't bashing Tony for this.
If Floyd did it there would be about 3 other threads saying what a brilliant P.R. move it was and how he's gonna make more money now. :confused::confused::confused:
I really started to by into Marg and Garcia path to righteousness after the first 24/7 - then it gradually got worse, and now they threw away every little bit of respect they had, which wasn't much to begin with...
Oh well, time for an a$$ whooping saturday...
Freddie Roach for the past couple of years has been a pompous asshole to be honest. But Rios & Tony were wrong for that one. If you're gonna talk shit about someone, talk about the way he dresses, or talk about how he sucked as a boxer and got his ass whooped all the time, but don't talk about Parkinson's. That's below the belt.
cnote111,
and what you gonna say if your lord and savior, pedman loses?
for those of you who are so, ahem, "hurt" by what margarito and rios did on that video, just wanted to let you know that both have issued apologies. is everybody happy now? please, no more crying by anybody on this website because if you'd like, i'll personally, on behalf of margarito and rios of course, give you a big bear hug to wash away your sadness!!! :eek: feel better now? ;)
True, but the greater percentage of fighters and corners dont go there its minority, we are trying to hold up boxing as a respectable sport to the masses. Thats why this stuff rubs against the grain of the majority of people both in and out of the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
That is so condescending, it's annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Dont do it again.
No one is crying.
So that means they've accepted they were wrong. Which means that everyone on this thread that said they were wrong have been proved right.Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
An apology from you will do (no need for hugs).
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fenster,
why should i apologize to anyone? i didn't say those things to roach. you know, i understand what margarito and rios said was wrong but maybe this time roach will think twice before he talks crap about everyone else. he got what he deserved, imo, and i think he's been humbled a little bit!
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Originally Posted by milmascaras1
(TitoFan, with a patient sigh): Milmascaras... listen to yourself. C'mon... boxing is all about talking crap. Crap about how you're going to destroy an opponent... crap about how your opponent's no good... even crap about how your opponent was caught cheating and got suspended. But be real. Roach does not "deserve" to have his disease made fun of, because he talks crap about Margarito or anybody else. That's not the way it works. And if Margacheato had a decent bone in his body, he'd know that.
titofan,
well margarito and rios already apologized and roach accepted. sometimes we say things we don't mean. i doubt mike tyson or floyd mayweather jr. got this kind of hatred when they mouthed off!