Re: JMM: I'll fight him at any weight he wants, not a problem since he was 148
neutral,
and marquez did ask chris john for a rematch in the U.S. but of course, john is a pussy. and read my comments more carefully before you comment, i said john won't travel to the U.S. to fight any BIG fights. i don't think a very average rocky juarez can be considered as BIG.
Re: JMM: I'll fight him at any weight he wants, not a problem since he was 148
i like JMM he's a good fighter whis given boxing some good nights of action....i make him right wirh what he said...mosely is washed up and theres always been a lack of ending to the pacman v jmm saga.....if its a matter of pac fights either mosley or jmm it should 100% be jmm.....before mayweather fans says pacs ducking jmm i'll say this...pac doesnt need to fight jmm but jmm needs to fight pac to continue his career at the top level....at 37 jmm knows those big nights infront of big crowds with hugh tv viewers are all but over in rapid quick time........if mayweather had the guts to step upto the plate we'd not be talking about these match-ups al all
Re: JMM: I'll fight him at any weight he wants, not a problem since he was 148
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milmascaras1
neutral,
and marquez did ask chris john for a rematch in the U.S. but of course, john is a pussy. and read my comments more carefully before you comment, i said john won't travel to the U.S. to fight any BIG fights. i don't think a very average rocky juarez can be considered as BIG.
I tried to look up that Marquez did ask Chris John for a rematch in the US but could not find it so maybe you can provide me the link.
Assuming that you are correct (once you provided the link), for how long did JMM pursue such rematch? And for how long did JMM pursue Manny for a fight and to what extent did he pursue it?
My point here is that there is honor in winning a fight with CJ so as to avenge that loss but there is little money. Any sane boxer will pursue the fight which will be financially rewarding. I just responded to the previous question as to how important money is to JMM.
But I will be waiting for that link.
Re: JMM: I'll fight him at any weight he wants, not a problem since he was 148
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Yes, money is likely the other important factor. But how important is that to Marquez really? I know if I was a millionaire I wouldn't be too worried about needing to keep maxing out my income. It would be more about just wanting to do the best job that I can. I think someone like Marquez just loves to fight and that the win is the most important thing. The money is great and not to be sniffed at, but Mrquez is not exactly a poor man. He doesn't need to fight Pac or risk going broke. His money likely goes a long way in Mexico. Marquez wants that win.
lol, you are so naive miles it's unbelievable. All these years you've been intently following boxing, on this site at least, and yet you still don't get that MONEY is the ONLY thing that matters in boxing.
"Marquez just loves to fight" ... that is utter fantasy. If Marquez, like every other PRIZEfighter that ever lived, wasn't rewarded by large sums of dough you would have never seen him in a professional ring.
If the money is right fighters fight. If it's not they don't. Simple as that.
Miles would probably respond with something like this, "You're wrong. No one in boxing fights for money. Everyone fights for honor and integrity and they just do it because......well they just love the sport and are fighting for legacy."
;D
Re: JMM: I'll fight him at any weight he wants, not a problem since he was 148
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generalbulldog
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Fenster
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miles
Yes, money is likely the other important factor. But how important is that to Marquez really? I know if I was a millionaire I wouldn't be too worried about needing to keep maxing out my income. It would be more about just wanting to do the best job that I can. I think someone like Marquez just loves to fight and that the win is the most important thing. The money is great and not to be sniffed at, but Mrquez is not exactly a poor man. He doesn't need to fight Pac or risk going broke. His money likely goes a long way in Mexico. Marquez wants that win.
lol, you are so naive miles it's unbelievable. All these years you've been intently following boxing, on this site at least, and yet you still don't get that MONEY is the ONLY thing that matters in boxing.
"Marquez just loves to fight" ... that is utter fantasy. If Marquez, like every other PRIZEfighter that ever lived, wasn't rewarded by large sums of dough you would have never seen him in a professional ring.
If the money is right fighters fight. If it's not they don't. Simple as that.
Miles would probably respond with something like this, "You're wrong. No one in boxing fights for money. Everyone fights for honor and integrity and they just do it because......well they just love the sport and are fighting for legacy."
;D
Well, if the only motivation Marquez has is money then why did he go all the way overseas to fight Chris John for approximately $17? There were better options out there. Apparently there was a Pac fight for a lot more money. If it was ALL about the money then surely it was insane to choose Chris John as an opponent.
I don't think money can be accepted as the only reason fighters fight. Most of them have been doing this since they were kids and barely into their teens. They love to do it. There was no guarantee of them becoming world champions and gaining the opprtunity to fight for multi million dollar purses, but regardless that is the hobby that they chose to pursue. Of course money is extremely significant and every fighter wants a nest egg, but just as I might be naive to suggest that some fighters simply love what they do, perhaps others are just too cynical in suggesting that it can ONLY be about the money.
I don't think that is neccessarily true, I think it is somewhere between those trains of thought depending on the fighter. Mayweather is clearly all about the money, but someone like Marqez? I don't think this is always the case.
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miles
Well, if the only motivation Marquez has is money then why did he go all the way overseas to fight Chris John for approximately $17?
still because of MONEY. :)
He was chasing the belt to get more leverage on negotiating for bigger money.
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miles
Well, if the only motivation Marquez has is money then why did he go all the way overseas to fight Chris John for approximately $17?
still because of MONEY. :)
He was chasing the belt to get more leverage on negotiating for bigger money.
Exactly. And why did the Pac negotiations breakdown? Marquez wanted more MONEY.
Of course boxers enjoy being boxers, or would have started out enjoying it, but there would be no pro boxing without the prospect of earning shit loads. The idea that a fighter is not concerned by how much he earns for the love of fighting, is absolutely ridiculous. It's the thought process of a child that gets read fairytales every night before bed... and they all lived happily ever after.
Miles, check this quote from your hero Barrera...“Con dinero, baila el perro. You know what this means? For money the dog will dance. It is one of my favorite expressions. This is a business, you take the best offer.” - Marco Antonio Barrera
And some more fighters thoughts...
"Fighters want to fight for titles, but not as much as we want to fight for MONEY." - Roy Jones jr
Any boxer who says he loves boxing is either a liar or a fool, I'm not looking for glory.I'm not looking for titles.I'm not looking for the hall of fame.I'm looking for money.I'm looking for readies. - Chris Eubank
When you are fighting, you're fighting for one thing...money - Jack Dempsey
I looked upon boxing purely as a business. As a means to an end. Getting the money. - John Conteh
In pro boxing, let's face it, the name of the game is how much you make - not how many honours won. Billy Walker was the most successful flop in history. - Reg Gutteridge
When they told me Foreman had beaten Frazier, I thought my, my, there goes $5 million. - Muhammad Ali
"Shane Mosley says, 'Floyd Mayweather fights for Money', ya FUCKIN', dummy! I'm a PRIZE fighter! That's what I suppose to fight for a PRIZE, DUH!" - Floyd Mayweather
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Fenster
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miron_lang
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miles
Well, if the only motivation Marquez has is money then why did he go all the way overseas to fight Chris John for approximately $17?
still because of MONEY. :)
He was chasing the belt to get more leverage on negotiating for bigger money.
Exactly. And why did the Pac negotiations breakdown? Marquez wanted more MONEY.
Of course boxers enjoy being boxers, or would have started out enjoying it, but there would be no pro boxing without the prospect of earning shit loads. The idea that a fighter is not concerned by how much he earns for the love of fighting, is absolutely ridiculous. It's the thought process of a child that gets read fairytales every night before bed... and they all lived happily ever after.
Miles, check this quote from your hero Barrera...
“Con dinero, baila el perro. You know what this means? For money the dog will dance. It is one of my favorite expressions. This is a business, you take the best offer.” - Marco Antonio Barrera
And some more fighters thoughts...
"Fighters want to fight for titles, but not as much as we want to fight for MONEY." - Roy Jones jr
Any boxer who says he loves boxing is either a liar or a fool, I'm not looking for glory.I'm not looking for titles.I'm not looking for the hall of fame.I'm looking for money.I'm looking for readies. - Chris Eubank
When you are fighting, you're fighting for one thing...money - Jack Dempsey
I looked upon boxing purely as a business. As a means to an end. Getting the money. - John Conteh
In pro boxing, let's face it, the name of the game is how much you make - not how many honours won. Billy Walker was the most successful flop in history. - Reg Gutteridge
When they told me Foreman had beaten Frazier, I thought my, my, there goes $5 million. - Muhammad Ali
"Shane Mosley says, 'Floyd Mayweather fights for Money', ya FUCKIN', dummy! I'm a PRIZE fighter! That's what I suppose to fight for a PRIZE, DUH!" - Floyd Mayweather
Damn you just broke Mile's image of that noble gladiator inside the ring that fights only because of honor, pride, and integrity and that money really doesn't matter that much, when it clearly is the no. 1 thing.
Hell, even Ray Robinson says he thinks boxing is a cruel and savage sport and that he was only in it because it was damn good money to be made.
