Re: Chinny fighters that outboxed KO artists over 12/15 rounds?
I think Peter-Klitschko I is a good example Fenster. In the buildup to that fight, it was definitely a boxer vs crude puncher deal and they fought like that too. At the time, Peter was the hardest puncher in the division. Wlad fought like it too. I don't think that's a bad example at all.
Also, I know this thread is a prelude to the Khan-Maidana fight but Khan is a decent puncher himself and don't forget that Ortiz put him down 3 times and Corley had him on queer street. I know he's a big puncher but I'm just not sure this guy has the skillset to actually find Khan's chin without his getting found out first. I think Khan has an equally good shot at a TKO/KO win then he does at a decision win. I would bet on either of those results before I would bet on a Maidana win too.
Ortiz fought a very stupid fight against Maidana. He knocked him down early and then got dragged into a total firefight. I forget which fight it was that was canceled which forced Ortiz into main billing in the Staples Center on HBO but I definitely think the pressure got to him. In a rematch, I would pick Ortiz to win. Roach won't let Khan get suckered into that type of fight, or anything remotely resembling it. I forgot just how foolish Ortiz was for fighting that type of fight but I think he was just overly nervous and got tricked into thinking he could bomb Maidana out. If he went at him the way he went at Nate Campbell, it would've been a different result.
I would pick Ortiz, Peterson and Khan to all handle Maidana on Saturday if they stayed disciplined but all could potentially get sparked. I think it would be cool if they had the winners and losers of each fight fight each other. It would go Khan-Peterson and Ortiz-Maidana imo.
Re: Chinny fighters that outboxed KO artists over 12/15 rounds?
B level Darrell woods making it against Samuel miller suprised. Mo Harris over Jeremy Williams. Thought Regillio Turr would surely get Calvin grove but no.
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Hatton was chinny? That's ridiculous. He was peppered by a million punches before being stopped by one of the greatest fighters in history - and anyone on Earth that fought Pacquiao like they'd just stepped out of a nightclub at 4am would get wiped out. Fact.
In Hattons fight with Lazcano (a career lightweight), I was really shocked at how many times he got wobbled and had to fight through. I was almost in disbelief about the way Lazcano fought and how easily he hurt him with short shots. I think he was very resilient around the waste, but he has a spark zone that is a little light for a world class fighter. He had no lack of heart or recovery ability either.
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Markus Beyer vs Danny Green
Anthony Mundine vs Danny Green
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Junior Jones vs Orlando Canizales = I wouldn't say Orlando Canizales is a 1 hit KO puncher, but i think he has the type of power, to turn a fight around with 1 punch.
Junior Jones vs Jorge Aliecer Julio = Another respectful puncher.
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Hatton was chinny? That's ridiculous. He was peppered by a million punches before being stopped by one of the greatest fighters in history - and anyone on Earth that fought Pacquiao like they'd just stepped out of a nightclub at 4am would get wiped out. Fact.
In Hattons fight with Lazcano (a career lightweight), I was really shocked at how many times he got wobbled and had to fight through. I was almost in disbelief about the way Lazcano fought and how easily he hurt him with short shots. I think he was very resilient around the waste, but he has a spark zone that is a little light for a world class fighter. He had no lack of heart or recovery ability either.
He was noticeably buzzed twice in that fight. He never went down. He never stumbled around like a drunk. He carried on coming forward. It was coming to the end of his career. And hardly a fighter in history hasn't been buzzed.
His style meant he always took a ton of shots. If he was chinny he would have never made it through 40 odd fights without getting stopped.
Did he have a granite chin? No. Did he have a weak chin? No. He had a solid chin that allowed him to only ever be stopped by two greats. That don't make him chinny. Fact.
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Wlad vs Peter.
Morrison vs Foreman.
Moorer vs Holyfield 1 (not what I would call ko artist, but Holyfield does have very good power.)
:lol:
Behave
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Good thing papa ref was there to tie Hattons boots for him ;D
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Good thing papa ref was there to tie Hattons boots for him ;D
Yeah - Hatton had the wits about him to make sure he got his laces tied. Which proves he couldn't have been that dazed ;)
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Edwin Rosario-Jose Luis Ramirez 1. Ramirez was a big puncher. And Rosario was hella chinny. Case in point. Fight 2
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Mundine verses Okkte .
Sorry, I just find the paradox really funny.
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Edwin Rosario-Jose Luis Ramirez 1. Ramirez was a big puncher. And Rosario was hella chinny. Case in point. Fight 2
Didn't Ramirez survive JCC onslaught?
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Corey Spinks Vs. Mayorga/Judah I
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Corey Spinks Vs. Mayorga/Judah I
I never considered Spinks to be chinny
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Corey Spinks Vs. Mayorga/Judah I
I never considered Spinks to be chinny
i always have, the thing is his defense and movement was good enough that he wouldn't get hit flush too often, but the times he had been tagged he was either hurt, was KO'd or retreated
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ElTerribleMorales
Corey Spinks Vs. Mayorga/Judah I
I never considered Spinks to be chinny
i always have, the thing is his defense and movement was good enough that he wouldn't get hit flush too often, but the times he had been tagged he was either hurt, was KO'd or retreated
Karmazin, Taylor and Lattimore pack good power. He took there shots the times they landed. Spinks is done. So that can pretty much discard the K-9 fight. And the Judah stoppage was well.... it happens. Either way I think Spinks chin was ok.
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Yeah his chin was solid (Spinks), he took good shots from everyone Judah/Mayorga/Karmazin and Latimore. In the Latimore fight you could kind of see that his legs were beginning to fail him even though he won he just didn't have the legs and that's when his punch resistance started to go.
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I don't really remember Cory Spinks taking that many solid shots, from Ricardo Mayorga or Zab Judah. He outboxed Ricard Mayorga for a majority of the fight, and hardly got tagged all night with a flush shot. He went down atleast a dozen times though, and one of them was a legit knockdown.
Both fights vs Zab Judah were chess matches, and he was on the verge of being stopped against Zab Judah in the last round of there 1st fight, and when he got tagged by Zab Judah in there 2nd fight he never recovered.
Im not so sure he has a solid chin, he always looked a tad vulnerable to me chin wise. He didn't have a weak chin. I'd call his chin average, its just his great reflexes stopped him taking flush shots.
Pernell Whitaker was the same but he did actually have a very good chin, because when his reflexes slowed he took great shots from a great puncher. Like Felix Trinidad whilst having a broken jaw aswell.
Where as when Cory Spink's reflexes slowed up, he didn't take shots that great. Which leads me to believe he had an average chin.
