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I called Wlad a pussy in my first comment in this thread. Just to be clear: it was a joke.
I think this is all just unfortunate. Wlad has no reason to back out of this fight at all, infact by pulling out so late he's probably lost money for his troubles so I doubt very much he's ducking Chisora. Why would you if you've got so much confidence in your ability, born out of beating people up for years.
I don't like the guy, but a pussy he is not.
Is it only UK posters that don't like Wlad? Of course not. So how can you possibly know from which country reps are coming from?Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
And why not refer to those UK posters that makes those kinds of insults that Wlad is a pussy/chicken/coward? They are considered to be longtime regular members here that are highly respected with those rep points or whatever they are along with high post counts. Isn't that how it works here if a member makes a post that people like that they get rep points? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThose are fine American posters among many of your countrymen that embarrass themselves by constantly using derogatory terms towards fighters (i'll be here all night if I name them).Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogIf we're talking about this board, I don't think I've ever called a boxer those names, neither has other American members here like killersheep, spicoli, cutmemick, jonesjrmayweather, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterI agree 100%. I would never call a boxer any of those names either. But Lyle has, like lots of your countrymen, so now he is getting shit for his double standards. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogTBH, I think Wlad deserves the benefit of the doubt, because he is the lineal and legit HW champ that has basically cleaned out the division and has ducked no one. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterCouldn't give a shit about the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongYeah and most of you didn't think Chisora deserved the fight to begin with so I fail to see why you're upset. Wlad being injured and calling this fight off is like delaying a sparring session....AND its the best Christmas gift Dereck Chisora could have gotten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
#1 Free publicity in the pre fight hype
#2 He is now free to sign another fight and catapult himself into the thick of the division
#3 Chisora having done nothing but talk will command more money as a fighter IF he can sign another fight vs some Top 20 heavyweight and look good.
Why all the fuss, we all knew Chisora was going to get smashed anyway, at least now he has a chance to have a decent fight and make a name for himself before getting slaughtered.
Just pointing out what a hypocrite you are. A million posts moaning and groaning like a little girl about "chicken little," accusing him of faking injuries and what not, now Wlad pulls out with the same thing and it's no big deal.
Your boy Wlad has mugged you right off. Fact.
And about Lyle moaning and groaning, it's nothing compared to Haye's fellow countrymen, particularly on this board that has called Wlad a chicken, coward, pussy, punk, ducker, bitch, cherry picker, etc. Fact.;)
Never could understand how a boxer could be called those things considering how they are making their living. I don't even like Khan or Haye, but at least I won't even call them those things.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Fact.
And about calling Khan a con, which is shortened for con artist for fighting soft punchers until the Maidana fight is quite different than calling him a coward or other synonyms like it. Unless you're going to tell me the words con and coward are the same.;)
Just like my fellow countrymen - Big H, Memphis, Jazzmerkin, ono, etc - who i'm sure you'll agree are sound minded posters, represent the standards of Brits on here, not my fellow countrymen you continually refer too that insult fighters ;)
If an American calls Haye a pussy, and gets tons of rep, does it mean every American poster thinks Haye is a pussy? Of course not. AS you've pointed out, there are some sound minded American posters on here, therefore making the generalisation that your fellow American countrymen all think a particular way would be very ignorant ;)
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Originally Posted by El KabongIts a legitimate injury and not an "injury" so once again I fail to follow your line of reasoning. Wlad's a professional boxer and sometimes injuries just happen, this injury in no way benefits Wladimir who throughout his career has fought 2-4 times a year every year whether he's held a title or not. In the fight (that never happened) that you guys are referencing a certain someone bailed on the fight with a phony injury because the TV company that did his contract was going bust and he backed out, he also backed out of another fight to sign an easier fight (a title shot vs Valuev) so he could increase his leverage in negotiations....how do those circumstances match up with this situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
None of you really cared about this fight, you just want to use it to try and get at me and you're welcome to do so, but you've got seriously flawed logic.
Can't have it both ways sunshine.
The situations aren't comparable princessQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIts a legitimate injury and not an "injury" so once again I fail to follow your line of reasoning. Wlad's a professional boxer and sometimes injuries just happen, this injury in no way benefits Wladimir who throughout his career has fought 2-4 times a year every year whether he's held a title or not. In the fight (that never happened) that you guys are referencing a certain someone bailed on the fight with a phony injury because the TV company that did his contract was going bust and he backed out, he also backed out of another fight to sign an easier fight (a title shot vs Valuev) so he could increase his leverage in negotiations....how do those circumstances match up with this situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
None of you really cared about this fight, you just want to use it to try and get at me and you're welcome to do so, but you've got seriously flawed logic.
Can't have it both ways sunshine.
Can't have it both ways sunshineQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe situations aren't comparable princessQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIts a legitimate injury and not an "injury" so once again I fail to follow your line of reasoning. Wlad's a professional boxer and sometimes injuries just happen, this injury in no way benefits Wladimir who throughout his career has fought 2-4 times a year every year whether he's held a title or not. In the fight (that never happened) that you guys are referencing a certain someone bailed on the fight with a phony injury because the TV company that did his contract was going bust and he backed out, he also backed out of another fight to sign an easier fight (a title shot vs Valuev) so he could increase his leverage in negotiations....how do those circumstances match up with this situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
None of you really cared about this fight, you just want to use it to try and get at me and you're welcome to do so, but you've got seriously flawed logic.
Can't have it both ways sunshine.
The situations aren't comparable princessQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerCan't have it both ways sunshineQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe situations aren't comparable princessQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIts a legitimate injury and not an "injury" so once again I fail to follow your line of reasoning. Wlad's a professional boxer and sometimes injuries just happen, this injury in no way benefits Wladimir who throughout his career has fought 2-4 times a year every year whether he's held a title or not. In the fight (that never happened) that you guys are referencing a certain someone bailed on the fight with a phony injury because the TV company that did his contract was going bust and he backed out, he also backed out of another fight to sign an easier fight (a title shot vs Valuev) so he could increase his leverage in negotiations....how do those circumstances match up with this situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
None of you really cared about this fight, you just want to use it to try and get at me and you're welcome to do so, but you've got seriously flawed logic.
Can't have it both ways sunshine.
Can't have it both ways sunshine.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe situations aren't comparable princessQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerCan't have it both ways sunshineQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe situations aren't comparable princessQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIts a legitimate injury and not an "injury" so once again I fail to follow your line of reasoning. Wlad's a professional boxer and sometimes injuries just happen, this injury in no way benefits Wladimir who throughout his career has fought 2-4 times a year every year whether he's held a title or not. In the fight (that never happened) that you guys are referencing a certain someone bailed on the fight with a phony injury because the TV company that did his contract was going bust and he backed out, he also backed out of another fight to sign an easier fight (a title shot vs Valuev) so he could increase his leverage in negotiations....how do those circumstances match up with this situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
None of you really cared about this fight, you just want to use it to try and get at me and you're welcome to do so, but you've got seriously flawed logic.
Can't have it both ways sunshine.
Wonder what Lyle will respond with....;D
The situations aren't comparable princessQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerCan't have it both ways sunshine.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe situations aren't comparable princessQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerCan't have it both ways sunshineQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe situations aren't comparable princessQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIts a legitimate injury and not an "injury" so once again I fail to follow your line of reasoning. Wlad's a professional boxer and sometimes injuries just happen, this injury in no way benefits Wladimir who throughout his career has fought 2-4 times a year every year whether he's held a title or not. In the fight (that never happened) that you guys are referencing a certain someone bailed on the fight with a phony injury because the TV company that did his contract was going bust and he backed out, he also backed out of another fight to sign an easier fight (a title shot vs Valuev) so he could increase his leverage in negotiations....how do those circumstances match up with this situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
None of you really cared about this fight, you just want to use it to try and get at me and you're welcome to do so, but you've got seriously flawed logic.
Can't have it both ways sunshine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOGWbzUM-y8
Woah....didn't see that coming.
At the end of the day we all know Wlad didn't pull out because he was frightened. We also all know that Haye didn't pull out of his fights with the Klitchko's due to an injury. If Haye's guilty of anything it's of being an astute businessman. I don't think he's scared of fighting the Klitchko's, I just don't think he's that confident of beating them. I don't have a clue what goes on at the negotiating table but from what I've read it seems like the Klits have been making (in David's eyes) unreasonable offers. David's now the WBA Heavyweight champion and if the Klits want the belt then the offer on the table needs to reflect that. At the end of the day their all at fault. Perhaps David's being too greedy, maybe the Klits aren't giving David the respect he thinks he deserves. Either way, all 3 are good boxers who have never ducked anybody, and their records back that up! I also feel Lyle is being hypercritical. If you going to claim Haye's ducking the Klits (with no evidence) then you have to expect the same to happen when the roles are reversed. Why's Wlad now not ducking Chisora after doing exactly the same thing Haye did? That's double standards surely...
Or that! ;D
Lyle and Hornfinger, get a room for fucks sake!
Can't have it both ways sunshine.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe situations aren't comparable princessQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerCan't have it both ways sunshine.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe situations aren't comparable princessQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerCan't have it both ways sunshineQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe situations aren't comparable princessQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIts a legitimate injury and not an "injury" so once again I fail to follow your line of reasoning. Wlad's a professional boxer and sometimes injuries just happen, this injury in no way benefits Wladimir who throughout his career has fought 2-4 times a year every year whether he's held a title or not. In the fight (that never happened) that you guys are referencing a certain someone bailed on the fight with a phony injury because the TV company that did his contract was going bust and he backed out, he also backed out of another fight to sign an easier fight (a title shot vs Valuev) so he could increase his leverage in negotiations....how do those circumstances match up with this situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
None of you really cared about this fight, you just want to use it to try and get at me and you're welcome to do so, but you've got seriously flawed logic.
Can't have it both ways sunshine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOGWbzUM-y8
This fight was the clincher for me, had this one been on I would have ordered it as it is Warren will not be getting my hard earned money. ;)
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Originally Posted by 0james0Are you the REAL David Haye?Quote:
Originally Posted by Islington haye maker
No i'm not mate....Why's that??
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Originally Posted by Islington haye makerQuote:
Originally Posted by 0james0Are you the REAL David Haye?Quote:
Originally Posted by Islington haye maker
No i'm not mate....Why's that??
I just had a "feeling". Sometimes pro's grace this place and you never know, you could have been the great man himself. Plus you sounded a little like I'd imagined he would write on a forum like!
I mostly talk shit, so I wouldn't worry. Just a bit of speculation to break you into this place.