Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
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Hhhhmmmm.... Does Sergio deserve a gimmie fight?
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It's not ideal, but I think so. He arguably has had the toughest last five fights of active fighters. Moreover, what are his options? He might as well wait to see what happens with Pirog/Lemiuex/Kirkland/Cotto before jumping up in weight. There is literally isn't anyone around that he can fight. It may be the only option for him.
Back to your suggestion, who has Lemiuex beat to deserve a Martinez fight? Let's wait to see how he does against Rubio.
I agree. He's got a string of decent KO/TKO victories agains gate keepers. I mean, even a prospect has to beat a decent string of steadily rising competition before they deserve a shot at the champ. He's almost there, though. I feel the same way about Pirog who has done less than Lemiuex except for the WBA belt. He's KOed Jacobs. That's it. Besides that he's fought no one.
I get irritated about guys like Chavez Jr. Shit or get off the pot, dude. You're 42-0. Step up and get KOed like a bitch.
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Rantcatrat
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
Hhhhmmmm.... Does Sergio deserve a gimmie fight?
:thinking2:
It's not ideal, but I think so. He arguably has had the toughest last five fights of active fighters. Moreover, what are his options? He might as well wait to see what happens with Pirog/Lemiuex/Kirkland/Cotto before jumping up in weight. There is literally isn't anyone around that he can fight. It may be the only option for him.
Back to your suggestion, who has Lemiuex beat to deserve a Martinez fight? Let's wait to see how he does against Rubio.
I agree. He's got a string of decent KO/TKO victories agains gate keepers. I mean, even a prospect has to beat a decent string of steadily rising competition before they deserve a shot at the champ. He's almost there, though. I feel the same way about Pirog who has done less than Lemiuex except for the WBA belt. He's KOed Jacobs. That's it. Besides that he's fought no one.
I get irritated about guys like Chavez Jr. Shit or get off the pot, dude. You're 42-0. Step up and get KOed like a bitch.
The Chavez Jr. v. Zbik fight is on June 4th. Martinez could take a fight to keep active and then face the winner of that fight. Problem is the winner of that fight ain't all that good. But, a fight with Chavez Jr. is a big money fight, a PPV fight.
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Rantcatrat
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
Hhhhmmmm.... Does Sergio deserve a gimmie fight?
:thinking2:
It's not ideal, but I think so. He arguably has had the toughest last five fights of active fighters. Moreover, what are his options? He might as well wait to see what happens with Pirog/Lemiuex/Kirkland/Cotto before jumping up in weight. There is literally isn't anyone around that he can fight. It may be the only option for him.
Back to your suggestion, who has Lemiuex beat to deserve a Martinez fight? Let's wait to see how he does against Rubio.
I agree. He's got a string of decent KO/TKO victories agains gate keepers. I mean, even a prospect has to beat a decent string of steadily rising competition before they deserve a shot at the champ. He's almost there, though. I feel the same way about Pirog who has done less than Lemiuex except for the WBA belt. He's KOed Jacobs. That's it. Besides that he's fought no one.
I get irritated about guys like Chavez Jr. Shit or get off the pot, dude. You're 42-0. Step up and get KOed like a bitch.
Every time I read something like this, I hurt my neck from nodding in agreement so vigorously. Damn straight!!! Especially the "get KOed like a bitch" part.
;D
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
So apparently this could actually be on the table. It would be a massacre.
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PROVIDENCE (March 17, 2011) – Middleweight contender Peter “The Pride of Providence” Manfredo, Jr. had a ringside seat in MGM Grand Theater at Foxwoods last Saturday night to witness the superlative performance turned in by WBC Emeritus and The Ring 160-pound champion Sergio “Maravilla” Martinez, who dropped previously unbeaten WBO junior welterweight titlist Sergiy “Razor” Dzinziruk five times en route to a major statement-victory by eighth-round knockout.
Manfredo (37-6, 20 KOs), arguably the leading American middleweight challenger, is riding a six-fight win streak since losing to super middleweight Saki Bika in 2008. The star of The Contender, Season One is currently rated No. 7 by the IBF and No. 9 by the WBC.
Now working fulltime as a laborer at the Dunkin’ Donuts Center in Providence, ironically, where he headlined four major shows, Manfredo dreams of fighting Martinez there this summer. The popular Italian-American boxer is like a modern-day Rocky with a twist: Peter’s not breaking legs but he is sweeping floors to provide for his family.
“Martinez is one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world, right up there with Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather,” Manfredo said. “Imagine me fighting him at The Dunk where I headlined shows and now work? That would be straight out of Hollywood! I know fight fans in Providence would give him a royal welcome. He would definitely be a tough fight for me and I’d be an underdog, but I’ve put myself in a challenger’s position the past two years, and I want a shot at the best. Getting a fight against Martinez is what fighters dream about, especially at home, and I’ve worked hard the past two years to get to this point. Hey, this is boxing and nothing’s written in stone; it only takes one shot to change the world. That’s boxing, and maybe I land an old Micky Ward shot to the body, and my life would be changed.
“Opportunities to fight somebody like Martinez don’t come around every day. Now is the right time for me. I’d be honored to get in the ring to fight him. I know I can compete with him. Like (Vinny) Paz says, ‘Fight or die.’ Styles make fights and this would be a very entertaining match-up. I’m a classic boxer-puncher and he’s a very fast, awkward fighter who seems to have found his power in the last few fights. Sergio keeps his hands down and bobs his head. Boxers aren’t taught to do that but he can because he’s so good. Martinez reminds me of Roy Jones. I’ve proven myself and want to get it on with Martinez.”
Manfredo has the proper pedigree, as an amateur and pro, in addition to possibly having a strength advantage versus Martinez, who has moved-up from junior middleweight, while Manfredo dropped down from 168. Three of Manfredo’s six career losses have been against much larger super middleweights – Joe Calzaghe in their WBO title fight, former world champ Jeff Lacy, and Bika.
During his 10 ½ year career, Manfredo has defeated world champion Frankie Randall, The Contender 2 winner Grady Brewer, previously unbeaten prospect Sherwin Davis, world title challengers Scott Pemberton and Alfonso Gomez, and present WBA No. 6 rated light heavyweight Joey Spina.
“I have valuable experience against great champions like Martinez,” Manfredo added. “I went through the whole thing with Calzaghe and learned a valuable lesson. I won’t make those mistakes again. I’m experienced fighting super middleweights, who were too big for me, but I’m a real middleweight. I’ll go for broke against Martinez, if given the opportunity, because I have nothing to lose and everything to gain.”
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
It is a complete waste of time fighting Manfredo at this point. Martinez has about 3 fights left at the max, to waste 6 months of it on Manfredo would be a really big shame. I really want to see Martinez to finish his career with a flourish of big fights, he has had plenty of gimme's earlier on in his career. If he is serious about wanting to be the best PFP then he just can't fight someone like Manfredo.
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It is a complete waste of time fighting Manfredo at this point. Martinez has about 3 fights left at the max, to waste 6 months of it on Manfredo would be a really big shame. I really want to see Martinez to finish his career with a flourish of big fights, he has had plenty of gimme's earlier on in his career. If he is serious about wanting to be the best PFP then he just can't fight someone like Manfredo.
I agree. He should go a different route. Manfredo has climbed back in the rankings with his 6 fight win streak but he didn't look all that good his last outing.
Martinez should really go after the winner of Zbik/Chavez Jr. He can grab the WBC strap back, (not that it matters. People know who the champ is) whilst putting an undefeated fighter down with a name that will sell tickets. It's probably the smartest fight right now. If they could haul Surm's ass out of moth balls, I'd like that one too but they won't.:-\
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
Yes I think at Martinez's age, a Manfredo fight would just be pointless. If he were a bit younger, I'd have no problem with him taking a gimme fight as he's had arguably the toughest run of fights in the sport, but realistically he only has a small number of fights left and he shouldn't be wasting them. I'd like him to fight Sturm, but I really can't see that happening unless he goes to Germany to do it (unlikely).
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
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Yes I think at Martinez's age, a Manfredo fight would just be pointless. If he were a bit younger, I'd have no problem with him taking a gimme fight as he's had arguably the toughest run of fights in the sport, but realistically he only has a small number of fights left and he shouldn't be wasting them. I'd like him to fight Sturm, but I really can't see that happening unless he goes to Germany to do it (unlikely).
And let's be honest, Sturm isn't fighting Martinez even in Germany. He won't fight Golovkin ffs.
Manfredo would be a waste of time unless it was a gimme fight in preparation for a monster fight like against Mayweather or Cotto.
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
I like both suggestions. Sturm would be a very good opponent and though I despise Chavez Jr. I can see how it would make some sense, certainly a lot more sense than Manfredo. Undefeated and selling on the back of a family brand makes a lot more sense than Manfredo who has never been particularly good. Sturm is a higher pedigree, but as has been pointed out, he doesn't travel. Unless it's a 2am job, it probably isn't going to happen. Plus Martinez will argue that he shouldn't be needing to make sacrifices now that he is top of the heap and I kind of agree with that too.
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
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Yes I think at Martinez's age, a Manfredo fight would just be pointless. If he were a bit younger, I'd have no problem with him taking a gimme fight as he's had arguably the toughest run of fights in the sport, but realistically he only has a small number of fights left and he shouldn't be wasting them. I'd like him to fight Sturm, but I really can't see that happening unless he goes to Germany to do it (unlikely).
And let's be honest, Sturm isn't fighting Martinez even in Germany. He won't fight Golovkin ffs.
Manfredo would be a waste of time unless it was a gimme fight in preparation for a monster fight like against Mayweather or Cotto.
Indeed. It's true, I didn't really think about a Sturm fight on the other end. Sturm wouldn't fight him anyway. Martinez is a complete animal right now. He looks VERY good. Fighting a B level fighter with nothing of note lined up would just waste time.
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
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Rantcatrat
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Cressa121
Yes I think at Martinez's age, a Manfredo fight would just be pointless. If he were a bit younger, I'd have no problem with him taking a gimme fight as he's had arguably the toughest run of fights in the sport, but realistically he only has a small number of fights left and he shouldn't be wasting them. I'd like him to fight Sturm, but I really can't see that happening unless he goes to Germany to do it (unlikely).
And let's be honest, Sturm isn't fighting Martinez even in Germany. He won't fight Golovkin ffs.
Manfredo would be a waste of time unless it was a gimme fight in preparation for a monster fight like against Mayweather or Cotto.
That's true. Its also the problem, aside from there being a lack of big fights for Martinez, would anyone that would qualify for such a fight want any of him? Chavez Jr would make sense but I can't see them putting him in with Martinez. His record has been very carefully constructed, no way they'll throw him in with Martinez after Zbik. Cotto will probably end up fighting Margarito again, Sturm as you've said would be unlikely to want any of him. There really aren't too many good, solid fights out there. Mayweather's spoke about the possibility, but again I can't see him taking it, if he even fights again that is.
I'd rather not see Martinez go up to 168, I feel 160 is an ideal weight for him and he'd be significantly smaller than the other fighters up there. Abraham maybe? He wants to come back to 160 after Ward, but his stock has fallen massively and it's likely to fall further if Ward hands out the one-sided beating many expect him to. I'm struggling to think of too many viable opponents that would give him a "big" fight :-\
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
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Rantcatrat
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Cressa121
Yes I think at Martinez's age, a Manfredo fight would just be pointless. If he were a bit younger, I'd have no problem with him taking a gimme fight as he's had arguably the toughest run of fights in the sport, but realistically he only has a small number of fights left and he shouldn't be wasting them. I'd like him to fight Sturm, but I really can't see that happening unless he goes to Germany to do it (unlikely).
And let's be honest, Sturm isn't fighting Martinez even in Germany. He won't fight Golovkin ffs.
Manfredo would be a waste of time unless it was a gimme fight in preparation for a monster fight like against Mayweather or Cotto.
That's true. Its also the problem, aside from there being a lack of big fights for Martinez, would anyone that would qualify for such a fight want any of him? Chavez Jr would make sense but I can't see them putting him in with Martinez. His record has been very carefully constructed, no way they'll throw him in with Martinez after Zbik. Cotto will probably end up fighting Margarito again, Sturm as you've said would be unlikely to want any of him. There really aren't too many good, solid fights out there. Mayweather's spoke about the possibility, but again I can't see him taking it, if he even fights again that is.
I'd rather not see Martinez go up to 168, I feel 160 is an ideal weight for him and he'd be significantly smaller than the other fighters up there. Abraham maybe? He wants to come back to 160 after Ward, but his stock has fallen massively and it's likely to fall further if Ward hands out the one-sided beating many expect him to. I'm struggling to think of too many viable opponents that would give him a "big" fight :-\
Agreeda nd for argument's sake, even if a fight with Cotto were to be made and the Tony fight didn't exist, Cotto isn't going to 160 and Martinez won't make it to 154 anymore. He's been really heavy inbetween bouts and 154 is a stretch at this point. Maybe a catchweight...
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
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Cressa121
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Rantcatrat
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Cressa121
Yes I think at Martinez's age, a Manfredo fight would just be pointless. If he were a bit younger, I'd have no problem with him taking a gimme fight as he's had arguably the toughest run of fights in the sport, but realistically he only has a small number of fights left and he shouldn't be wasting them. I'd like him to fight Sturm, but I really can't see that happening unless he goes to Germany to do it (unlikely).
And let's be honest, Sturm isn't fighting Martinez even in Germany. He won't fight Golovkin ffs.
Manfredo would be a waste of time unless it was a gimme fight in preparation for a monster fight like against Mayweather or Cotto.
That's true. Its also the problem, aside from there being a lack of big fights for Martinez, would anyone that would qualify for such a fight want any of him? Chavez Jr would make sense but I can't see them putting him in with Martinez. His record has been very carefully constructed, no way they'll throw him in with Martinez after Zbik. Cotto will probably end up fighting Margarito again, Sturm as you've said would be unlikely to want any of him. There really aren't too many good, solid fights out there. Mayweather's spoke about the possibility, but again I can't see him taking it, if he even fights again that is.
I'd rather not see Martinez go up to 168, I feel 160 is an ideal weight for him and he'd be significantly smaller than the other fighters up there. Abraham maybe? He wants to come back to 160 after Ward, but his stock has fallen massively and it's likely to fall further if Ward hands out the one-sided beating many expect him to. I'm struggling to think of too many viable opponents that would give him a "big" fight :-\
The only scenario that I could see TR putting Chavez Jr. in with Sergio Martinez was if the money was just so good that they couldn't say no. Say, for example, it would be Chavez Jr.'s biggest pay day and TR calculated he'd never get another opportunity for a pay day like that again. Anyway, Chavez Jr. Needs to get by Zbik first, which he may not do.
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
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Out of those Angulo is the most interesting for me. So it seems he wants to fight twice more this year. In that sense I can understand having an easier fight in the meantime, but I would prefer it if he would avoid a total gimme like Manfredo. That's just a joke matchup really.
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
Cant see Angulo with Visa probs. He's due a gimme, and for what Manfredo lacks is talent he makes up for in charisma and 'story'. It'll be a showcase in his hometown, solid last payday after blowing earnings and a huge push for Martinez. Really no losers...except fans if they put this commercial on PPV or pay channel ?
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Cant see Angulo with Visa probs. He's due a gimme, and for what Manfredo lacks is talent he makes up for in charisma and 'story'. It'll be a showcase in his hometown, solid last payday after blowing earnings and a huge push for Martinez. Really no losers...except fans if they put this commercial on PPV or pay channel ?
I find it hard to believe that a premium channel would even pic up a Manfredo bout.
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Cant see Angulo with Visa probs. He's due a gimme, and for what Manfredo lacks is talent he makes up for in charisma and 'story'. It'll be a showcase in his hometown, solid last payday after blowing earnings and a huge push for Martinez. Really no losers...except fans if they put this commercial on PPV or pay channel ?
I find it hard to believe that a premium channel would even pic up a Manfredo bout.
How'd you enjoy Alvarez vs Hatton ?
Re: Who does Sergio Martinez fight next?
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Spicoli
Cant see Angulo with Visa probs. He's due a gimme, and for what Manfredo lacks is talent he makes up for in charisma and 'story'. It'll be a showcase in his hometown, solid last payday after blowing earnings and a huge push for Martinez. Really no losers...except fans if they put this commercial on PPV or pay channel ?
I find it hard to believe that a premium channel would even pic up a Manfredo bout.
How'd you enjoy Alvarez vs Hatton ?
I enjoyed it. Matthew is a game character but everyone knew he was a lamb for the slaughter. Alvarez has some learning to do as well. I really thought Alvarez was going to stop him.
