He's old, slow to pull the trigger and agree with rest....but I'll never believe Mosley comes into a fight to dog it and not train and try to win, least of all to a Mora.Quote:
Originally Posted by DogTheBountyHunter
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He's old, slow to pull the trigger and agree with rest....but I'll never believe Mosley comes into a fight to dog it and not train and try to win, least of all to a Mora.Quote:
Originally Posted by DogTheBountyHunter
I'll say it, I think Shane might win. Unless MAnny decides to out box him which he could do I have never witnessed Shane get out slugged by any one he is fast enough and hits harder than anyone at the weight a slugfest with him is a silly idea.
He's better than any one Pac has fought since moving up in weight, Cotto was ruined by Marg, Marg ruined by Mosley, Hatton not that good, Oscar shot and Clottey is terrible these were all good wins for the much smaller Pacman but this is his hardest fight since moving up Shane is faster than any of the big fighters Pac has fought, has a better chin and hits harder.
I give mayweather a lot of credit for this win I will also give Pac a lot of credit if he gets the win.
I think ability to knock Pac flat on his a$$, I can't help but feel he'll be the toughest opponent in that respect...
But I also have a feeling Pac is going to be using him for a mobile punching bag for at least 6 rounds..
Shane will cause Pac Man problems because he is experienced enough to that and may even land the round house right hand that he caught Floyd with. However I dfo not think he is busy, and probably yoing enough to maintain it and will do well to survive to see the final bell.
This fight will demonstrate again why boxing fans love Pacquiao and not Mayweather. Unlike the Mosley-mayweather snoozefest, a fight will be waged, punches will be thrown, big shots will be landed, chins tested. We will pay our money because we can depend on Paquiao to give us our money's worth.
I don't understand these posts that claim Naz Richardson will have an impact. Naz seems to be a good trainer and I like him but Mosley does not appear to be coachable.
Prime for prime at 135, that would be interesting ;) (even if Pac did pretty much skip that weight class)
If you replace the word "is" with the word "was". I agree with all the pro Mosley comments.
If you've watched any of Shanes last 2 fights you'll know he has no real chance.
If it was Mora vs Pac we wouldn't even be having a conversation.
The thing is, I have no doubt that Mosley knows how to beat Pacquiao and that Richardson knows the plan to take him out. It's the fact that none of us know if Shane can follow through with that kind of performance consistently. Then again, not many expected Erik Morales to outslug Maidana. Morales didn't have to put on a spectacular performance, what he did was found the holes in Maidana's game and exploited them every chance he got, and conserved his energy the rest of the times. This is something Mosley should do. Mosley should take advantage of the holes in Manny's game and invest in the body early. Problem is, Shane has never been one to stick to a gameplan, he is more one that fights with all emotion, he can follow a gameplan for a round or so, but once he gets hit his fighter instinct gets the better of him. The last fight he ever followed the gameplan fully in was Margarito, but Margarito's wide looping shots and height didn't offer Mosley any issues with pressure. Against Pacquiao it's a whole different kind of monster. What I do not want this fight to turn into is a glorified sparring session where Mosley concedes the fight halfway through and just takes punishment.
But holes in Pacquiao's game have been shown, and they have been getting more and more apparently because Pacquiao IS slowing down. All these impressive performances, he is getting hit a lot more than he used to over the last few years when he worked on his boxing and in and out, he is losing some craft and getting hit more, so this is gonna be the best Pacquiao Mosley has a chance of beating at this stage. When Freddie says "I've seen your last two fights" to Shane, Mosley should say "and I've seen his last three" .
Maybe ........ now that you clarified it. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogXaduboxer, what I've should have said was the version of Mosley 5 or 6 years against this version of Manny. You happy? I'm pretty sure others know what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerNo, it's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
5 or 6 years ago, this would have been a horrific mismatch in favor of Mosley. Manny was in the 130 lb weight division while Shane was in 154.
It would also be considered a mismatch just 2 years ago in Mosley's favor when he just beat Margarito and was in 147 while Manny was in 140.
BTW, I'm not Xadu but this isn't the first time I heard that.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Comedy central. Manny never fought outside of the weakest title holder and Shane was 34 and 0 with 32 ko's at lightweight.
135 Shane destroys him.
Diaz was weak no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Comedy central. Manny never fought outside of the weakest title holder and Shane was 34 and 0 with 32 ko's at lightweight.
135 Shane destroys him.
But destroy Pacquiao as in dominate or by knockout? Not that version of Pac against Mosley at LW. While 34-0 was impressive for Shane but take a close look at his LW reign. Beating guys like Phillip Holiday, John John Molina, Jesse James Leija and Golden Johnson is one thing beating Pacquiao at LW is another. It would have been a great competitive fight that probably ends up being close on the cards would be my guess, but Shane dominating a Pacman that was pretty much complete at that stage? I don't see it.
But my friend, Mora is Big (Junior Middle Weight), Pacman is not. Mora runs, Pacman comes.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
Mosley is strong, Pacman is not against Super welterweight like Margarito and Mosley.
This is what they could analytical conversation.
MOra's defensive fighter, Pacman's offensive pug.
Shane could not get backpedaling Mora, Shane would gobble your steamrolling Pacman