I don't think there is one. But that's everyone else's fault, not Wlad's right?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Nah, he's dominated the whole division... I'm just looking for that big fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui
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I don't think there is one. But that's everyone else's fault, not Wlad's right?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBNah, he's dominated the whole division... I'm just looking for that big fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui
Isn't he Ukranian?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBYou don't see the irony that the only guy you can get behind is a khazak?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
If Helenius gets a win over a top ranked fighter he's due a shot and that's a good fight. Cris Arreola is looking better than ever right now and if he continues he'd make a good fight vs Wlad. Boytsov is a bit small to stir up much trouble...Dimitrenko may soon be on the radar. As for Povetkin, I swear they need to put him on milk cartons, where the fuck has he been and what has he been doing????Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiI don't think there is one. But that's everyone else's fault, not Wlad's right?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBNah, he's dominated the whole division... I'm just looking for that big fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui
What Wlad is missing is that guy that everyone thinks can beat him...some people will say its this upcoming fight, I don't know, we'll see.
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Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiIsn't he Ukranian?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBYou don't see the irony that the only guy you can get behind is a khazak?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
NOOOooooooo hes a big gay russian
Povetkin will wind up fighting Chagaev for the regular WBA once Wlad or David become their Super Champion.
No, not natively.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiIsn't he Ukranian?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBYou don't see the irony that the only guy you can get behind is a khazak?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Learn something new every day. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBNo, not natively.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiIsn't he Ukranian?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBYou don't see the irony that the only guy you can get behind is a khazak?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
2005 version of Peter, Chagaev, or Tony Thompson, are all better than any HW Haye has faced.
Am I the only one that sticks up for haye ? His record at HW is not brilliant but he's only had a handfull of fights, a couple of those was to adjust to the HW division , then he boxed for a world title , then he defended it against the number 1 contender ( because he had to ) & then why he was waiting for klit to sort his life out he chose to have a fight in witch his home fans would appreciate knowing it's an easy nights work & he earns a fuck load of cash ( I'm positive that given the chance anyone in their right mind would love an easy nights work for a big reward) but now his next fight is against the supposed best. He could easily fuck about like klit has done for years boxing fat twats But he's not .
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Originally Posted by Rocky11
naa mate your not the only one, but a lot of people dont like the way haye conducts himself and it affects their judgement
A lot of people used to support him and stick up for him, but they got tired of his act. Calling out a Klitschko, making an excuse, and fighting a lesser opponent. That spread out over 2 years soured many of people that were at one point willing to support him.
Of course I never liked the guy, but whatever, the point is now we're finally (hopefully) going to see "the big fight" and that's good for all fans.
What fantastically blinkered view of things you have.
I agree with hornfinger . He's so convinced that haye has been dodging klit its unbelievable .
How is it blinkered? Ask around, I'm certain that around the forum you can find a few posters who have switched who they are pulling for based on the reasoning I provided in my last post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
It doesn't exactly take a genius to figure out that dodging 2 signed contracts is a kind of signal that the guy had no interests whatsoever in fighting the 2K.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky11
..and yet he is fighting Wlad next week. ???
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
my point isnt whether haye deserves the hate or not
my point is certain people (not wanting to point the finger at anyone) let hayes "attitude" affect their judgement when debating the posibilities in this fight :)
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Originally Posted by NamelessIt doesn't exactly take a genius to figure out that dodging 2 signed contracts is a kind of signal that the guy had no interests whatsoever in fighting the 2K.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky11
it could also be argued that the klit has dodged more than 2 contracts offered by hayeQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
lyles response to this will include the following words "haye pulled out" and "Audley Harrison" and "John Ruiz"
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Exactly. If Haye was ducking Wlad, he's done a shit job of it really.
And my reply to that is derek chisora.Quote:
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Originally Posted by NamelessIt doesn't exactly take a genius to figure out that dodging 2 signed contracts is a kind of signal that the guy had no interests whatsoever in fighting the 2K.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky11
it could also be argued that the klit has dodged more than 2 contracts offered by hayeQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
lyles response to this will include the following words "haye pulled out" and "Audley Harrison" and "John Ruiz"
And my reply to that is that he was undefeated and WILLING to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerAnd my reply to that is derek chisora.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessIt doesn't exactly take a genius to figure out that dodging 2 signed contracts is a kind of signal that the guy had no interests whatsoever in fighting the 2K.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky11
it could also be argued that the klit has dodged more than 2 contracts offered by hayeQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
lyles response to this will include the following words "haye pulled out" and "Audley Harrison" and "John Ruiz"
Riddle me this fellas: How will you stand up and defend a guy whose major complaint was having options on his next couple fights and then the guy goes and on to fight Valuev and allows Sauerland (the WORST promoter) to sink his claws in him.
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Originally Posted by El KabongAnd my reply to that is that he was undefeated and WILLING to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerAnd my reply to that is derek chisora.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessIt doesn't exactly take a genius to figure out that dodging 2 signed .contracts is a kind of signal that the guy had no interests whatsoever in fighting the 2K.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky11
it could also be argued that the klit has dodged more than 2 contracts offered by hayeQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
lyles response to this will include the following words "haye pulled out" and "Audley Harrison" and "John Ruiz"
Riddle me this fellas: How will you stand up and defend a guy whose major complaint was having options on his next couple fights and then the guy goes and on to fight Valuev and allows Sauerland (the WORST promoter) to sink his claws in him.
Wlad's best win was smashing Hayden Panatierre.
David... Save the cheerleader, save the world!!!
Yes David Haye is unwilling to fight Wladmir and that's why they're scheduled to fight next weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongAnd my reply to that is that he was undefeated and WILLING to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerAnd my reply to that is derek chisora.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessIt doesn't exactly take a genius to figure out that dodging 2 signed contracts is a kind of signal that the guy had no interests whatsoever in fighting the 2K.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky11
it could also be argued that the klit has dodged more than 2 contracts offered by hayeQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
lyles response to this will include the following words "haye pulled out" and "Audley Harrison" and "John Ruiz"
Riddle me this fellas: How will you stand up and defend a guy whose major complaint was having options on his next couple fights and then the guy goes and on to fight Valuev and allows Sauerland (the WORST promoter) to sink his claws in him.
Derek Chisora after all of 13 wins is the only undefeated heavyweight out there that would have taken that payday is he?
You can't defend derek chisora. It's not possible. I'm british I've seen him fight. You can't defend him.
Sure he's willing to fight now because he's preparing to retire so he doesn't have to keep up this whole charade of "I'm an exciting fighter and a breath of fresh air to the heavyweight division" bull crap.
Wlad was going to have a stay busy fight what's wrong with that? Would you rather the champion sit on his ass and wait for challenges??? Oh wait, I forgot who you're supporting of course you would.
I'd rather so called boxing fans stop having double standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Your wlad blinkers really are quite incredible.
I would rather they stop having double standards too....no I admit it, Monte Barrett is a dangerous fighter :vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerI'd rather so called boxing fans stop having double standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Your wlad blinkers really are quite incredible.
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Originally Posted by El KabongI would rather they stop having double standards too....no I admit it, Monte Barrett is a dangerous fighter :vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerI'd rather so called boxing fans stop having double standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Your wlad blinkers really are quite incredible.
As dangerous as derek chisora?
Thanks for proving my point buddy.
Joining this one late too and not read the whole thread but for me Wlad's best win was that one when he fought cautiously behind his left jab for 7-8 rounds and then started using his right eventually stopping the guy late on. Or was it a UD ?
Can't remember which fight that was - anyone help me out here ??
Well we're not sure about Chisora's ceiling as a fighter yet so I would say Chisora is more dangerous than Barrett.Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI would rather they stop having double standards too....no I admit it, Monte Barrett is a dangerous fighter :vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerI'd rather so called boxing fans stop having double standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Your wlad blinkers really are quite incredible.
As dangerous as derek chisora?
Thanks for proving my point buddy.
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Originally Posted by El KabongWell we're not sure about Chisora's ceiling as a fighter yet so I would say Chisora is more dangerous than Barrett.Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI would rather they stop having double standards too....no I admit it, Monte Barrett is a dangerous fighter :vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerI'd rather so called boxing fans stop having double standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Your wlad blinkers really are quite incredible.
As dangerous as derek chisora?
Thanks for proving my point buddy.
I've heard it all now that's beyond hysterical. I've honestly just pissed in my pants.
Chisora is undefeated and is 27 years old...Monte Barrett is 40 and has lost 9 fights.
Why are you shocked at me giving the edge to Chisora???
I've seen chisora box. He ain't going to amount to jack shit. There's a fair few domestic fighters that will do him pretty easily.
Chisora is the guy that bit a journeyman's ear because he wasn't having things his own way. nuff said.
I'm not giving either the edge they're both poor oponants. Barret was a fight used for haye to get used to being in with heavyweights, wlad was trying to pass chisora off as a legit contender.
It was an optional defense for Wlad and one that didn't even fucking happen so why keep harping on about it?
Optional, so wlad chose him rather than ANYONE else.
Why do you keep harping on about 'the WBA holder'?
He had wanted to fight Povetkin but that didn't happen thanks to Teddy Atlas not thinking his fighter was ready.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
Who else was available? And it was going to be a marketing move for this fight you know, have Wlad fight a Brit and then have this fight.
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Originally Posted by El KabongHe had wanted to fight Povetkin but that didn't happen thanks to Teddy Atlas not thinking his fighter was ready.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
Who else was available? And it was going to be a marketing move for this fight you know, have Wlad fight a Brit and then have this fight.
fuckin el man
they could of put any combination of HWs in front of haye since he moved up and you would winge about them
wlad aint fought anyone recently either
so its even
honestly man, tell the truth, have you ever had a girlfriend?
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Originally Posted by El KabongHe had wanted to fight Povetkin but that didn't happen thanks to Teddy Atlas not thinking his fighter was ready.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
Who else was available? And it was going to be a marketing move for this fight you know, have Wlad fight a Brit and then have this fight.
Oh it was a marketing move for this fight? 2 seconds ago you said haye didn't want the fight? So what was the point marketing for a fight that wasn't going to happen?
Wlad has fought VERY decent competition compared to Haye. Peter, Chagaev, Chambers, Thompson. Haye really hasn't fought or beaten anyone. His biggest name is someone that an ancient Holyfield beat even more easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHe had wanted to fight Povetkin but that didn't happen thanks to Teddy Atlas not thinking his fighter was ready.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
Who else was available? And it was going to be a marketing move for this fight you know, have Wlad fight a Brit and then have this fight.
fuckin el man
they could of put any combination of HWs in front of haye since he moved up and you would winge about them
wlad aint fought anyone recently either
so its even
honestly man, tell the truth, have you ever had a girlfriend?
Haye is the one who is really in untested waters and his lack of decent opposition is going to be telling.
And is your boyfriend fit? :-\